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I'm really happy for Billy Reid.  I'm glad that he is a success nationally and internationally.  I admire and congratulate him on promoting our area.  I'm pleased that he has located a store downtown, and that he has contributed to the renovation of downtown.  I wish him nothing but continued success in all that he does.

 

That being said, I don't get his clothes.  Whenever I'm downtown with one of my daughters, we pop in and have a look around.  Until earlier this week, I've never seen anything that is that astounding, or even different. 

 

This week I saw a shirt and a jacket that I thought might look good on me, though neither was anything special.  The quality of the shirt was good, and the cloth was nice.  The overall look was good.  Same with the jacket.  Nothing special about any of it, at least in my mind.  So I check out the price of the shirt.  I think it was this shirt - I'll let you see the price for yourself:  Link

 

Here is a similar shirt (cloth, cloth weight, and construction from what I can tell) from Orvis, which I own. Link   It's not anything particularly special, but the quality is excellent, the fit is great, it is very comfortable, and unlike Billy's shirt, I can throw this one in the drier.  I own a lot of shirts from Orvis.  It takes me about ten years to wear one out.  The only difference between the two shirts - besides the pattern and color - that I can tell is that one was sewn in Italy, and the other in the USA.

 

So, what's the deal?  Who would pay over twice the amount to have an Italian sew his shirt versus a shirt manufactured in the USA?  What is it about Billy Reid's clothing that commands such a premium price? 

 

I'm honestly curious.

 

 

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When I was about 14 or 15, my mother and I went to Little Rock to shop for school clothes and a suit for me.  We were picking out a tie, and one of them had the designer's logo on it.  This is the first instance that I can remember of that.  It was about a year or two before Izod shirts with the alligator on them came out.  My mother looked at the tie, and said to the salesman, "we don't wear our labels on the outside."

 

Times have changed.

 

 

I feel the same way about Victoria Secret bras and panties. I have found comparable items for a fraction of the cost. I think labels matter to some people. Not to me. Unless I have found that a certain clothing manufacturer actually does a superior brand I don't purchase for name alone. 

 

Here is another example of a local clothing designer that I can't understand or justify the price of their goods. I have a very similar top that I bought in Nashville this summer for $30.00.
http://alabamachanin.com/a-line-top

 

 

Reid has well designed clothing, but his sizes and styles tend to be for those very thin, and young,. Part of the attraction is the detailing -- which sets designers apart from much of the off the shelf clothing one sees at clothes marketed to the mass market.

 

Spent most of my professional life wearing Brooks Brothers and Burberry. Not quite as pricey as top designers brands, but not cheap, either.  Both of those clothiers have professional tailors to complete the fittings for their ready to wear.  Does Reid?  If so, that is another reason for the higher price. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Curious too.  Another case of, "Do you have more money than sense? Here's the shirt for you." Also, why do people, in effect, pay clothing and other companies to advertise for them by buying clothes with their names on them? To name two, Old Navy and Panama Jack.

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And worst of all--Tommy Hiffleflinger or whatever his name is, which is often written in huge, over-sized letters on the clothing made offsh o r e for his company. He should pay those who wear them a fee for advertising his overpriced merchandise.

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Crusty,

 

My shadow will never cross Billy Reed's doorstep.

 

I have several Orvis items of clothing, all purchased at garage sales at no more than $3.00 per item. All are in great condition with no visible wear, no imperfections of any kind.  It is well-made stuff. Same with Land's End.  My latest garage sale purchase of that brand was two very nice long-sleeved shirts for $2 each.  Also in great condition.  

 

I bought a Jack Victor cashmere sport coat at a local thrift shop for $5.00.  That brand is truly elite. The store price for that item is around $500-600.. See:   http://www.destinationxl.com/1...mere-sport-coat.html     Fits great; looks good. I own about 25 sport coats bought at garage sales or thrift stores, and have never paid over $5.00 for any of them.I'm talking about respected labels, too--Brooks Brothers, Palm Beach, Jack Nicklaus Golden Bear, Evan-Picone, Hart, Schaffner & Marx, etc.). Garage sales and thrift stores are the way to go, especially if you wear a very common size.

