Another Claim to have a pipeline from God

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There are many "Christians" that act/talk as though they're wired directly to the Almighty, & they don't have to be from Texas to make that claim. We have one that wears the hat right here on this forum that makes that claim.

When a presidential candidate makes that kind of claim, I know that's the one NOT to vote for. 

Do you have a link contendah? Did she say god told her or did she say she prayed and felt that is the answer god gave her? It never fails to amaze me. You democrats claim to pray, and claim prayer works, yet turn right around and belittle a republican if they say god "gave them an answer." NOT defending anyone, just once more pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. 

Here's the link, I hope it works. To the left side, click on Politics, then click on Anita Perry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/ns/nightly_news

She said with no leadership in Washington, she felt a tugging/pulling at her heart that her husband should run for President. Said she felt that God was speaking to her. I didn't hear that she actually said God told her.

C'mon!!!  You didn't really believe Bush when he said that.  It was so obvious he was just sucking up to the far right. 

No one said Perry shouldn't pray if he wants.  There is a big difference between saying he prays about it and this is what he feels is right for him and saying God told him to run.  Why stick all Democrats into a lump of hypocrites when she said it and he has too?  There is a big difference between the two points of view.  Praying about something makes sense if it is your belief system.  Saying God told me to is a whole different matter.

I agree.  I want my president to come from a place of reason and compassion, knowledge, and logic, and not make his or her decisions based on his God telling him it was a good thing to bomb somewhere or push for laws that restrict others' freedoms.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't vote for a candidate who said her spirit guides, other gods, or astrologist told her she must run, or someone who said he needed to run to get rid of the religious people...lol.  It wasn't just the Christian God, although I have seen so many instances of Christian politicians trying to push their own beliefs on everyone else that it is particularly twitchy to me at this point.

No one said Perry shouldn't pray if he wants. There is a big difference between saying he prays about it and this is what he feels is right for him and saying God told him to run. Why stick all Democrats into a lump of hypocrites when she said it and he has too? There is a big difference between the two points of view. Praying about something makes sense if it is your belief system. Saying God told me to is a whole different matter.

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My point is what I posted. Religious democrats can say they pray and that god answered their prayers or they feel god wants them to do things. Republicans say the same and get attacked. Hypocritial. There is no difference whatsoever in the left wing religious nuts and the right wing religious nuts. That has been my position the entire time. Democrats use religion just as much as republicans but for some reason I can't see they get a "pass".

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Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi on May 6 addressed the Catholic clergyman at the Catholic Community Conference on Capitol Hill, where she attempted to use the Christian leaders' belief system to push her liberal agenda.

Pelosi remarked, “The cardinals, the archbishops, the bishops that come to me … say, ‘We want you to pass immigration reform,’ and I said, I want you to speak about it from the pulpit. Some (who oppose) immigration reform are sitting in those pews, and you have to tell them that this is a manifestation of our living the gospels.”

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This should amply supply your need:

"Anita Perry became tearful while recounting how her family sought spiritual guidance in the run-up the Texas governor’s announced candidacy. She said Rick was reticent to run because he hadn’t seen a direct sign from God.

“God was already speaking to me, but (Rick) didn’t want to hear it,” she said. “I said listen, you may not see the burning bush, but there are people seeing that burning bush for you. So he really took it to heart, he prayed about it.”

http://www.rationalskepticism....is-faith-t26221.html

<<<Here’s candidate Rick Perry’s wife, Anita, reflecting on her husband being “called by God” to run for the presidency:

<<<"She likened Perry's decision to run to encountering a 'burning bush,' a reference to the Biblical story of Moses receiving a sign from God.   And Anita Perry suggested that her jhusband's current difficulties were 'a test.'

Last week, someone came up to Rick and gave him scripture.  He said, 'Rick, I want to tell you God is testing you.'">>>>

http://youcallthatart.wordpres...eton-heston-he-aint/

Go to minute 5:32 and following of this video.  If you seek vapidity and boredom, watch the entirety of her blithering, rambling, pitiful whining. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#44892421

I have no objections to prayer.  What I do object to is anyone's contention that he/she has received a personal sign or message directly from God. From  such claims proceed all kinds of deception,  charlatanry, and chicanery!

I have no objections to prayer. What I do object to is anyone's contention that he/she has received a personal sign or message directly from God. From such claims proceed all kinds of deception, charlatanry, and chicanery!

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Then you should have a problem with everyone in the world that claims they prayed and god "touched their hearts", "lead" them somewhere, or "told them the answer", which would be every christian.

