BILL!?

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Originally posted by rramlimnn:
I’m curious as to what youse guys are going to do with an answer fro Bro. Bill if you get one.

Would someone chime in with a response?

I would just like to see what kind of answer Billy could come up with. He thinks he has all the answers, that he's right & everyone else is wrong.
I think each person should find their own answers thru prayer/bible study but someone like Billy can easily confuse someone if they take what he says with more than a grain of salt.
Billy thinks once you're saved, you've got a lifelong ticket to Heaven & that's just not true.
I personally think adultery is wrong, Christian or not. If a person is a true Christian, & not just wearing the hat, they would never put them self in the position to even think about it, much less commit the act.
No matter what religion or church a person belongs to, the Bible is the same for everyone & each person should search their heart & asked God for understanding of it.

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I would just like to see what kind of answer Billy could come up with.

He is obviously a little hesitant for it would expose his own hypocrisy. I'm for keeping the heat on, though. So what soy you, bill?

The hypocrisy is already well exposed with or without an answer.

it is, indeed.
Therefore, Mr. Gray, I will close this discussion, and conclude that you are full of caca, and your "word" aint worth a lick.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Sir.
780 plus people have read this. thats 780 people that you will not "save", or reach, because you refuse to address the question.

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
The hypocrisy is already well exposed with or without an answer.

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Originally posted by vplee123:
You should be ashamed of yourself, Sir.
780 plus people have read this. thats 780 people that you will not "save", or reach, because you refuse to address the question.

Hi VP,

But, there have only been 45 replies -- and 30 of those were your PMS moments!

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by vplee123:
You should be ashamed of yourself, Sir.
780 plus people have read this. thats 780 people that you will not "save", or reach, because you refuse to address the question.

Hi VP,

But, there have only been 45 replies -- and 30 of those were your PMS moments!

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

Who are you and what have you done with the stoic, self assured Bill Gray I thought I was getting to know? As a woman I am personally offended by the way men throw the PMS thing around. That's like saying all cranky men must just have a bad case of jock itch.

That is why it's better to not disclose you are female on a forum.
The male mentality of any faith looks down on women.

May I suggest PMS for men:

Permanent Male Stupidity.

I suppose you're right.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by vplee123:
You should be ashamed of yourself, Sir.
780 plus people have read this. thats 780 people that you will not "save", or reach, because you refuse to address the question.

Hi VP,

But, there have only been 45 replies -- and 30 of those were your PMS moments!

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

..What's that tiny, muffled sound?
Wait! MM-Hmmm. It's the pitiful little bit left of TheBill's credibility falling flat on it's face.

Loser.

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Originally posted by AtticFeline:
I suppose you're right.

Don't worry about, we know they think with their small head !!!!!!LOL.

Bill, that remark was so sixth-grade, I am surprized even YOU could stoop so low! Now just ask yourself, is that something Jesus would be proud to hear one of His own say? You should be mightily ashamed of yourself!

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Originally posted by O No!:
Bill, that remark was so sixth-grade, I am surprized even YOU could stoop so low! Now just ask yourself, is that something Jesus would be proud to hear one of His own say? You should be mightily ashamed of yourself!

Are YOU having a moment?

No Bill, I am just telling the truth. You have just proven that you are NOT a Christian, but a trolling weasel who comes on this board to stir up trouble and arguments amongst us TRUE Christians. YOU, buddy boy, are working for the dark side. I have wondered about that before, but you have just proven it. I'd say "go to hell", but you have already assured that you will. And when you think about it, Heaven would not be very heavenly with the likes of you there. So I'll just say, "Kiss off weasel".

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Originally posted by O No!:
No Bill, I am just telling the truth. You have just proven that you are NOT a Christian, but a trolling weasel who comes on this board to stir up trouble and arguments amongst us TRUE Christians. YOU, buddy boy, are working for the dark side. I have wondered about that before, but you have just proven it. I'd say "go to hell", but you have already assured that you will. And when you think about it, Heaven would not be very heavenly with the likes of you there. So I'll just say, "Kiss off weasel".

Thanks for showing your true colors, you devil worshipping weasel!

Bill, how about an apology for that PMS comment? Again, I took offense at the fact that a Christian would make such a light-hearted reference to woman's monthly cycle. This just might be the issue that puts me on the other side of the fence as far as listening to you in the future.

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Originally posted by O No!:
Thanks for showing your true colors, you devil worshipping weasel!

Bill, you're not MY mother, although I must say you ARE a real "mother".

