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Reply to "Book of Mark... Fiction?"

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
I don't care what anyone believes. I don't care what silliness anyone says they believe. I only care how a person behaves. Unfortunately, most religious people behave in ways prescribed my their "Holy" books.

Actually the Scriptures (or the one Holy Book for Christians as you want to point to books) is but one way how Christians get instruction from God or that God communicates with those who are His.  It is God's Holy Spirit which lives within each Christian's body along with their inner created spirit that leads Christians in their daily lives as well as reveals the truth in Scripture and what God's specific message is to each Christian.  Christians being human, living in the flesh, are capable of any sin or doing anything that anyone else is including being discourteous but what a Christian is doing is reflection of whether they are living in the Spirit or Living in the Flesh.  This duality of life is described and highlighted in Romans 8 by Paul.

 

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
At this point in my life, I'm trying to make christians understand atheists are as good as they are and have just as many rights as they do. I want to see the silly laws they create eliminated. I'm fought against religious prohibitions for decades. Thanks to Wal Mart we no longer have Sunday Blue Laws in the Shoals.

Not all atheist behave in the same way or have the same attitudes or behavior toward people.  This forum is ripe with evidence of how Christians who have attempted to discuss their beliefs get ridiculed and demeaned all the time.  Often when we start discussing a topic and mention the Bible we are force fed atheistic opinions about how false our Bible (Holy Book) is and how dumb we are to believe in it, how it's filled with fables.  Pardon me but there is plenty of examples of atheistic forced preaching, thumping, their opinions at us without us asking for that and all in a forum where we come to discuss it because it is titled a Religion forum so that's where any rational, respectful, person would assume you would find such being discussed.  As Americans no one is trying to say you don't have the same rights as we do but over the years our own rights to worship as we would are being infringed upon and taken away.  I'm not talking about blue laws either as I don't agree with them and I am a Christian.   What many of us Christians are speaking up against is the disrespectful actions of some of your fellow atheist who are apparently here only to agitate, demean anyone who claims to be Christian, heckle, and ridicule.  Look at the majority of post made where this is happening.  There isn't any advancement of atheist doctrines or reasons why atheist belief is superior but the attack is personal against the Christian believer, the attack is against the Bible, a book we consider Holy the word of God and our lunacy for believing in it, there is no debate or dialog just demeaning ridicule and then running back to claim you want debate, discussion.  Some of you may but evidence (a word many of you like to use so often) indicates it's just a demeaning series of heckling going on so as to prevent any of us from actually coming here to discuss our beliefs, among others who may either believe likewise or are interested in discussing it.  If the Religion forum is not the place to do that then where is, and what is the Religion forum for?

 

Originally Posted by SeniorCoffee:
It is because of the willing ignorance promoted by religion that this country is in such rapid decline.

Ignorance ( as in the following definition: "lack of knowledge or information")  You, and others come here feeling you have all the right answers.  We are either deluded or somehow confused about what we believe.  You fully believe there is no valid basis to base our beliefs on because there is no God.  Well there is no God because as far as your experience and as far as you know you have never met or experienced God so therefore God must not exist.  Problem is that God is not physical or restrained by Physical properties.  God is Spirit and His Holy Spirit is how God communicates with those that are HIS.  God gives the Holy Spirit, His Holy Spirit, to dwell/live within our physical bodies along with our inner created inner spirit and that is something so profound, so magnanimous that it profoundly changes and alters the Christians life and existence.   Other than to verbally say so or testify to what happened we cannot prove it to you.  It isn't proof until it happens to the Christian.  It never will happen to an atheist or non-believer for it cannot.

1 Corinthians 1:18-19 (CEV)
{18} The message about the cross doesn't make any sense to lost people. But for those of us who are being saved, it is God's power at work.
{19} As God says in the Scriptures, "I will destroy the wisdom of all who claim to be wise. I will confuse those who think they know so much."

Of course it appears as we are crazy or deranged to you.  Unless you have come to a relationship with God you know not God.  Still though you, and others, go on acting as if you are without any possible fallacy or error.  God cannot exist because I don't see Him, I don't feel Him, He isn't alive or real to me therefore He doesn't exist.

 

I hate to break it to you but there are millions of others, including myself, who say He does exist, He does live, He is real and He dwells within my physical body today manifesting Himself and guiding me daily, every second.  I often live in the flesh and do not abide by the Spirit's leadership but when I do I pay the price in a loss of the fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-25), Love, Joy, Peace, Happiness, Gentleness etc. 

 

What is frustrating to many Christians is being told we don't know what we are talking about, we aren't really feeling and experiencing what we know we are and worse suffering ridicule from those others who make those accusations all the time because they don't experience what we are because they made their decision and are only experiencing the results of their own decision.  God isn't real to them because they have shut God out, they deny and reject God so how can one expect to know and experience God once they have willingly rejected Him.  No, God IS REAL, God IS ALIVE.

 

Remember it was Christian principals that our Country was founded upon and, for the most part, Religious and Christian people you owe your freedoms to and that set the standards for this Country.  Religion is not the reason for the decline but the loss of morals in Godless people who lose respect for their fellow person as a specially unique creation of God, it is the loss of respect for human life as something specially created by God but rather thought of as an accident and no more special than a tree or an insect scurrying across the floor.  That is what is precipitating the decline and will continue to do so as the nation removes itself from God.  We are and have never been a theocracy nor should we be but as our former leaders declared and were proud to pronounce to the world "IN GOD WE TRUST".  As we lose that we lose the blessings of a very REAL and LIVE GOD and that results in noticeable decline.  That's my opinion.


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