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I don't know a lot about autism, but let me tell you all what I just learned. One of the nurses that I work with has an autistic son, 17 years old. She has told us since she took the job that she cannot take night call because she has no one to watch her two boys, ages 17 and 12. She can't leave the older autistic son alone with the younger one because he becomes violent with his brother. No one will babysit because he is big, belligerent and become combatives with strangers. He is apparently very, very, (I don't know if the word immature applies here?) lacking in most areas - he's not remotely potty trained, cannot answer or dial a phone, doesn't know how to get himself food from the pantry.

The mother called in with "car trouble" last week. We (some of us, not management) just found out she has been giving this child her car keys to go three miles down the road to the store - alone. This last time he made it back to the house, but ran into the garage and tore off the quarter panel of her car. She lied to the insurance company and did not have to call the police because it was in her yard.

Isn't this the most irresponsible, dangerous thing you've ever heard of? Or am I making something out of nothing? Is it possible that he could be capable of driving to the store and not being able to get food from the pantry? Is it possible he is ok to drive?
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I don't think she meant it like it came out, trouble. Sometimes things read differently from what you mean.

My point is, either way it's bad. If she's letting this child drive it's putting his life in danger (and others) and if she's been lying it's using your child to ...whatever it is she's trying to gain by that.
You people make me sick. Whose business is it anyways what this family is going through. Im sure you "are making it your business" because you feel this child is a danger to society. We have hundreds of elderly individuals in this town who are incapable of driving everyday. SOme of those individuals are your friends or even parents, but you allow it to happen anyway. How about offering some support to this lady and her family, rather than posing it as a topic of discussion on a newspaper chat room. Ridiculous
Vick 13 you have no compassion for this individual or her situation. But you call yourself a nurse. You have not learned anything about autism. This lady has a special needs child, what does she have to gain from that. She works which means for the most part the society is not left to raise her children. She sounds like she has very little support, including the support of her coworkers. And by the way rather than sitting up at work typing away why dont you people figure a way to stop patients from getting deadly staph infections when they visit your hospital.
WHOA!@ you just wait a freakin minute!

1. YOU need to do a little self education on staph infections! It is in EVERY hospital!
2. YOU would be surprised just how many people out there will use whatever excuse they can imagine to get out of working night shifts.
3. Vick came on here asking peoples opnions on the amount of information the person has RELAYED to them,she admitted her lack of knowledge of autism
4. There are alot of medical people on here and you better get used to the fact we deal with enough from beligerent,rude,unappreciative public in the course of our efforts to HELP them,we do not need people like you blasting for NO REASON . We stand together,so when you want to blast one,you have blasted us ALL!
I am concerned about this woman being a danger to her CHILD. I am so sorry that your reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking. I think there are some classes for that.

For your information - this woman has a live in boyfriend, a mother and sister who live next door, and she works "when she feels like it". She probably makes more money than you do. (I'm basing this conception on your reading skills). And she works days. Just as we all do. Except some of us work days and take call at night to care for our sick, dying patients who need us after dark. The rest of us actually go to the appointments we are assigned and take care of the people who are assigned to us.

Has it ever occurred to you that most of us OWN our own computers? It may surprise you, but most people aren't "at work typing away". One day, you'll probably have your own computer, too.

I've heard this "you call yourself a nurse" said to every nurse on this forum. It doesn't matter if it's said because we don't support a certain political candidate, current law enforcement, baby killers, or negligent parents. I have no idea where you people get the idea that nurses have to not have opinions. We don't legally or ethically have to like anything about you. All we have to do is treat you according to legal standards of care. Just like your dentist. Or your auto mechanic. We took an oath to treat you medically - not to like you.

Oh, and one way to stop people from getting staph infections is for all visitors to wash their hands. Staph is everywhere. Up to and including the door handles to schools, restaurants, and counter tops at gas stations.
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Originally posted by ecjohnson60:
You people make me sick. Whose business is it anyways what this family is going through. Im sure you "are making it your business" because you feel this child is a danger to society.