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Originally posted by AtticFeline:
Bill, how about an apology for that PMS comment? Again, I took offense at the fact that a Christian would make such a light-hearted reference to woman's monthly cycle. This just might be the issue that puts me on the other side of the fence as far as listening to you in the future.

Well Bill? Want to apologize to all women for a stupid statement or do you wish to be considered an ill-mannered, ill-bred religious nut from California?

How much you want to bet the weasel is typing up the start of a new thread? He is running out of cartoons to post, so now he is busy cutting and pasting some claptrap about who knows what. He has been outed. He has not denied my allegation that he is working for Satan. So now he'll dodge some more with more lies that he gets from some dubious website.

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Originally posted by AtticFeline:
Bill, how about an apology for that PMS comment? Again, I took offense at the fact that a Christian would make such a light-hearted reference to woman's monthly cycle. This just might be the issue that puts me on the other side of the fence as far as listening to you in the future.

Hi Feline,

My post was not intended for all ladies; only my contentious Friend, VP, who would argue with a mirror.

So, if what I said offended you; I do apologize.

No one loves and respects women more than me; well, except for Jesus Christ -- and I would lay my life on the line to protect a woman. I would never speak ill of women. However, a specific contentious woman -- that is a different story.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,l

Bill

LIAR!

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Originally posted by O No!:
How much you want to bet the weasel is typing up the start of a new thread? He is running out of cartoons to post, so now he is busy cutting and pasting some claptrap about who knows what. He has been outed. He has not denied my allegation that he is working for Satan. So now he'll dodge some more with more lies that he gets from some dubious website.

Yet even MORE proof that Billy Boy is a liar!

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Originally posted by O No!:
Yet even MORE proof that Billy Boy is a liar!

An air bag won't save you sonny, it's far too late for that.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Feline,

My post was not intended for all ladies; only my contentious Friend, VP, who would argue with a mirror.

So, if what I said offended you; I do apologize.

No one loves and respects women more than me; well, except for Jesus Christ -- and I would lay my life on the line to protect a woman. I would never speak ill of women. However, a specific contentious woman -- that is a different story.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,l

Bill

You know, I don't even know what to say. I was feeling better after reading this but then noticed it was followed by a cartoon which was another attack against women, this time women of a certain hair color instead of the unfortunate ones who go through horrible hormone changes and mood swings at certain times of the month.

I think it's a shame that after all this time you've allowed "them" (the naysayers) to win. You were the reason I ever ventured over here and now, due to the comments about PMS and blondes, it appears that what I feared was too good to be true indeed was too good to be true. What's next? Mother-in-law jokes? Fat woman jokes? There are too few Christians left who can both talk the talk and walk the walk. God bless you, too. I will pray that you regain the conviction, character, and credibility so many of us count on but that you've somehow managed to lose lately.

Mr. Gray, your misuse of Proverbs 27:15 is clear indication that you haven't a clue as to what you quote in Scriptures in general. Did you notice the semicolon after that verse?

Pro 27:15 A constant dripping on a day of steady rain And a contentious woman are alike;
Pro 27:16 He who would restrain her restrains the wind, And grasps oil with his right hand.

Proverbs are like parables, they convey a higher spiritual message, but because you insist they are literal, you try to use them to insult people, and justify your heretical teachings, constantly and consistently.

Proverb

H2420
חידה
chı̂ydâh
khee-daw'
From H2330; a puzzle; hence a trick, conundrum, sententious maxim: - dark saying (sentence, speech), hard question, proverb, riddle.

Parable

G3850

παραβολή
parabolē
par-ab-ol-ay'
From G3846; a similitude (“parable”), that is, (symbolically) fictitious narrative (of common life conveying a moral), apoth gm or adage: - comparison, figure, parable, proverb.

Mr. Gray, you would do well to heed the admonishment of King Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived.

Pro 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
Pro 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Didn't I tell you Jesus taught in parables (proverbs) so people would NOT understand? You have proved my point.

Mat 13:13 "Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
Mat 13:14 "In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says, 'YOU WILL KEEP ON HEARING, BUT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND; YOU WILL KEEP ON SEEING, BUT WILL NOT PERCEIVE;
Mat 13:15 FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL, WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR, AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES, OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES, HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN, AND I WOULD HEAL (save) THEM.'

This is talking about you Mr. Gray.

gdriggs

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Originally posted by AtticFeline:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Feline,

My post was not intended for all ladies; only my contentious Friend, VP, who would argue with a mirror.

So, if what I said offended you; I do apologize.

