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Reply to "Restricting smoking in all public arenas"

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Originally posted by PBA:
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Who is the gov't to institue smoking bans. The last time I checked, cigarette's are legal. Let the market sort it out. If smoking is a big enough issue, then you will see a lot of non-smoking bars and restaurants open up due to demand. As far as somking establishments, if you don't want to be around smokers, don't go there. Also, the excuse about the workers doesn't hold water. If the workers don't want to work in that enviorment they can go to work elsewhere.

The last I heard this was supposed to be "the land of the free". If this nanny state continues to grow, you won't be able to leave your house without getting approval from you local municipal board to do so.

The gov't job is to fix the roads, keep us safe... and that's about it. The rest of this crap, they need to leave alone.



Dang, Well Said Southern Patriot!!! Wink The gov't job is to fix the roads, keep us safe... Yep,keeping us safe would be to make sure we have food to eat,medical care for the sick,police to lock up bad guys,and keeping the land of the free, FREE!


I am writing in hopes of contributing a comment in reaction to the smoking in cars with children ban now being discussed nationwide and internationally, claiming "child abuse?" as the platform.

Many involved in this issue don't realize how anti smoking has grown into anti smoker, in the full reliance of that distinction. Smoking bans have their roots at the World Health Organization as one of the more profitable of HIA health interventions. [Yes, I said profitable.]

The intervention model calls for partnerships to be sought out among those who would find the most benefit from a targeted campaign. A social experiment gone horribly awry.

In the beginning finding a harm in second hand smoke was an arduous and expressive venture in worst case philosophies. As time progressed the reasoning and support became almost too easy to define in use of epidemiology to express the dedicated and quite obviously biased view.

The sad realization we have all come to see here, is that smoking bans are a booty call to the corrupt, who revel in that corruption enthusiastically, when it is safe to participate openly and in public view.

Smoking bans and other HIA health interventions clearly demonstrated to the world; how deeply embedded in our societies corruption truly exists and how easily others can become corrupted when it serves common goals.

Utilizing national socialism is not unique in our history. Mussolini more affectionately called it industrial socialism when we last saw an irresistible attraction to centrist politics by means of protecting the public from the threats, other targeted individuals imposed.

Perhaps by evaluating HIA health interventions, we can see them more clearly now as a social experiment, to measure corruption by encouraging partnerships with absolutely conflicted objectives, to see, how corrupted societies have become. The partners include; Industrial concerns, Politicians in all camps, The media and most prominently the numerous medical charities at the forefront.

Unfortunately we haven't fared so well, considering the expansive growth of; global warming, Anti fat, Anti alcohol and most predominantly anti smoker fear campaigns defined now as "the model" for lobby campaign success.

How well the campaigns were supported and how quickly they grew, with constitutional and legal challenges so easily put aside, we come to see the full value of the dollar, in respect to how dedicated many have become to a dollar. Accentuating how little respect they see for the more traditional principles which are the foundations of our civilizations and governance.

It's really a sad thing to see, how low we can sink when considerations of others become secondary in our concerns and greed is allowed to rule.

It is well past the time the experiment ended and the public was let in on; the joke of our time, before no one can see a reason to laugh as the joke becomes more cruel by the hour.

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