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BREAKING NEWS: shooting, Discovery Middle School in Madison Co.

OogwayOogwayEverybody Knows My Name
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
Don't you get it? If you, who are so sure that your kids are fine, and I, who am so sure my kids are fine, and everybody else who think their kids are just fine, try to generalize these incidents by assuming they only happen to other people and deny that something like this would never happen to their kids, don't make SURE, by open communication, by knowing what is going on with their kids lives, who their friends are, and make sure their kids are never afraid to come to them about everything, you never know. We don't know what happened. It could have been a morning of bad judgement and a surge of testosterone. Or yes, it could have been over gang stuff, drug stuff, whatever. But typically these kids come from normal middle class families anyway. I am just saying that the ones who never think this might happen to them sometimes don't bother following thrugh to make sure it doesn't. We all need to be aware. And not just of our own kids. Of all kids.


i get it. i don't think those people in madison got up this morning and sent that kid to school and said "now, when you see him, shoot him in the back of the head."
nor do i think the other kid's parents sent him to school and said "don't pay any attention to that kid threatening to kill you. he is just suffering from hormones/ bad hair day."

every person here is thinking "this would NEVER happen at (your school here). "

that is what these parents thought this morning!
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
Don't you get it? If you, who are so sure that your kids are fine, and I, who am so sure my kids are fine, and everybody else who think their kids are just fine, try to generalize these incidents by assuming they only happen to other people and deny that something like this would never happen to their kids, don't make SURE, by open communication, by knowing what is going on with their kids lives, who their friends are, and make sure their kids are never afraid to come to them about everything, you never know. We don't know what happened. It could have been a morning of bad judgement and a surge of testosterone. Or yes, it could have been over gang stuff, drug stuff, whatever. But typically these kids come from normal middle class families anyway. I am just saying that the ones who never think this might happen to them sometimes don't bother following thrugh to make sure it doesn't. We all need to be aware. And not just of our own kids. Of all kids.


i get it. i don't think those people in madison got up this morning and sent that kid to school and said "now, when you see him, shoot him in the back of the head."
nor do i think the other kid's parents sent him to school and said "don't pay any attention to that kid threatening to kill you. he is just suffering from hormones/ bad hair day."

every person here is thinking "this would NEVER happen at (your school here). "

that is what these parents thought this morning!


You've done a lot for my heart with your post. I just wanted you to know that. Thank you. If I can get through to just one person and you can get through to just one person, it will be worth wallowing through this slop trough of sanctimony.
W WHHall of Famer
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
Don't you get it? If you, who are so sure that your kids are fine, and I, who am so sure my kids are fine, and everybody else who think their kids are just fine, try to generalize these incidents by assuming they only happen to other people and deny that something like this would never happen to their kids, don't make SURE, by open communication, by knowing what is going on with their kids lives, who their friends are, and make sure their kids are never afraid to come to them about everything, you never know. We don't know what happened. It could have been a morning of bad judgement and a surge of testosterone. Or yes, it could have been over gang stuff, drug stuff, whatever. But typically these kids come from normal middle class families anyway. I am just saying that the ones who never think this might happen to them sometimes don't bother following thrugh to make sure it doesn't. We all need to be aware. And not just of our own kids. Of all kids.


i get it. i don't think those people in madison got up this morning and sent that kid to school and said "now, when you see him, shoot him in the back of the head."
nor do i think the other kid's parents sent him to school and said "don't pay any attention to that kid threatening to kill you. he is just suffering from hormones/ bad hair day."

every person here is thinking "this would NEVER happen at (your school here). "

that is what these parents thought this morning!


You've done a lot for my heart with your post. I just wanted you to know that. Thank you. If I can get through to just one person and you can get through to just one person, it will be worth wallowing through this slop trough of sanctimony.



