quote:Originally posted by Renegade Nation:quote:Originally posted by RAN:quote:
"Consider the following four countries: Cuba, China, North Korea, and Vietnam.
Wouldn't everyone concede that all four of those countries have socialist systems?"
You then do not concede that Cuba, China, North Korea, etc. have socialist systems?
No, I would not categorize the four states you listed as Socialist.
Cuba, Vietnam, and China are communist regimes or lean in that direction. Communism is a system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single party holds power. Usaually state controls are imposed, private ownership and capital are eliminated. The goal is to progress to a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared (i.e., a classless society)
North Korea is ruled by one individual and his minions, not a collection of individuals as in communism, socialism, democracies, etc. Therefore, I would categorize North Korea as a totalitarian regime, not socialist.
So once again, to reiterate your understanding of the general term of a "socialist" system...the system of those countries and certain policies of this country do not meet that criteria?
Generally a system of collective or government management of economic activity...that has a collective nature, that is at odds with private property rights...the establishment of central planning in place of competition...
These countries and certain policies of this country do not meet these requirements?
You are contending THAT is your understanding?
What point in the previous post do you not understsand. The countries you listed, by definition and structure, are not considered socialist systems by the folks who study and write about such things. I suggest you check out a book, Social Governments 101