 

Call me Cheapskate if you wish, but I get plenty of compliments on things I buy from those two primary sources. 

Originally Posted by Contendah:

Crusty,

 

My shadow will never cross Billy Reid's doorstep.

 

I have several Orvis items of clothing, all purchased at garage sales at no more than $3.00 per item. All are in great condition with no visible wear, no imperfections of any kind.  It is well-made stuff. Same with Land's End.  My latest garage sale purchase of that brand was two very nice long-sleeved shirts for $2 each.  Also in great condition.  

 

I bought a Jack Victor cashmere sport coat at a local thrift shop for $5.00.  That brand is truly elite. The store price for that item is around $500-600.. See:   http://www.destinationxl.com/1...mere-sport-coat.html     Fits great; looks good. I own about 25 sport coats bought at garage sales or thrift stores, and have never paid over $5.00 for any of them.I'm talking about respected labels, too--Brooks Brothers, Palm Beach, Jack Nicklaus Golden Bear, Evan-Picone, Hart, Schaffner & Marx, etc.). Garage sales and thrift stores are the way to go, especially if you wear a very common size.

 

Call me Cheapskate if you wish, but I get plenty of compliments on things I buy from those two primary sources. 

 

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Reid has well designed clothing, but his sizes and styles tend to be for those very thin, and young,. Part of the attraction is the detailing -- which sets designers apart from much of the off the shelf clothing one sees at clothes marketed to the mass market.

 

Spent most of my professional life wearing Brooks Brothers and Burberry. Not quite as pricey as top designers brands, but not cheap, either.  Both of those clothiers have professional tailors to complete the fittings for their ready to wear.  Does Reid?  If so, that is another reason for the higher price. 

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Brooks Brothers has served me well, and some years ago Hart Schaffner Marx was my preferred suit brand. 

 

I don't claim to be a clothing expert, or even an amateur connoisseur, but I didn't notice any detailing that was particularly spectacular.  I have no problem paying a premium price for clothing that is in some way exceptional.  I'm not seeing that in Billy Reid's clothing. 

 

If you took his racks of clothing and put them in JC Penneys, I couldn't tell the difference between his stuff and what is already there. 

 

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Curious too.  Another case of, "Do you have more money than sense? Here's the shirt for you." Also, why do people, in effect, pay clothing and other companies to advertise for them by buying clothes with their names on them? To name two, Old Navy and Panama Jack.

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And worst of all--Tommy Hiffleflinger or whatever his name is, which is often written in huge, over-sized letters on the clothing made offsh o r e for his company. He should pay those who wear them a fee for advertising his overpriced merchandise.

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Yes, he is grossly overpriced, too.  The difference though is that he had very distinctive, creative, and fresh look.  Billy Reid looks like Sears or JC Penney or half a dozen other places in the Mall to me. 

-Tommy Hiffleflinger or whatever his name is,

 

A few years back, I looked at some TF shirts, (made in SE Asia) in a store beside some similar made in America shirts. The appearance was the same, the price of the TF was about 10 times the made in America shirt. The only difference was the pretty insignia on the front and the one made in America might not shrink 2 sizes the first time it was washed. But, if you want a pretty insignia, go for it.

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

I'm really happy for Billy Reid.  I'm glad that he is a success nationally and internationally.  I admire and congratulate him on promoting our area.  I'm pleased that he has located a store downtown, and that he has contributed to the renovation of downtown.  I wish him nothing but continued success in all that he does.

 

That being said, I don't get his clothes.  Whenever I'm downtown with one of my daughters, we pop in and have a look around.  Until earlier this week, I've never seen anything that is that astounding, or even different. 