What exactly did you "get through" to anyone?
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
I said "If I can". Oogway obviously could already see the forest for the trees, I get no credit for that! Believe me, you North Alabama people are not the only people in the world, contrary to what you may believe. Most of you people were born here, will die here, and will never know life away from here at all. Nobody is going to change your narrow minded views about anything and I realize that. You people re-elected Bob Riley, after all. Now, do you have anything constructive to say?
W WHHall of Famer
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
I said "If I can". Oogway obviously could already see the forest for the trees, I get no credit for that! Believe me, you North Alabama people are not the only people in the world, contrary to what you may believe. Most of you people were born here, will die here, and will never know life away from here at all. Nobody is going to change your narrow minded views about anything and I realize that. You people re-elected Bob Riley, after all. Now, do you have anything constructive to say?



Now you want to insult everyone in North Al ?

Surly its not that thug mentality rearing its ugly head is it?
OogwayOogwayEverybody Knows My Name
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH. It wasn't meant as an insult anyway. Just an observation as I see it from the point of view as an outsider.


you'll learn to hide if you live here.
"free thinking" is frowned upon!
W WHHall of Famer
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH. It wasn't meant as an insult anyway. Just an observation as I see it from the point of view as an outsider.


you'll learn to hide if you live here.
"free thinking" is frowned upon!


Care to give an example?
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH.


I think a person should raise their children in a responsible manner. Is that the kind of thinking you don't agree with? It must be as that is what i have stated.



And just what is it that you consider responsible? Do you teach them tolerance, or to judge others? Do you teach them that diversity is a good thing, or that people who are not like them are inferior? Do they respect other cultures, religions, points of view, sexual preferences, etc? Or do they go to the good church on Sundays, pretend to be good Christians, and gossip and put others down the minute they get out those double doors? Because that's what I see here so much in this area. Intolerance and hypocrisy. Not at all what Jesus taught.

And by the way, the child has died. I just saw his beautiful face on the tv. He had the wide open angelic smile of any other 14 year old boy in the world. He looked like a great kid. Not at all like a thug. I'm willing to bet the kid who shot him doesn't either.
OogwayOogwayEverybody Knows My Name
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH. It wasn't meant as an insult anyway. Just an observation as I see it from the point of view as an outsider.


you'll learn to hide if you live here.
"free thinking" is frowned upon!


Care to give an example?


do you live here? (in the Laud/Colbert/Franklin area.)
W WHHall of Famer
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And by the way, the child has died. I just saw his beautiful face on the tv. And he wasn't Indian. He was black. And he had the angelic smile of any other 14 year old boy in the world. He looked like a great kid.

And just what is it that you consider responsible? Do you teach them tolerance, or to judge others? Do you teach them that diversity is a good thing, or that people who are not like them are inferior? Do they respect other cultures, religions, points of view, sexual preferences, etc? Or do they go to the good church on Sundays, pretend to be good Christians, and gossip and put others down the minute they get out those double doors? Because that's what I see here so much in this area. Intolerance and hypocrisy.



I never said what the 'victim' was.

I will treat the rest of your post as it is...bigoted prejudice.
W WHHall of Famer
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH. It wasn't meant as an insult anyway. Just an observation as I see it from the point of view as an outsider.


you'll learn to hide if you live here.
"free thinking" is frowned upon!


Care to give an example?


do you live here? (in the Laud/Colbert/Franklin area.)


Yes I live here. I have also lived in Chicago Il., Memphis Tn. and Columbus Ga. I think this area is by far a better area than any other I have lived in. What is your point?
gypsycgypsycHall of Famer
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH.


I think a person should raise their children in a responsible manner. Is that the kind of thinking you don't agree with? It must be as that is what i have stated.



And just what is it that you consider responsible? Do you teach them tolerance, or to judge others? Do you teach them that diversity is a good thing, or that people who are not like them are inferior? Do they respect other cultures, religions, points of view, sexual preferences, etc? Or do they go to the good church on Sundays, pretend to be good Christians, and gossip and put others down the minute they get out those double doors? Because that's what I see here so much in this area. Intolerance and hypocrisy. Not at all what Jesus taught.

