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The Los Angeles Times reported Sunday that Bachmann, a Republican candidate for president, portrayed herself as a fiscal conservative while receiving government funds and federal farm subsidies.

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And a family farm in Wisconsin, for which she is listed as a partner, received about $260,000 in federal subsidies.
But asked about the issue on "Fox News Sunday," she said she and her husband had not benefited at the expense of federal and state taxpayers.

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As for the farm, she said it belonged to her father-in-law. "And my husband and I have never gotten a penny of money from the farm."

 

As the Los Angeles Times reported on Sunday, however, in financial disclosure forms, Bachmann reported receiving $32,503 to $105,000 in income from the farm, at minimum, between 2006 and 2009.

 

So is she lying, or just stupid???

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Did Mr. Obama make that claim after the negotiations?

Bachmann has been receiving monies for years, its public record, and claims that she has received no benefit from her government subsidies.  The broadcast of the negotiations may have been out of the control of Mr. Obama, but but for Bachmann, repeating a lie was her response to a question that has been asked of her before, as pointed out by Mr. Jimmi. 

I do agree with your basic assertion that Repubs lie just as much as Dems. 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

As to Obama, he's fired inspectors general, in defiance of the law, and prosecuted whistle blowers, including one for cooperating with the DoD IG.  The next US Attorney General will have a full plate.

 

That would violate the professional courtesy standard that exists at the federal level, as seen with the lack of interest in the illegal firings of AG across the country for purely political purposes by Mr. BushIIe. 

She told the truth, ditto.

 

UPDATE: "I have answered reporter inquiries before about Rep Bachmann and farm subsidies. The farm has belonged to her in-laws and has been operated by them. They made all decisions concerning subsidies. Rep. Bachmann and her husband have not received any financial benefit from the farm."

A senior Bachmann adviser said the farm was put into a trust to allow for succession years ago, and that despite her being "formally listed as a beneficiary from the farm," that income goes to her mother-in-law.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57812.html#ixzz1QR1UZbhc

Originally Posted by b50m:

She told the truth, ditto.

 

UPDATE: "I have answered reporter inquiries before about Rep Bachmann and farm subsidies. The farm has belonged to her in-laws and has been operated by them. They made all decisions concerning subsidies. Rep. Bachmann and her husband have not received any financial benefit from the farm."

A senior Bachmann adviser said the farm was put into a trust to allow for succession years ago, and that despite her being "formally listed as a beneficiary from the farm," that income goes to her mother-in-law.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57812.html#ixzz1QR1UZbhc

 

Now, she has to explain the income she claimed on her financial disclosure forms for 5 years.  If the income is going to her MIL, she is going to have to show that the MIL paid income taxes on that transfer.  Or, she can just admit that she lied.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Originally Posted by interventor1212:

As to Obama, he's fired inspectors general, in defiance of the law, and prosecuted whistle blowers, including one for cooperating with the DoD IG.  The next US Attorney General will have a full plate.

 

That would violate the professional courtesy standard that exists at the federal level, as seen with the lack of interest in the illegal firings of AG across the country for purely political purposes by Mr. BushIIe. 

The attorneys were political appointees, which serve at the pleasure of the President, not professional civil service employees.  There is no federal law governing their dismissal. There may be civil service action taken against them, if they ever work for the government, again. Other, than a bar to being re-hired, or suspension, without pay, that's it! 

While Rep. Michele Bachmann has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.

 

I actually like her better now that I know she is a "welfare Queen". 

 

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

While Rep. Michele Bachmann has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.

 

I actually like her better now that I know she is a "welfare Queen". 

 

So, her husband, a doctor, has collected about $22,800 annually for treating the poor! The NYT has a number of sob stories about doctors refusing to care for medicaid patients.  Would, you rather he turn them down?  Fee for service is not welfare to the giver of the service. 

 

Let's put Ditzy down as for kicking grannies to the curb, Was that him pushing the old girl off a cliff in the ad? 
 

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So what is Mr. Bachmann supposed to do -- refuse to treat Medicaid Patients? Then someone would accuse him of discrimination and racism or something crazy like that. He provided a service to people in need. The fact that he made $137K off Medicaid for mental health issues (i.e. anxiety and depression) was probably more reason for Mrs. Bachmann to speak against Medicaid because they now have 1st hand experience dealing with those that abuse the system and cause it to be burdened. Just because someone does their job and is paid for their services doesn't mean they have to agree with the system.  To me, I don't know much about her except what negatives certain ones on here have to say but common sense would tell me that a Dr. is going to take private and public insurance -- that includes Medicaid. Unless you expect her husband to stop being a Dr. so that she can be "honest" as you want to call it.

Yes, he could refuse to treat Medicaid patients, as many docs do for varied reasons.  If you dont care that the Bachmanns dont act in their personal lives in a manner consistent with her position on government spending, then I guess you wont be surprised when she doesnt act that way in her actions as a Congressperson.  Like when she asked for more stimulus money to be spent in her state after publicly decrying the entire Stimulus spending bill as a government wealth transfer and socialism. 

Ditzy reminds me of the old VC trap called the Malay gate.  No matter which way you approach it, it tries to impale you.

 

If a doctor accepts medicaid, he's a welfare hanger-on.  If he doesn't, he's a heartless bigot.  Ditzy would be one of the first to join Obama's snitch corps reporting on doctors who refuse to take medicare or medicaid patients.  Probably wear an armband proudly during their meetings.

 

 

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I'll be no more surprised by her actions than I am any other politician.  My point is -- if her husband didn't accept Medicaid where would those patients go? He did his job. He got paid. That's no different than anything the Obama's have done, the Bush's, the Clinton's and the list goes on and on. They all say one thing, but if you did in their background there are differences. I agree with her that there is too much money spent in the Medicaid system. I think on social services there should be a time limit  -- just like there should be term limits for politicians. Anyone that lives on those programs has no incentive to have success on their own. They are there for to help but not for life.

 

I would ask the question though -- that $137,000 -- how many years did that cover and how many patients did he help?  The media always throws out the total number for shock value but the reality may be that that was over 5 years and over hundreds of patients Or more. I have no problem with them utitlizing the programs to help people and get paid.  When the government puts a stop to the the drug addict that lives next door to me that manipulates his food stamp money to buy booze and cigarettes and his disability check to buy drugs while he milks the system for all it's worth going to the doctor for pain pills after he worked on his roof.......then you can tell me the Bachmanns or any other politician should keep their hands out of the bucket.  Then again, go ahead and tout that these programs don't need to be touched that they are needed and if we cut them we are hurting more than helping.

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