Hey, Crazy, Hateful Lady, it appears to me that the concern is for the child as well as for the entire family in this situation. And it is everyone's concern when children are in harms way. Why don't you read a little more carefully before you start attacking.
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hey vick! been missing ya! i KNOW exactly where you're coming from. you and i have had this discussion already. remember the lady with the ..umm what was it? prolapsed urethra? or something..calling in sick to work? after her brain surgery? i get this all the time, too. yeah..i'm a nurse..yeah..i'm not extremely compassionate sometimes. espcially when some retard calls off work to me and tells me her child CODED three times in the ambulance but they sent her home. sent her home? to die? or what? if your child's heart stopped beating and they had no breaths...i seriously..SERIOUSLY..doubt that they sent her home. people will use whatever sad, sad story they have to get out of work. and those are the very people who need to be working. they are usually in a low paying position that requires little or no education (hence no work ethic or responsibilty to those of us who have to ensure that some other person has to fill in for you who has already worked several hours of overtime). so ..yeah..i got ya vick girl. i KNOW where you're coming from. if this kid can drive...then about 99 percent of that person's call offs were made up. and EC? what's up with the staph? that's OLD news...lets worry about VRE and C-Diff this week...ok?
You all talk about how you should not bash others, but then you turn around and insult them too because they obviously touched a nerve. Even saying that by their language they don't have a good paying job....
Practice what you preach! I have been guilty of it too, but I learned from that....

Anyway, back on topic. I think it is very irresponsible for the mother to let her son drive if he cannot even use the bathroom by himself. On the other hand, she could be making the story more dramatic at times than it actually is. Who knows unless you are there! I just hope she doesn't read this forum because I am sure that she will be hurt seeing that she told this info to someone she trusted who ran with it.

Also, if anyone is that concerned; notify DHR. If the teen is driving without a license (since I assume he could not pass a driving test), notify the PD! There are precautions to take rather than this. Good luck if you are actually trying to help this family.
do you really think it it up to you to tell everyone who reads forums this womans business and thenc all her a bad mother. are you a coworker aand friend or a backstabbing trouble maker. or as i think most people in this bible belt are are a hypocrite? hmmm? if any of these people think that they rae your friend they better watch their backs you might get them next. but hopefully they will turn around and get you.
In one place here you say she has no one to stay with him......... in another you say she has a live in boyfriend and sister next door....... sounds like she only uses this young man for an excuse when she needs one........ Roll Eyes ..... but there are different levels of autism...... there is an autistic boy in my son's Math class who is older than the other kids and also has a drivers license...... so the level of autism would need to be explored by your bosses to see if she is only using his illness as an excuse to not work nights..... if she has a live-in,,,, then sounds like she has someone there with him.....
Posted 11 August 2008 06:43 AM Hide Post
do you really think it it up to you to tell everyone who reads forums this womans business and thenc all her a bad mother. are you a coworker aand friend or a backstabbing trouble maker. or as i think most people in this bible belt are are a hypocrite? hmmm? if any of these people think that they rae your friend they better watch their backs you might get them next. but hopefully they will turn around and get you.

Nope. She's not my friend. I would never be friends with somebody who uses their child's health to get out of work OR with anybody who thinks she's just fine doing that. Up to and including you.


and Truth, you made my point. She tells admin that she has nobody to stay with him, but the "girls" in the office who know her better (one of them dates a friend of the boyfriend) know about her mom, her boyfriend, and the child driving. Obviously, he can't drive - he just wrecked the car in her own yard. We think she's endangering the boy.
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Posted 11 August 2008 06:43 AM Hide Post
do you really think it it up to you to tell everyone who reads forums this womans business and thenc all her a bad mother. are you a coworker aand friend or a backstabbing trouble maker. or as i think most people in this bible belt are are a hypocrite? hmmm? if any of these people think that they rae your friend they better watch their backs you might get them next. but hopefully they will turn around and get you.

Nope. She's not my friend. I would never be friends with somebody who uses their child's health to get out of work OR with anybody who thinks she's just fine doing that. Up to and including you.


and Truth, you made my point. She tells admin that she has nobody to stay with him, but the "girls" in the office who know her better (one of them dates a friend of the boyfriend) know about her mom, her boyfriend, and the child driving. Obviously, he can't drive - he just wrecked the car in her own yard. We think she's endangering the boy.


Thanks Vick....... I had to reread what you said because of all the insulting comments..... but I thought I realized what you mean...... thanks for verifying it for me.....
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Originally posted by ecjohnson60:
Vick 13 you have no compassion for this individual or her situation. But you call yourself a nurse.