And by the way, the child has died. I just saw his beautiful face on the tv. He had the wide open angelic smile of any other 14 year old boy in the world. He looked like a great kid. Not at all like a thug. I'm willing to bet the kid who shot him doesn't either.
The boy who shot him may not look like a thug, but he is! He is a murderer, just like the dictionary calls it! I have one question....if you are sooo unhappy here with all of us 'narrow-minded' people, why are you here?
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by gypsyc:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH.


I think a person should raise their children in a responsible manner. Is that the kind of thinking you don't agree with? It must be as that is what i have stated.



And just what is it that you consider responsible? Do you teach them tolerance, or to judge others? Do you teach them that diversity is a good thing, or that people who are not like them are inferior? Do they respect other cultures, religions, points of view, sexual preferences, etc? Or do they go to the good church on Sundays, pretend to be good Christians, and gossip and put others down the minute they get out those double doors? Because that's what I see here so much in this area. Intolerance and hypocrisy. Not at all what Jesus taught.

And by the way, the child has died. I just saw his beautiful face on the tv. He had the wide open angelic smile of any other 14 year old boy in the world. He looked like a great kid. Not at all like a thug. I'm willing to bet the kid who shot him doesn't either.
The boy who shot him may not look like a thug, but he is! He is a murderer, just like the dictionary calls it! I have one question....if you are sooo unhappy here with all of us 'narrow-minded' people, why are you here?


Frankly, that is none of your business. Trust me, I won't be here a moment longer than I have to be.
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by Oogway:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
No, just that cross-section of narrow minded people who think like you do, WH. It wasn't meant as an insult anyway. Just an observation as I see it from the point of view as an outsider.


you'll learn to hide if you live here.
"free thinking" is frowned upon!


Care to give an example?


do you live here? (in the Laud/Colbert/Franklin area.)


Yes I live here. I have also lived in Chicago Il., Memphis Tn. and Columbus Ga. I think this area is by far a better area than any other I have lived in. What is your point?


But I'd be willing to bet you were raised here. You wouldn't be so closed minded if you were originally from anywhere else.
gypsycgypsycHall of Famer
Ok, are we supposed to be tolerate of this murderer? Is that what we should be teaching our children. We should not 'blame' him for his actions, we should blame society? Frankly, my children have more sense than that!! I teach my children that they are responsible for their own actions!! As far as judging...I think it is pretty clear that this 'child' THUG, shot this child, he will be judged!! I just pray that he is not slapped on the wrist because someone else is responsible for him not having enough sense to live in a civilized society.
BFred07BFred07Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
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Originally posted by WH:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
Yes, YOU are a redneck racist and nothing you can say makes any difference, WH. I just wonder if you've ever called a white child a thug. Something tells me "no".


Exactly where does a persons race come into play here?


BTW, the name calling says a lot about you.


Oh, really, WH? You, instead of expressing ANY concern for this tragic situation chose to post a one word response. "THUG". What exactly does that say about YOU??? Mrs. Carl, I didn't say you shouldn't ever use the word or be ashamed for using it, but try to see my point about the way it was obviously used by WH. If you can't, then you are just like everybody else around here. 75 years behind the rest of the country with your head in the sand. Also, don't try to say you haven't heard young black men be generally referred to as thugs around here simply because they're young and black or I will call crap on that, too. Sorry. I call 'em as I sees 'em.


Your comment is the first I've ever heard of "thug" being a term for a young black man. I use the term now and then to refer to black, white, and hispanic people both young and old when the term is appropriate. The shooter is a thug, I hope he's tried as an adult and soon has a needle in his arm instead of going through the bleeding heart juvenile system where the defendant is never to blame.
You are the one who brought race to the table on this thread and if you think “everyone around here” is so backward and “75 years behind the rest of the country” why instead of complaining and trying to find excuses to start crap don’t you just leave? Race is not an issue on anything with very many people at all, you’re just looking for problems.
My prayers are with the victim and his family and also with the family of the little thug that caused this.
OogwayOogwayEverybody Knows My Name
what about the "video", made by the kid that got shot. it ridicules the other kid. yea, i see where someone being ridiculed is a "thug". makes perfect sense to me.