No one loves and respects women more than me; well, except for Jesus Christ -- and I would lay my life on the line to protect a woman. I would never speak ill of women. However, a specific contentious woman -- that is a different story.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,l

Bill

You know, I don't even know what to say. I was feeling better after reading this but then noticed it was followed by a cartoon which was another attack against women, this time women of a certain hair color instead of the unfortunate ones who go through horrible hormone changes and mood swings at certain times of the month.

I think it's a shame that after all this time you've allowed "them" (the naysayers) to win. You were the reason I ever ventured over here and now, due to the comments about PMS and blondes, it appears that what I feared was too good to be true indeed was too good to be true. What's next? Mother-in-law jokes? Fat woman jokes? There are too few Christians left who can both talk the talk and walk the walk. God bless you, too. I will pray that you regain the conviction, character, and credibility so many of us count on but that you've somehow managed to lose lately.

Bill,
You have really reached as low as you can go. You insulted a person who you had been conversing with on an adult level until they made a remark about being female then you instantly went into the mentality of a 12 year old. You can't use that PMS line and then claim it only applies to one person, Bill. A biological function that women have no control over became your gutter humor and insult because YOU DID NOT WANT TO ANSWER HER QUESTION!.

I am female too Bill, if you missed that. I was also insulted as I am insulted by any one who makes such crude and low class statements. You have lied and avoided questions, insulted believer and non- believer alike, then have the gall to say "God Bless".

No Bill, you have no Christian heart within you, only a vileness that oozes to the point of overtaking your mind. You use the Bible to allow you to criticize, insult, belittle, and demean people that don't think like you. The Bible should never be a tool used to ridicule another human being.

Bill, you laugh at the atheists and hope they rot in Hell, you demean the Christians who don't follow your blind philosophy, you condemn all other religious faiths, and you have also proved yourself to be a sexist, low class, fanatical, Bible thumping, insane, old man who has lived a false life.

I will pray for you Bill, more than anyone. You need it a lot more than the atheists. At least they are honest about their feelings and doubts, you can't be honest about anything.

Very sad Bill.

VP, please ignore this ignoramus of an anus.

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Originally posted by AtticFeline:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Feline,

My post was not intended for all ladies; only my contentious Friend, VP, who would argue with a mirror.

So, if what I said offended you; I do apologize.

No one loves and respects women more than me; well, except for Jesus Christ -- and I would lay my life on the line to protect a woman. I would never speak ill of women. However, a specific contentious woman -- that is a different story.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,l

Bill

You know, I don't even know what to say. I was feeling better after reading this but then noticed it was followed by a cartoon which was another attack against women, this time women of a certain hair color instead of the unfortunate ones who go through horrible hormone changes and mood swings at certain times of the month.

Hi B,

The graphics below is what was in my post to Feline. Please explain how that is "an attack against womn."

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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contentious Friend, VP, who would argue with a mirror.

No, Bill. I don't argue.
I explain my opinions, and challenge those that I believe to be false.
I am not contentious in the least- however, I will jump up and down when one is using God's Word in error.
And I will speak out against false teachers. For I believe with all my heart that you are a false teacher, that has an axe to grind with anyone that doesn't blindly follow you.
Well, Newsflash, Mr. Gray-
Jesus would have never spoken to people the way you do- He would have loved them even more.
And He never had to "lead" his sheep- they simply followed Him.
You want to beat people into submission, and make fun of them when they have differing opinions. THAT is contentious.

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Originally posted by b50m:
Bill, You have really reached as low as you can go. You insulted a person who you had been conversing with on an adult level until they made a remark about being female then you instantly went into the mentality of a 12 year old. You can't use that PMS line and then claim it only applies to one person, Bill. A biological function that women have no control over became your gutter humor and insult because YOU DID NOT WANT TO ANSWER HER QUESTION!.

I am female too Bill, if you missed that. I was also insulted as I am insulted by any one who makes such crude and low class statements. You have lied and avoided questions, insulted believer and non- believer alike, then have the gall to say "God Bless".

VP, please ignore this ignoramus of an anus.

HI B,

Yes, my Friend, I am aware you are a female. And, thank you for your civil, Christian comment above. It is so much better than saying PMS.

I will have to correct you on one point. Yes, I have been attempting to dialogue with VP on an adult level -- but, she flat refuses to chat civilly with anyone who will not accept her Roman Catholic doctrines. I am sorry; but her Roman Catholic doctrines are not Biblical; so, I cannot accept them.

This upsets her and she tells me, "You should be ashamed of yourself, Sir. 780 plus people have read this. That's 780 people that you will not "save", or reach, because you refuse to address the question."

And, I responded, "Hi VP, But, there have only been 45 replies -- and 30 of those were your PMS moments!"

