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There you have it, an article, that reveals that Republican efforts to stop a bill that cuts benefits to military families/men/women including disabled and retired military failed.  The Democrats WON the day and were successful at thwarting the Republican attempts to accomplish two things.

 

Republicans wanted to CLOSE a Loophole that allowed illegals to get benefits  

AND

STOP cuts to military families, men, women, etc that the bill would do including retirees and disabled.

 

Democrats WON though meaning that the Illegals get their support and get funds whereas the Military loses funds and pay.   The Illegals are getting benefits at the expense of our service men/women.  So it's a good day to be a Democrat for your side won and got what they wanted.   It's also a good day to be an illegal.  That means it's a bad day for Republicans and Military folks for you lost but then I suppose that the Democrats look at our military as being more conservative and republican leaning in their voting so guess they figure it serves them right.

 

As for me, I with the Republicans had won this round!  I wish that the military men/women as well as the retired and disabled were to get a pay raise rather than a cut.  IF I had anything to do with it any service member that qualified for and served in a special branch such as the Rangers or SEALS would also have an extra bonus and benefit added to their pay for the extra they had to endure and the extra they do and did to maintain the freedoms we have.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I would like to know the content of the bills instead of a right wing statement.  What was in the bills?  Why didn't the post tell that?  Is the post hiding the truth and just trying to get the other guy to look bad?  If Sessions is for it, it is ultra right wing.

Good points and valid question however IF the study or research proves to reveal that the article was legit and 100% on the mark then the real question would be are the loyal Democrats going to step, lock step, in line and continue to back their politicians when they make decisions and moves like this?   

 

I submit that there are a great many Democrats defending these contemporary politicians just as if they were copies or clones of the 1950's and 1960's Democrats when what I suspect is that the Democratic party has been hijacked and has become a far cry from the Democratic party of those days only there are a majority of Democrats who either fail to notice that or are unwilling to believe it.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

bahahahahaha! how on earth can any conservative be worried about someone 'hijacking' a political party,  while the teabaggers are controlling the republicans. that's priceless.

Okay here's your chance.   I hear a lot of people degrading the "Tea Party" and using that disparaging term relating to them.  Although I never joined the group or donated to the group ALL I have every heard or seen from them has been the most respectful things and words.   All the disparaging and offensive remarks have come, frankly, from the Democrats or liberals.

 

Given that and your apparent distaste for the Tea Party,  Just why do you not like the tea party?  Just what is it that they stand for that you find so offensive?   Do you even know what their platform is or are your getting your points from the Democratic National Committee?   

 

From what I have observed and heard the Tea Party's main thrust is as follows.   They are for Smaller, less intrusive, federal government.  They are for lower taxes and/or the Federal Government not spending as much as they are and holding them accountable for their spending.  Hold politicians (Republican & Democrat) responsible and to their promise to uphold and protect the Constitution.  Last to hold Government and politicians accountable and hold them to working within a budget.

 

If I'm wrong about the Tea Party's platforms or stands then please correct me.  Otherwise please explain what is so offensive about those platforms that justifies using such derogatory and offensive terms to describe them?

 

Now I might be wrong but if so please correct me.  I consider myself independent, for the most part, have voted for Democrats and Republicans through the years but frankly here is the jest of what I've observed these last 6 or so years.    Democrats spend countless efforts painting the Tea Party and Republicans with the "HATE" word yet ALL of the hatful rhetoric that I have heard seems to come solely from the Democrats.  Where am I wrong here?

Last edited by gbrk
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Tea Party= less government spending, lower tax rates, etc.   I'm a hard core democrat, I wonder who costs the government more, me or Mr or Ms Tea Party leader.  When they travel all over the country to rail against the government, they are costing the government money.

jt,

How does any Tea Party leader traveling around the US to spread that message costing the US government any money?  That does not make any sense to me?  Either you support their basic premise or you don't, but from what I have seen and read, they certainly are not operating on the backs of the US government.

jt, Although I somewhat see your argument, it does not hold much water.  How do you then account for the people who pay nothing and use these same services?  I attended a few TEA party meetings, and found them to be pretty benign.  There was no huge outcry to overthrow the government nor were they passing out applications to the KKK.   They did however debate and talk about government waste and the reality that government beuracrats will always spend every dime they can get their hands on usually in the form of pork to their constiuents.  There is not a much better example than one from this end of the state who is well known to abuse the system and never fails to bring pork money back to his district insuring his next election, but when asked about his crooked ways, it is always siad "well at least he's our crook."

This is despicable, when we ought to be using the money more wisely to take care of those who need it, instead we are spending millions on wasteful projects and things that have little to any bearing on our existence.

Last edited by teyates
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

They use the roads and airports.  What would the price of an airplane ticket rise to if the government money was taken away?  Do they ride am trak? Take the government money away, most of the protests for and against would end.

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So, it's all government money, is it?  That is a main facet of fascism.  I thought it was tax money raised from those who work -- silly me!  Airports are financed by numerous taxes and fees charged to fliers. Roads are financed by the fuel taxes.  They would be in much better condition if the government weren't diverting part of that revenue for other purposes.  Nice to see a progressive's mindset at work.  It reveals so much.

