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A surveying of members  listed by (or sorted by)  date of last check in or visit to the forum shows that if you take the first page only then the last person on that firsts page checked in no sooner than October of 2020.  It's the fact that so few, anymore, ever visit these forums that I have become somewhat disenchanted with the urgency of being here and posting questionable at best.

I enjoy these forums, or used to, and thought that it was a good place to exchange and debate ideas but when I began to see what limited quantity of member actually visit and routinely show up on here it seemed more than ever that we were playing to our own desires and opinions.  

I remember the days when such vivid debates raged in the Religion forum among certain members all of whom now seem to have completely disappeared, died, or have been "lifetime" banned.  It seems you never see Jennifer (aka "BestWorking") any longer and a sorting of the member list by "Member Rank" whatever that is or however it's calculated, indicates that at least 75% of the top 12 forum members, members who used to be frequent if not constant visitors and contributors, but their last visit was 8 to 10 years ago. It seems many have either totally given up on participation in the forum or possibly have left all together, or been banned by the exclusive and elusive moderators that govern the forum community, the forum god's if you will.  Forum purgetory is not even a possibility for some members rather a lifetime, condemning ban upon some meant that some of the most active, interesting, and frustrating (also opinionated) members stand no chance of returning or ever contributing again yet their forum position is eternally cemented and held although there is no chance of them being overtaken or even caught by existing members as no one seems to be able to explain how "Member Rank" is achieved or calculated or even gained.  "Bill Gray" is the most prominent of those seemingly with a lifetime ban, that continues to hold rank within the forum.  

Is there ever going to be a purging of the member list to remove those whom have ever completely left or certainly abandoned the forum?  Maybe a purging would create an incentive for some of them to return if but to only maintain a ranking that seems arbitrary at best but surely one totally vague in how it is ultimately achieved.  Then again it could be that the most antagonist and controversal are those whose community rank is exponentially boosted in count as there is no way someone achieves such lofty ranks if the calculations of that rank is uniform and constant.  It's really impossible to get even the answers to how rank is achieved, maintained, or held because I never could even get a forum moderator to answer that question when I ask it of them.

So here we are a very select few, so it seems, that are debating and talking among ourselves, a very select few indeed, who comprise the Time's Daily Opinion Forums.   Could there even be a chance of future growth if some of the bans were eliminated allowing some of the more controversial members to return?  Then of the top three forum members, in "Member Rank" alone two of the top three is the same person joining within a year of each Forum screen name and yet the most contemporary sign in of the top three is 2018 and one of the top three is one supposedly occupying a "lifetime ban" making it impossible to return.  Based upon likelihood of return and contribution it would seem that Direstraits  should occupy the #1 forum position but then maybe it's all arbitrary in the first place and like our current government situation we are in Bazarroland where up is down and down is up, right is left and the white rabbit will never be caught.  

Tea time all!

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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It's really simple... there's no debating with any of you Republicans.. you all come in and post the same articles and agree with each other's bias and congratulate each other on your nonsense posts. You all block anyone with a different opinion and one or two of your fellow Republicans REPEATEDLY makes comments as to killing their perceived political foes.
In short, who wants to subject themselves to the 6 Republicans left here? Not one of you are willing to discuss any political position, you just repeatedly spout the same old tired GOP talking points... and wash, rinse, repeat.


Welcome to the forums you helped create.

@gbrk posted:

A surveying of members  listed by (or sorted by)  date of last check in or visit to the forum shows that if you take the first page only then the last person on that firsts page checked in no sooner than October of 2020.  It's the fact that so few, anymore, ever visit these forums that I have become somewhat disenchanted with the urgency of being here and posting questionable at best.

I enjoy these forums, or used to, and thought that it was a good place to exchange and debate ideas but when I began to see what limited quantity of member actually visit and routinely show up on here it seemed more than ever that we were playing to our own desires and opinions.  

I remember the days when such vivid debates raged in the Religion forum among certain members all of whom now seem to have completely disappeared, died, or have been "lifetime" banned.  It seems you never see Jennifer (aka "BestWorking") any longer and a sorting of the member list by "Member Rank" whatever that is or however it's calculated, indicates that at least 75% of the top 12 forum members, members who used to be frequent if not constant visitors and contributors, but their last visit was 8 to 10 years ago. It seems many have either totally given up on participation in the forum or possibly have left all together, or been banned by the exclusive and elusive moderators that govern the forum community, the forum god's if you will.  Forum purgetory is not even a possibility for some members rather a lifetime, condemning ban upon some meant that some of the most active, interesting, and frustrating (also opinionated) members stand no chance of returning or ever contributing again yet their forum position is eternally cemented and held although there is no chance of them being overtaken or even caught by existing members as no one seems to be able to explain how "Member Rank" is achieved or calculated or even gained.  "Bill Gray" is the most prominent of those seemingly with a lifetime ban, that continues to hold rank within the forum.  

