Invictus: 'And I'll ask for a fourth time - when does God stop interfering with fetal development?'
Mr Vic, God doesn't 'interfere' with fetal development. there is no fetus or any development if God doesn't create it. He gives the first and last life-breaths taken, and every breath in between. every involuntary movement created to sustain life in our body (breath, blood flow, heartbeat, etc) is orchestrated and continuously worked by our Creator God.
Jeremiah 1:4-5
4 The word of the Lord came to me (Jeremiah), saying,
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. ”
Colossians 2:18-19
18...they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body,supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
In Him, i am the hippie girl.
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~You are just as addled as Bill. So, you are saying that God creates homosexuals. Why would God create something and then call it an abomination? God seems a little conflicted, don't you think?~
i didn't say God created homosexuals, or people with any other deviant behaviors. he created all people, we created our own lustful desires of the flesh. you are absolutely right, He wouldn't create what He says is an abomination. that's why we can be sure he didn't 'create' the homosexual lifestyle.
just because i disagree with you is no reason to attempt to discredit me, and calling me 'addled' doesn't make it so. i am not offended, and i will not reply with such a comment about you.
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So God creates homosexuals. He creates all people; homosexuals are a subset of all people; therefore, God creates homosexuals. Assuming your premise is correct, the logic is irrefutable.
Crusty, i appreciate your input, but you are assuming 'facts' that aren't in my post. apparently we disagree on what 'homosexual' is. i believe it's a chosen lifestyle, not God-given DNA, because God would have no reason to create what He defines as an 'abomination'. He is the Creator of the entire universe. we are created innocent and pure, but what we choose to become in it is another matter entirely. His creation is good, and anything other than that has been tainted by man. there's really not much to discuss when we disagree on the very basis of the subject.
As far as my opinion on the matter of humankind birth (male and/or female) I believe Scriptures give us enough insight and information/material to understand that being human consist of a physical/fleshly body, which is brought about by the physical/sexual union of two other humans (male & female). Within that fleshly physical body is (in the image of God) a soul/spirit that differentiates us from all other life species/creation. That soul/spirit is a entity that is eternal in nature (as is God) and spirt, not flesh (as is God) and also will be what last and continues after the death of the flesh/physical body. I believe that whereas the body/flesh is created by the union of human flesh (sperm/egg) the spirit/soul is created by God and is contained within the human body and after death is apart and leaves the human/flesh body.
Whether you believe homosexuality is a part of being born or from birth then if it is (which I personally believe it isn't) it is a product of the flesh and not the spirit and it is not something that God has made a person be. When it comes to belief one way or the other, regarding whether it's in the DNA and therefore you are born with it or not is a matter of personal opinion of the person based upon varying other personal beliefs. We are all born into sinful flesh and not born into a Spiritually perfect body so we all have our own problems or fallacies in the flesh and one is no greater than another for the end result is we all are in need of a mediator or Savior with respect to God and God's ultimate verdict upon Sin. Again mind you that is my own personal belief/opinion.