 

This week I saw a shirt and a jacket that I thought might look good on me, though neither was anything special.  The quality of the shirt was good, and the cloth was nice.  The overall look was good.  Same with the jacket.  Nothing special about any of it, at least in my mind.  So I check out the price of the shirt.  I think it was this shirt - I'll let you see the price for yourself:  Link

 

Here is a similar shirt (cloth, cloth weight, and construction from what I can tell) from Orvis, which I own. Link   It's not anything particularly special, but the quality is excellent, the fit is great, it is very comfortable, and unlike Billy's shirt, I can throw this one in the drier.  I own a lot of shirts from Orvis.  It takes me about ten years to wear one out.  The only difference between the two shirts - besides the pattern and color - that I can tell is that one was sewn in Italy, and the other in the USA.

 

So, what's the deal?  Who would pay over twice the amount to have an Italian sew his shirt versus a shirt manufactured in the USA?  What is it about Billy Reid's clothing that commands such a premium price? 

 

I'm honestly curious.

Crusty: Let me quote Dr. John Bridges' defense of the Government of the Church of England, 1587: "If they pay a penie or two pence more for the reddinesse of them . . Let them looke to that, a foole and his money is soon parted".

 

 

 

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by prissy442:

I shop Ried for the occasional piece but it is annoying to be there selecitng something and feel the presence of someone who has been handling J C Penny only a few moments ago. Most of my things come from NY or Paris.

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LOL!

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Hmmm! Didn't know of any meds that come from those two cities to nursing homes. Our granny tranny does get some good ones, however. 

 

Originally Posted by renecillo7:
Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

I'm really happy for Billy Reid.  I'm glad that he is a success nationally and internationally.  I admire and congratulate him on promoting our area.  I'm pleased that he has located a store downtown, and that he has contributed to the renovation of downtown.  I wish him nothing but continued success in all that he does.

 

That being said, I don't get his clothes.  Whenever I'm downtown with one of my daughters, we pop in and have a look around.  Until earlier this week, I've never seen anything that is that astounding, or even different. 

 

This week I saw a shirt and a jacket that I thought might look good on me, though neither was anything special.  The quality of the shirt was good, and the cloth was nice.  The overall look was good.  Same with the jacket.  Nothing special about any of it, at least in my mind.  So I check out the price of the shirt.  I think it was this shirt - I'll let you see the price for yourself:  Link

 

Here is a similar shirt (cloth, cloth weight, and construction from what I can tell) from Orvis, which I own. Link   It's not anything particularly special, but the quality is excellent, the fit is great, it is very comfortable, and unlike Billy's shirt, I can throw this one in the drier.  I own a lot of shirts from Orvis.  It takes me about ten years to wear one out.  The only difference between the two shirts - besides the pattern and color - that I can tell is that one was sewn in Italy, and the other in the USA.

 

So, what's the deal?  Who would pay over twice the amount to have an Italian sew his shirt versus a shirt manufactured in the USA?  What is it about Billy Reid's clothing that commands such a premium price? 

 

I'm honestly curious.

Crusty: Let me quote Dr. John Bridges' defense of the Government of the Church of England, 1587: "If they pay a penie or two pence more for the reddinesse of them . . Let them looke to that, a foole and his money is soon parted".

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A  quote from another dead Englishman, John Ruskin,  comes to mind:

 

“There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse, and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey.” 

 

That does not, mean, however, that one should shell out the big bucks unreasonably demanded by the likes of Billy Reid.

 

 

 

 

Anytime I shop my tailor personally picks up my selections and assures the quality is there, if not that is addressed before it is sent to me by currier.  I hate those noisy brown what-ever-they-are rumbling down the street trespassing on porches with nasty boxes packed by slave labor.

Originally Posted by prissy442:

Anytime I shop my tailor personally picks up my selections and assures the quality is there, if not that is addressed before it is sent to me by currier.  I hate those noisy brown what-ever-they-are rumbling down the street trespassing on porches with nasty boxes packed by slave labor.

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Is that the "currier" that used to be partnered up with "Ives"? And have those noisy brown trucks failed to provide you with the dictionary you seem to need?

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