Is there ever going to be a purging of the member list to remove those whom have ever completely left or certainly abandoned the forum?  Maybe a purging would create an incentive for some of them to return if but to only maintain a ranking that seems arbitrary at best but surely one totally vague in how it is ultimately achieved.  Then again it could be that the most antagonist and controversal are those whose community rank is exponentially boosted in count as there is no way someone achieves such lofty ranks if the calculations of that rank is uniform and constant.  It's really impossible to get even the answers to how rank is achieved, maintained, or held because I never could even get a forum moderator to answer that question when I ask it of them.

So here we are a very select few, so it seems, that are debating and talking among ourselves, a very select few indeed, who comprise the Time's Daily Opinion Forums.   Could there even be a chance of future growth if some of the bans were eliminated allowing some of the more controversial members to return?  Then of the top three forum members, in "Member Rank" alone two of the top three is the same person joining within a year of each Forum screen name and yet the most contemporary sign in of the top three is 2018 and one of the top three is one supposedly occupying a "lifetime ban" making it impossible to return.  Based upon likelihood of return and contribution it would seem that Direstraits  should occupy the #1 forum position but then maybe it's all arbitrary in the first place and like our current government situation we are in Bazarroland where up is down and down is up, right is left and the white rabbit will never be caught.  

Tea time all!

IF you lifted the bans I don't think people would return...and the offending libs  would just be blocked...and in some cases...even posters that insisted on engaging them would be blocked. I've had to do that when Conservatives put the ones I had blocked comments in their replies. I don't care to read their nonsense. No one wants to be in a discussion where others are free to personally attack and vilify people for their opinions. I think that is a very good reason to ban them. I have posted it before...I give everyone a chance...but when they start calling me or others names...and saying we are on drugs or drunk as I have seen the liberals in here say about Republicans they don't agree with...then I will block them AND report them.  Again...I think that is the main reason people left here for other places where you don't get a 'better caliber' of liberals...because there aren't any...but places where each side can argue their position without the personal attacks and name calling. Dire wasn't blocked was he? I think he just got tired of the personal attacks. It seems like when we have a lot of folks in here trying to have discussions is when the disrupters and name callers come in. Liberals are just spoilers. As the saying goes..."Libs are why we can't have nice things".

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@JH1961 posted:

Personally, I'd like to meet local like-minded posters somewhere, like a local eatery, on a semi-regular basis, to 'solve all the world's. (or maybe some of the local ones, at least)  problems'.

I have a friend that did that years ago. I don't remember where she was "chatting" as she called it...it wasn't political...and they all got friendly and started meeting up. Then of course some got mad at some for some slight...and before you know it they were 'outing' each other...posting names and addresses. She's the type that doesn't get involved in things like that and it was a real disappointment for her because she liked most of the people and had to just step away. I don't "do" face book or any of that stuff. I don't know why people want to put all their business out in public. You hear all the time about people doing nasty stuff to others on FB or some other 'social' liberal platform. There's no such thing as a sociable liberal.

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I agree that some bans were well placed for there is no place for threats or vile insults and continual disrespect and I, unfortunately, do know that happened from time to time and has the tendency to happen the more contentious the topic.  I'm sure there was a good reason it had been said to avoid political and religious talk because of the highly personal nature of it to some folks.  

My point in the post wasn't to condemn the bans or even say that they weren't justified, at the time, but lifetime is a long time when you have a forum that could be so much more yet is these days seemingly reduced to a very small crowd.  And with regards to your reply "RU" do you not see or understand that someone with a counter point could make the exact same argument or point you made only about yourself or those who align themselves with your particular opinion and positions?  

We all, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Liberal and yes Conservative, have our reasons for our positions and the parties or politicians we align with.  With regards to comments about killing political foes where in the world did you get that?  I've never seen or read any such comments with regards to either liberal or conservatives.  As for personal blocks that people put up whether by you or someone else I think for whoever does it I'm sure they are justified for a period of time because unfortunately sometimes there comes a point where you should step back and admit to disagree rather than continue to take things to a personal level.  I also understand why the same people may converse or talk to each other and seemingly agree because they do have common views about certain issues so why wouldn't they not agree across several topics whether conservative views or liberal.  