If you knew anything about nursing you would know that Vick as a nurse, is required by her profession to report child abuse if she SUSPECTS something is going on that isn't right. She is concerned. That's why she brought it to the attention of her compassionate friends on this Forum.

BTW - A nickname on a computer forum does not make you anonymous. You shouldn't say things on here you wouldn't say in person.
A bunch of medical professionals know of a young man with autism whose mother is allowing him to drive, wreck the car, and put his and other's lives in danger and they are doing nothing about it except gossiping about it amongst themselves and on discussion forums? Perhaps I am wrong in holding nurses and doctors to a higher standard than the average Jane or John Doe. If I knew of a mother - coworker, friend, neighbor, foe - who was endangering the life of a child, I would call the authorities. The fact that the child has autism just makes the fact that people are doing nothing even more disturbing.
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he's not remotely potty trained, cannot answer or dial a phone, doesn't know how to get himself food from the pantry.

How does this child drive? Can't dial a phone, but can start a car? Can't use the toilet, but can work the gas and the brakes? Can't make a sandwich, but can make a right into the store parking lot? Nah.


Einstein couldn't make sandwiches or cook....... but just listen to his music.... I think there is something that connects each and every one of us to this planet..... in one way or another........

But back to topic.... I agree that maybe this womans coworkers should get together and turn this in also..... even if they have to do it anonymously..... which they can....... the very least that can come out of it is to blow her cover for her excuses and make her pull her own shifts......

But........ like I said earlier...... different levels of autism gives different degrees of learning experiences....... the boy who is in my sons class drives to school every day and it is obvious he is autistic.......
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Originally posted by TheTotalTruth:

Sorry,,,,, I was looking at 2 different search engines.... one was on Einstein and the other was Bach.... Just typed the wrong name..... sorry!......


I figured as much but it was cute anyway. Smiler And it is Monday.


Lol,,,,TheNightCrow...... thank you for understanding....... hey,,,, did I tell you that I hate Mondays?...... Big Grin
Are you sure SHE didn't have the accident and blamed it on the kid? If she is juggling all of this at home, she may have bigger problems to deal with like a drinking issue or meds to deal with all that she deals with and they may have affected her driving and she just blamed the kid. Either way, it sounds like authorities that can do something about it need to be contacted -- instead of us here on the forum...
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Originally posted by T S C:
A bunch of medical professionals know of a young man with autism whose mother is allowing him to drive, wreck the car, and put his and other's lives in danger and they are doing nothing about it except gossiping about it amongst themselves and on discussion forums? Perhaps I am wrong in holding nurses and doctors to a higher standard than the average Jane or John Doe. If I knew of a mother - coworker, friend, neighbor, foe - who was endangering the life of a child, I would call the authorities. The fact that the child has autism just makes the fact that people are doing nothing even more disturbing.

If this is a true story, what TSC suggested should have been done. Time spent posting it here could have been time spent talking to DHR.
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I agree, butterflier I have read many of her posts and I don't think she has any compassion at all for her patients or coworkers. I just hope I never end up in the hospital in her care.

You'd better hope you won't end up in my care.


vick -- surely you didn't post a PM on the public side and then threaten someone...
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Originally posted by T S C:
A bunch of medical professionals know of a young man with autism whose mother is allowing him to drive, wreck the car, and put his and other's lives in danger and they are doing nothing about it except gossiping about it amongst themselves and on discussion forums? Perhaps I am wrong in holding nurses and doctors to a higher standard than the average Jane or John Doe. If I knew of a mother - coworker, friend, neighbor, foe - who was endangering the life of a child, I would call the authorities. The fact that the child has autism just makes the fact that people are doing nothing even more disturbing.

If this is a true story, what TSC suggested should have been done. Time spent posting it here could have been time spent talking to DHR.


I agree with you OB and TSC. Read my post on the first page...
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Originally posted by meme260:
I agree, butterflier I have read many of her posts and I don't think she has any compassion at all for her patients or coworkers. I just hope I never end up in the hospital in her care.


have to disagree. she's just tired of the constant BS she puts up with daily. she entered a profession where she could help. you wanna talk about red tape? enter the healthcare field. medicare medicaid insurance you can't do this you can't do that. then you have people who just want a paycheck and DON'T care and don't show up and don't work when they get there. let her vent. that's all she's doing. walk a mile in her dr. scholls.

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