maybe the "thug" was bullied so badly, he thought this was his only recourse. i'm not standing up for either one. i'm saying "if mom and dad had an open line of communication with him, maybe this could have been avoided."
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
One child is dead and another might as well be and all these people can do is point the finger and call names. Out of respect for the families and yes, the other child, I will no longer be part of this discussion after this last post. I will say this...it's easy to find the shooter on MySpace if you know his name, which I do and NO, I won't share. Even though the pages are private, you get a good idea of his state of mind. I was in that chat room last night too and there was a whole lot going on between the two kids. Too bad it went this far. The youtube video was taken down out of respect for those involved.
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HARLEY FLSTSHARLEY FLSTSHall of Famer
It is very sad that this young boy died. But I do feel that the shooter should be held responsible and not get his hand slapped through our current system. He knew what he was going to do when he brought the gun with him to school. We can all sit here and blame the parents, the school, the maker of the gun and the lack of metal detectors in the school but it still comes down to the boy's decision to fire the gun.
_Joy__Joy_Old Faithful
Exactly, HARLEY. This happens any time something bad happens. People look for someone to blame. It's natural. I do the same.

The truth is that the only person responsible and the only person who will be held responsible is the shooter. By the time you are in middle school, you know murder is a crime. It's an incredibly sad situation and I pray they ALL find comfort and peace in the days to come.
J JOY4567Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
The truth is that the only person responsible and the only person who will be held responsible is the shooter. By the time you are in middle school, you know murder is a crime. It's an incredibly sad situation and I pray they ALL find comfort and peace in the days to come.

Well said, Joy. So sad for both families involved.
W WHHall of Famer
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The truth is that the only person responsible and the only person who will be held responsible is the shooter. By the time you are in middle school, you know murder is a crime. It's an incredibly sad situation and I pray they ALL find comfort and peace in the days to come.



Who else do you feel should be held responsible?
HomesickGirlHomesickGirlHall of Famer
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
I said "If I can". Oogway obviously could already see the forest for the trees, I get no credit for that! Believe me, you North Alabama people are not the only people in the world, contrary to what you may believe. Most of you people were born here, will die here, and will never know life away from here at all. Nobody is going to change your narrow minded views about anything and I realize that. You people re-elected Bob Riley, after all. Now, do you have anything constructive to say?


There it is. Sometimes it's best to just let someone talk until they say what they REALLY mean.
F forumaddict2Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by HomesickGirl:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
I said "If I can". Oogway obviously could already see the forest for the trees, I get no credit for that! Believe me, you North Alabama people are not the only people in the world, contrary to what you may believe. Most of you people were born here, will die here, and will never know life away from here at all. Nobody is going to change your narrow minded views about anything and I realize that. You people re-elected Bob Riley, after all. Now, do you have anything constructive to say?


There it is. Sometimes it's best to just let someone talk until they say what they REALLY mean.


You are absolutely right. I meant everything I said. How classically twisted and narrow-minded to quote just one of my statements, and the one that has the least to do with the topic. Please don't reduce the loss of a young life to something as trivial as what I think about some of you. You know what I was saying in several other posts here and for you to try to sum it all like that is unconscionable and disrespectful, not to me ( I don't care about that) but to the people who are suffering. I know I said I wasn't going to post about this again, but I don't want any late readers to miss everything else I said that you didn't bother quoting. How selfish you are.
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ms. wonkams. wonkaHall of Famer
My my my Forumaddict2 what a twisted and bitter person you must be, if you hate Al. that much then by all means run far far away.I grew up here and then moved to Fl. for 18 yrs.After witnessing the crime,fast paced life and expense of living there I am sooo happy to be back in my home state.

As for the shooting at this school, none of us have all the details. As horrific as that shooting was my God invokes forgiveness for all those you ask and readily recieve Jesus as their Savior.Did God not forgive Saul,did Jesus not ask the Father to forgive those who crucified him,did Stephen not ask God to forgive those who stoned him to death?

And let's not forget, "Judge not lest ye be judged."
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