Hi Vic,quote: Originally Posted by INVICTUS:A common misconceptions about religion and scripture -- would be the belief that scripture trumps the religion. What's most important, the belief or the scripture???
What is most important is a "saving RELATIONSHIP" with Jesus Christ. Religion is what Christ was against with the Pharisees; since they were into rituals, traditions, and liturgical mumbo-jumbo -- which pretty clearly defines a "religion" and well defines the Roman Catholic church.
Jesus wasn't against religion because of the Pharisees but the ways of the
Pharisees. Tell me, does the Old Testament contain the books of the
Pharisees?
You ask any Christian believer and he/she will tell you that we do not have a religion; we have a personal "relationship" with Jesus Christ.
Or a belief in the Holy Trinity, or a relationship with the Father. You've made
me ashamed to call myself Christian but I do have a Religion and it's name
is Christian.
And I do have a Christian Church and it's name is Catholic. Jesus created my
Church and promised it will never fall. He promised to watch over it until he
returns to retake it. As written in the book of the Church, the Bible. The
Bible isn't the church
You ask any Christian believer and he/she will tell you that
Only ignorance would maintain speaking for any and all Christians.
A common misconceptions about religion and scripture -- would be
the belief that scripture trumps the religion. What's most important,
the belief or the scripture???
And, of course, that is the downfall of the Roman Catholic religion; it is a religion -- where your relationship is with the man-made church organization -- and not with Christ Himself.
Who's church is man made? The Catholic creation by Jesus as stated in
the Bible, or the one martin luther started a few hundred years ago. The
one with the new bible he stole in part from the Catholic Church.
In your religion, the church, with traditions, sacraments, rituals, etc. -- is supposed to offer salvation.
You believe that the physical, material church offers salvation. Your church is just that, an organization!
My Jesus Christ created organization was the first to teach the only
salvation is through Jesus with the Father and Holy Spirit.
We KNOW that the church is not an organization; but it is, in reality, all Christian believers worldwide. The church is the body of believers -- not a rich Vatican organization in Rome.
The newly organization of Protestants have more money than Catholics.
You say, "A common misconceptions about religion and scripture -- would be the belief that scripture trumps the religion."
First, there is no "religion and Scripture" -- for Scripture denies religions, with all their traditions, rituals, and fancy garments and robes.
If there were No Christian religion there would be No scripture.
Scripture defines and elaborates upon the SAVING RELATIONSHIP between Jesus Christ and ALL who will, by grace, through faith -- PLUS NOTHING ELSE, believe and receive His gift of eternal life.
Before Jesus walked the earth or scripture we had a saving relationship
with God
If you want salvation, you need to get out of religion --
A fool and a non existent free ticket = no salvation.
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