quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:quote:Originally posted by tcf531:
ONE OF THE WORST????? He was the absolute worst, period. During his term in office our country was attacked on OUR soil, He half-@**ed attatcked our attackers but invaded an entirely different country, he increased taxes on the poor and middle class while bringing the taxes on the rich down to almost nothing, he deregulated businesses, and sent our country spiralling into economic turmoil. A turmoil that without Obamas initiatives (according to ALL top economists, left wing and right wing)would be much worse.
The only reason to miss him would be the comic relief of his idiocy.
And how many attacks have we had since our new king came into power? Does Arkansas, Ft. Hood, and Detroit ring a bell? Please explain or provide references where he "increased taxes on the poor and middle class while bringing the taxes on the rich down to almost nothing". Please explain why "deregulating businessess" is a bad thing. Please provide references where "ALL the top economists" say the economy would be "much worse" without the Obama/Bush initiatives. I'm not taking up for Bush, he made plenty of mistakes but you haven't listed any of them.
Lets start woth "why is deregulating nusinesses a bad thing"
If you give businesses an opportunity to mistreat their employees, they will. If businesses are allowed to rape the enviroment, they will. That is the greed of business and the "best" decision business wise. The only way for anyone to get fair pay and treatment is through some type of regulation.
Ft. Hood, Arkansas and Detroit: The first two are lone gunmen, that is something that is impossible to stop as long as we keep our 2nd ammendment rights. Just like the child in Huntsville shooting the other child the other day. The underwear bomber was a different story and could have been very bad. Nowhere near as bad as 9/11, but bad. The only thing that saved that flight was the ineptness of the bomber and his organization.
** side notes: I prefer we keep our 2nd ammendment rights and have the occasional random shootings.
**side notes: I think its hilarious that that guy blew his junk off and is headed to prison, he will definitely be the she in that cell
I was wrong on the Bush tax increases on the poor and middle class and i apologize for that . He actually lowered the average taxes of people earning less than $100K/yr by just under $100 per yr. BUT, he he did lower the taxes on the rich by an average of $500k per year.
Economists:
Mark Zandi, Cheif economist for Moody and former advisor to John McCain:" I think it is a reasonably designed package"
Joeseph Stiglitz, Nobel prize in Economic Science and Cheif Economist of the world bank: "It's the only thing that can be done"
Paul Krugman,Nobel prize in economic science and professor of economics at princeton and the london school of economics: CRITICIZED the stimulus plan saying:"It is inadequate and should be closer to 1 Trillion dollars."
According to usa today: http://www.usatoday.com/money/...obama-stimulus_N.htm
an interesting article debating both sides at forbes.com: http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/...bb_0123bartlett.html
so, does that help any?