THERE IS A GOD! ALL I SAY IS IF HE WANTS TO RUN SO RUN. WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT WE  KNOW THAT TRULY BELIEVES IN GOD AND LET GOD BACK IN OUR COUNTRY,OR GODS WRATH WILL UPON US,WHETHER  ANYONE BELIEVES IT OR NOT.WE DEFINTANLY NEED GODS HELP.

Odd that they'd even write hymns about it.

In The Garden

By: Charles Austin Miles, 1913

I come to the garden alone
While the dew is still on the roses
And the voice I hear, falling on my ear
The Son of God discloses

And He walks with me
And He talks with me
And He tells me I am His own
And the joy we share as we tarry there
None other has ever known

He speaks and the sound of His voice
Is so sweet the birds hush their singing
And the melody that He gave to me
Within my heart is ringing

And He walks with me
And He talks with me
And He tells me I am His own
And the joy we share as we tarry there
None other has ever known

I’d stay in the garden with Him
‘Tho the night around me be falling
But He bids me go; through the voice of woe
His voice to me is calling

And He walks with me
And He talks with me
And He tells me I am His own
And the joy we share as we tarry there
None other has ever known

My father used to sing that a lot when I was little...funny you posted that and reminded me.  I remember thinking how interesting it was that he would sing that one minute and do things that weren't exactly nice the next. It always made me wonder what God was whispering in his ear..lol.

It came to mind when I was posting how every christian claims to talk to god and he talks to them, but like I keep saying, now all of a sudden the democrats figure they can use that against republicans. Another one I remember is:

Have a little talk with Jesus
Tell God about your troubles
He'll hear the faintest cry
And answer bye and bye
Feel the prayer wheel turning
Know that the fire's burning
Just a talk with Jesus makes it all right

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I guess you forgot the discussion we had that posting in caps is a form of yelling at somene?

How do you know that Perry "truly" believes in God? I'm curious if God has whispered this bit of info in your ear?  Most politicians play the Christian card for votes.

Personally it doesn't bother me to hear someone say he or she talks to a guide, deceased relatives, Spirit, God, or gods or herself.  If praying, singing, dancing, drawing, meditating, yoga, Reiki, thinking, walking in nature or whatever helps a person center and balance himself, cool too.  If someone said I prayed on this and I feel it is right for me then I wouldn't be concerned either.

It's when a person says, "God told me to do x, y, or z" that bothers me.  My experience is that when people say that for one thing they tend to use it as reasoning to do other things that might not be very reasonable, fair, ethical, or right, and it can be a slippery slope.  I can say God told me I am the next leader of the country and believe that, but it isn't a very big step from there to, "God told me this law or that law isn't right and therefore I am vetoing this bill or insisting this be done whether it takes away freedoms or not  He said I have been sent here to change xyz to reflect His laws".  

I just want my government leaders to not be taking directions from and believing that s/he is specially sent here to reshape things to fit his religious views.  If I believe in astrology and I check my horoscope that is not a big deal, but if I decide I need to lead the US according only to what my astrologist told me about how I am chosen to lead the country into war and come out victorious or limit the rights of the people in some way, well that is a slippery slope too.  I would expect a leader to listen to experts on topics, consider alternative options, think about what is best for the people in the US, do whatever centers her, and then act based on that instead of the idea that s/he is the chosen one and God told her it was the thing to do.  

Good point, semi.  Many say that and who knows what they think?

This brings me to the question...

Why do we need a president who truly believes in God to lead our country?

I just want my government leaders to not be taking directions from and believing that s/he is specially sent here to reshape things to fit his religious views. If I believe in astrology and I check my horoscope that is not a big deal, but if I decide I need to lead the US according only to what my astrologist told me about how I am chosen to lead the country into war and come out victorious or limit the rights of the people in some way, well that is a slippery slope too. I would expect a leader to listen to experts on topics, consider alternative options, think about what is best for the people in the US, do whatever centers her, and then act based on that instead of the idea that s/he is the chosen one and God told her it was the thing to do.

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That's what I want too, be they democrat or republican, and right now they both use religion, just differently.

Jennifer, if you can't see that Pelosi asking Cardinals and Bishops to talk to their flock about immigration reform is a WHOLE lot different from "God told me to run", then it's simply because you don't WANT to.

This is why I asked you (although you refused to answer) how you can reconcile your atheism and your politics. It is a FACT that many Republicans want to bring God inot politics. It is also a fact that Dems in general, do NOT want religion and politics mixed.