And thus is my point jt.  Taxes should be used effeciently for the good of those who need it.  They should not be used to affect votes nor give away freebies to support a candidate, but both sides do it.  If the government effectively spent what they took in, instead of wasting millions and billions of dollars we would have enough to support real need without having to increase taxes.  That is the message the TEA party is trying to get out.  Of course there are radicals on each side.  The right has people like Limbaugh who makes fools of themselves.  The Left has Pelosi and Qualidog.  Meanwhile, those of us stuck in the middle who just want to live our lives and enjoy the fruits of our labor are tasked with picking up the pieces.

So to everyone, let me say, Merry Christmas, and may the new year rbing us all good times, good health prosperity.  To this day, I have never seen one argument won on this forum, unless you count hurt feelings a victory, but I will continue to hold fast to my conservative beliefs that this country do much better by its citizens.

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Merry xmas t. A difference in you and quaildog is: qdog insists on telling the truth about the matter and let that truth be the tool to sort things out.  You and the other tea boyz on here agonize over the faulty  idea that the poor and middle class are a threat to your social position as a white hypocrite. You all enjoy the major portion of government handouts. The poor and middle class doesn’t enjoy the luxuries of running up and down these multi-million per mile roads and bridges, air travel, etc. subsidized by the government and they pay the same percent tax as do you’uns.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

Merry xmas t. A difference in you and quaildog is: qdog insists on telling the truth about the matter and let that truth be the tool to sort things out.  You and the other tea boyz on here agonize over the faulty  idea that the poor and middle class are a threat to your social position as a white hypocrite. You all enjoy the major portion of government handouts. The poor and middle class doesn’t enjoy the luxuries of running up and down these multi-million per mile roads and bridges, air travel, etc. subsidized by the government and they pay the same percent tax as do you’uns.

Haha...QD, do you actually believe any of the tripe you spew, or are you just trying to get me to bite??  In any case, I can't respond to your comment since I am too busy trying to figure out a way to opress the po'folks, and I hear they are having a slave auction this afternoon down by the courthouse, and me and missus are needing us some more house servants to entertain all of our rich friends who are coming in for the holidays......

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

teyates, some jackbooted thugs are liable to come to your house late at night for bad remarks about Limbaugh.

jt, jack booted thugs are not to be feared, unless they are flying around in black heliopters......Besides everyone knows it is not really paranoia if they are out to get cha'.....

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

Merry xmas t. A difference in you and quaildog is: qdog insists on telling the truth about the matter and let that truth be the tool to sort things out.  You and the other tea boyz on here agonize over the faulty  idea that the poor and middle class are a threat to your social position as a white hypocrite. You all enjoy the major portion of government handouts. The poor and middle class doesn’t enjoy the luxuries of running up and down these multi-million per mile roads and bridges, air travel, etc. subsidized by the government and they pay the same percent tax as do you’uns.

 

What an ignorant fool...

Meybe you should just stop spending "yo" money on RIT ..."Caramel Dye"...an' send a donation to those..."Less fortunate than the Whitey"...

Ignorance was once your Family Trademark???

 

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Still waiting on the ones who are so offended or critical of the Tea Party to explain why what they believe is so threatening or more so offensive to warrant the attacks?   Also when you answer, if you answer, please specify if your information is direct, first hand, or where or what you base your information on ?

 

Just to keep folks from having to scroll back here is what I wrote to Crash or anyone else.

 

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Okay here's your chance.   I hear a lot of people degrading the "Tea Party" and using that disparaging term relating to them.  Although I never joined the group or donated to the group ALL I have every heard or seen from them has been the most respectful things and words.   All the disparaging and offensive remarks have come, frankly, from the Democrats or liberals.

 

 

 

Given that and your apparent distaste for the Tea Party,  Just why do you not like the tea party?  Just what is it that they stand for that you find so offensive?   Do you even know what their platform is or are your getting your points from the Democratic National Committee?   

 

 

 

From what I have observed and heard the Tea Party's main thrust is as follows.   They are for Smaller, less intrusive, federal government.  They are for lower taxes and/or the Federal Government not spending as muchas they are and holding them accountable for their spending.  Hold politicians (Republican & Democrat) responsible and to their promise to uphold and protect the Constitution.  Last to hold Government and politicians accountable and hold them to working within a budget.

 

 

 

If I'm wrong about the Tea Party's platforms or stands then please correct me.  Otherwise please explain what is so offensive about those platforms that justifies using such derogatory and offensive terms to describe them?

 

 

 

Now I might be wrong but if so please correct me.  I consider myself independent, for the most part, have voted for Democrats and Republicans through the years but frankly here is the jest of what I've observed these last 6 or so years.    Democrats spend countless efforts painting the Tea Party and Republicans with the "HATE" word yet ALL of the hatful rhetoric that I have heard seems to come solely from the Democrats.  Where am I wrong here?"

 

Old Squirrelly Dawg made this statement.

 

" I suggest you dudes quit with your repub whining and wallow in  Obama prosperity the nation is enjoying, sanctioned by God Himself."

 

Last time I heard a leftwinger say he was in direct contact with God was old commie and friend of Democrats, Jim Jones.

 

If the Dawg offers you some Flavor-aid or even eggnog, this season -- politely refuse1

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