Which, by the way was, most likely, pretty close to the truth; about her posts being the majority. She rants and raves when I will not accept her Eucharist and Mariology doctrines -- and I jokingly suggest she is having a PMS moment. Am I medically wrong that women do not have PMS? I have even heard a lot of women say the same thing, "Oh, I must be having a PMS moment." Are these women denigrating women? Do they hate women?

Or, could it just be that you want to find something wrong with what I write -- so, you will jump on anything that you think you can label negative against anyone? PMS is not negative against women. Have you never had a PMS moment?

B, if this upsets you -- I am sorry. It was not meant, in any way, to be a slam against women. But, to be quite honest -- I do believe that VP has something -- call it PMS, or just call it being nasty -- but, there is something there. Maybe she just loves to argue. I do not know. So, you give me a better name for her rants and raves -- and I will appreciate your help.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Simple Bill,
Answer her question. She can chat civilly with everyone else Bill, even the atheists, so perhaps it is you who is having a "PMS MOMENT".

When you call it a 'PMS moment', it is degrading because you imply that any woman that doesn't agree with your statement or that argues a point is temporarily insane. Yes, Bill, insane.

Know the origin of hysteria?

Main Entry: hys·te·ria
Pronunciation: \his-ˈter-ē-ə, -ˈtir-\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from English hysteric, adjective, from Latin hystericus, from Greek hysterikos, from hystera womb; from the Greek notion that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus
Date: 1801

1 : a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral functions
2 : behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess <political hysteria>


So women have been accused of being insane because they have a body capable of reproduction and it requires some really freaky hormone changes. I have moments when I want to scream and then 5 seconds later, cry. But to assume that a 'pms moment' can somehow affect the logical deductions of my brain is offensive. Yes, I called you an anus. You are acting like one. Even a Christian can be one.
You should have the decency of being a gentleman to apologize to VP, and hopefully you can accept women as equals in all things Bill, instead of servants.

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Originally posted by b50m:
Simple Bill,
Answer her question. She can chat civilly with everyone else Bill, even the atheists, so perhaps it is you who is having a "PMS MOMENT".

Hi B,

True, I have have my "PMS type" moments. Who hasn't? And, I have offered to answer her question; but, I do not believe she really wants that -- for, then, she would have nothing to rant about.

You mention that she can dialogue with even atheists. That is true, she will chat with anyone who does not disagree with her RC doctrines. And, Deep doesn't disagree -- he just ignore her doctrinal demands.

Others agree with her "we cannot know we are saved" religion. So, civil tongue there.

But, because I do believe in Conservative Christian theology and doctrines, which are most often polar opposites of her church's teachings -- I am her enemy. So be it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

OK Bill, then answer it for me.

If adulterers cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven and yet you said if they asked for forgiveness they could, then assume they did not ask and died committing the sin, do they go to Heaven or Hell?

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Originally posted by b50m: Well Bill? Want to apologize to all women for a stupid statement or do you wish to be considered an ill-mannered, ill-bred religious nut from California?

Let's not blame California for this one, he's locally grown.

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Yes, I have been attempting to dialogue with VP on an adult level -- but, she flat refuses to chat civilly with anyone who will not accept her Roman Catholic doctrines. I am sorry; but her Roman Catholic doctrines are not Biblical; so, I cannot accept them.

Bull! I can chat civilly with anyone who returns the pleasure of civility. You, on the other hand, are on the attack all the time. I have found friends in Protestants, Atheists, Agnostics, whomever conveys a mutual respect. My "forcing" Catholic doctrine is a falsehood. Yes, I have defended my faith, when you post mistruths and myths about it. But I don't give a rats behind whether anyone "accepts" it, as that is between them and God. Not me. But I will vehemently defend my faith when under attack, or declared to be non-biblical.

"I would never speak ill of women. However, a specific contentious woman -- that is a different story."

Well, Bill, if this is so, you could kindly address your problem directly to me.
I will defend my faith, dispell your lies as long as God wills it. And if defending my faith and demanding accountability for your lies make me contentious....I will gladly rise to the occasion.

I must say, this thread is awesome! The shared action from many people of many viewpoints to subdue a common bully by using real compassion and intellect is a pleasing demonstration of what kind of people we have in our community.

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do believe that VP has something -- call it PMS, or just call it being nasty -- but, there is something there

wow. something there. hmm....what could it be?
Are you a psychiatrist now too?
Man, your curriculum vitae keeps on growing!
I wonder what it could be......
if anyone else would like to help diagnosing me, I would really appreciate it. I didn't knwo I "had" anything>!?!?