One only has to look at the media these days to see that that there is a concerted effort on the part of liberal stations to totally squelch all conservative opinions and certainly a HUGE BIAS against anything Trump and that is totally unjustified.  Facebook/Twitter etc, all of these ban Trump and squelch his opinions and free speech and will do so to anyone who agrees with him or promotes Trump online.  That's a fact but where is that done in the conservative media or corners?  It may be there in some, I'll give you that, but I haven't witnessed it rather today there is a highly biased media and group that acts as one to set agendas and squelch other viewpoints.  

For a majority of time anyone who dared to say the COVID Virus came from China and the Virus Lab was shouted down and totally discredited yet more and more evidence tends to bear out that there is something there and that the virus could have come from that very source, whether or not it was used or worked on as a potential weapon.  Politics in general across the spectrum and the nation is mirroring, in part, the very thing that is going on here on this forum and "news to you" it's not all one sided always.  And it may be that there comes a time when it's best to ignore someone for a while if there is no progress to be made to later open dialog at another time rather than continually beat things over when there is obviously not going to be a resolution or agreement to disagree.  That means you are just as justified to block someone as they are you and I hope if I'm on someone's nerve and bother someone that much they will block me as well.

I'm sure we all would disagree with each other on something at some time but there is a way to do it respectfully and a wrong way to do it disrespectfully with honor to no one.  Yes there are some/many that have a conservative bias but look in the mirror because you have a bias as well, maybe not conservative but a bias none the less so part of understanding is to realize that each person has a reason for their bias, right or wrong, they do have a reason and part of the reason for debate and dialog is to argue our reasons out and challenge our own beliefs either for solidification of those beliefs or modification of them.  No one ever (at least in my own opinion) ever sways another through insulting them or disrespecting them but rather with reason, facts, and challenges.  You believe many of the conservatives are rigid in their beliefs and can't change and quite possibly you are also completely rigid in your liberal beliefs and stands and impossible to change or modify them.  

I'm just saying it goes both ways and consider putting yourself in someone else shoes for a change.

@gbrk posted:

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My point in the post wasn't to condemn the bans or even say that they weren't justified, at the time, but lifetime is a long time when you have a forum that could be so much more yet is these days seemingly reduced to a very small crowd.  And with regards to your reply "RU" do you not see or understand that someone with a counter point could make the exact same argument or point you made only about yourself or those who align themselves with your particular opinion and positions?  

We all, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Liberal and yes Conservative, have our reasons for our positions and the parties or politicians we align with.  With regards to comments about killing political foes where in the world did you get that?....



@JH1961 posted:

I've got a better idea: let's have a PURGE of Leftists Marxist Commies.



Oh, I guess I just made it all up.

"My point in the post wasn't to condemn the bans"

I didn't think that at all. My point was that it might not do any good to lift the bans because people that had blocked that person would just block and report them again when they started the attacks and name calling...and if they had to keep seeing their posts in others replies would block them too or just leave. This could be a busy place for discussion IF liberals wanted to discuss...but they don't. They want to attack and try to belittle anyone that does not go along with their  outrageous plans for the ruination of the country. I have never seen yet a liberal that would discuss. It's all name calling and lies with them.


"With regards to comments about killing political foes where in the world did you get that?  I've never seen or read any such comments with regards to either liberal or conservatives".

You must mean you haven't seen it in here...because that is ALL liberals have done and still do...call for the death of the Trumps and other conservatives...just like they did with Bush.

There is such a long list of the hypocritical things the left has done and still do that there is not enough time or space to list it. They apparently have very short memories too...because they seem to forget all the names they have called conservative leaders and their families...and the outright lies they told about them...and get bent out of shape when the truth is handed to them about their selected leaders.

I finally found this post I had saved.

I am 72. I have seen the democratic party go from reasonable people to rabid animals that don't want anyone to vote or speak any way other than their way. I have seen dems say they will give statehood to DC and PR and brag that will finish the Republicans and we will never have a voice in our own country's politics again. I have watched liberals burn and destroy property for months and throw this country into turmoil, fan the fires of hate under the guise of 'protesting', when in reality they are using the death of criminals to kill people that don't agree with them, commit crimes and of all things, call for getting rid the police. I have seen democrats in offices go right along with them, marching, kneeling and even declaring themselves 'antifa' and wearing clothing with the communist's pictures on them. When JFK was killed the ENTIRE nation, left and right mourned. I won't say 'came together' because we were not torn apart before. We treated each other with respect, and the right was just as shocked and angry as the left that someone had dared kill OUR president.   Now days the left calls for the death of the president and celebrates when they think there is a chance he might die. "Journalists" don't bother to hide their biases either, and they are a 24-7 hate fest for Trump. He has done nothing to warrant the rabid attacks he has to endure. I never dreamed I would hate democrats like I do. I used to vote dem locally every once and a while, but NEVER again.

@Jutu posted:

I finally found this post I had saved.

I am 72. I have seen the democratic party go from reasonable people to rabid animals that don't want anyone to vote or speak any way other than their way. I have seen dems say they will give statehood to DC and PR and brag that will finish the Republicans and we will never have a voice in our own country's politics again. I have watched liberals burn and destroy property for months and throw this country into turmoil, fan the fires of hate under the guise of 'protesting', when in reality they are using the death of criminals to kill people that don't agree with them, commit crimes and of all things, call for getting rid the police. I have seen democrats in offices go right along with them, marching, kneeling and even declaring themselves 'antifa' and wearing clothing with the communist's pictures on them. When JFK was killed the ENTIRE nation, left and right mourned. I won't say 'came together' because we were not torn apart before. We treated each other with respect, and the right was just as shocked and angry as the left that someone had dared kill OUR president.   Now days the left calls for the death of the president and celebrates when they think there is a chance he might die. "Journalists" don't bother to hide their biases either, and they are a 24-7 hate fest for Trump. He has done nothing to warrant the rabid attacks he has to endure. I never dreamed I would hate democrats like I do. I used to vote dem locally every once and a while, but NEVER again.

Like those pics of President Obama's effigy hanging from a noose?

Or the likeness of President Obama the Rightwing nuts burned?

Or the time the GOP put out pics of Democrats with a bullseye over them?

Or when Trump called for Democrats to be "2nd ammendmented"?

I especially love the way 'bestworking' describes Democrats as evil, vile, subhuman.... all while claiming to 'be open to anyone'


Republicans, on these very forums, repeatedly demonize democrats to the point of concern.... What if one of them actually follows through on their threats to 'rid their country of Communist Democrats?' Will forum Republicans rejoice or see the error of their ways?

The party of 'if you don't like it, get out' and 'you lost, get over it'... just can't seem to take their own advice.

"BestWorking"

That's who RU under one of his many IDs called me. I looked her up. Very intelligent lady...and I have no problem being compared to her. I talked to some of the old posters before they just gave up and left. Going back and reading...it is amazing how active it used to be. Bestworking was YEARS ago. Just think... RU knew her...shows he has been around all these years in one of his many names! Talk about obsessed!

@Jutu posted:

"BestWorking"

That's who RU under one of his many IDs called me. I looked her up. Very intelligent lady...and I have no problem being compared to her. I talked to some of the old posters before they just gave up and left. Going back and reading...it is amazing how active it used to be. Bestworking was YEARS ago. Just think... RU knew her...shows he has been around all these years in one of his many names! Talk about obsessed!

No more obsessed that you... thinking every new poster is me. hahahahahaha!

There's no problem identifying the queen of hypocrisy.

JUTU, thanks for posting that because I feel just like that person.  Anymore it's as the mask have come off and there is an overt mission to not participate but conquer and sadly there is no place in the new Left's nation for a two party system.  There is a move to take over all branches of government for a set agenda and I'm afraid an agenda that is not in the benefit of the majority of our nation, an agenda that will nullify our existing Constitution.

@gbrk posted:

JUTU, thanks for posting that because I feel just like that person.  Anymore it's as the mask have come off and there is an overt mission to not participate but conquer and sadly there is no place in the new Left's nation for a two party system.  There is a move to take over all branches of government for a set agenda and I'm afraid an agenda that is not in the benefit of the majority of our nation, an agenda that will nullify our existing Constitution.

There have been hundreds...if not thousands...of movies...documentaries made about the assassination . She is so right...it was a country united. Sadly, the liberals have made sure that unification will never happen again. As she said...they are now rabid animals that don't want anyone to vote or speak any way other than their way. We can add they are dangerous too...and speak openly against "white people" and Republicans and actually...in so many words...call for their death and nothing ever happens to them. Let a Conservative even dare allude to such a thing and they would be ruined!

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A lecturer at Yale University’s School of Medicine told attendees at an event back in April that she fantasizes about killing white people.

The talk was titled, ironically enough, “The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind.”

According to The Federalist, forensic psychiatrist Aruna Khilanani enlightened those at YSM’s Department of Child Study Center about her dreams of “unloading a revolver into the heads of any white person that got in [her] way, burying their body, and wiping [her] bloody hands as [she] walked away relatively guiltless …”

She added she would have a “bounce in her step” … like she did “the world a ******* favor.”

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