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When a scam is revealed, many times, the con men will try to change the name of their little scam to continue to milk the suckers.  Changing from global warming to climate change is a good example.  Of course, there is climate change, several ice ages prove that.  The last little ice age and two warming trends (during the Roman settlement of England and the Medieval era) are proof of this,  Whether its warmer because of human cause is the question.  Obviously, the last two trends were not manmade.  Warming ceased over 15 years ago. Warmists attempt to explain this by stating the heat is hiding in the oceans.  However, the oceans' temperature haven't raised enough to explain this away.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

if you don't believe the global climate is changing... you're a bigger fool that i thought... and that's one hellofa leap!

The climate changes, that's a proven fact. Unfortunately for fools like you and Al Gore it is not caused by humans.

 My question to you, smartazz, is this-what caused the earth to warm up between previous ice ages??? Mankind or could it possibly be that giant ball of superheated burning gasses at the center of our solar system???
Turns out that the Sun is the real inconvenient truth for liberals.

 

another leap by CaptainCrapsader... if i KNEW what caused global climate change, i wouldn't be here, on these forums, with fools like you. i'd be doing something about it. your reply speaks volumes about your intellect. i NEVER declared a reason for the changing climate, your ASSUMPTIONS make you seem like even more of an idiot. the real inconvenient truth is dolts like you, who deny facts.

dire, sometimes data gets interpreted wrong. it happens in EVERY field. does it mean the entire project is wrong? sometimes, but not often. you can keep denying the facts. sooner or later, we're all going to see the results. sea level has continued to rise, maybe not at the originally predicted rate, but rising none the less. the global temperature is climbing. maybe not at the rate originally predicted, but still rising. all the factors are there. only a fool could deny them.

For the 17th year, global temperatures haven't risen.  Progressives and other enviros still insist that global warming is a fact., although, they may use climate change as a subterfuge.  They have now joined the ranks of those who are certain they know when the day of judgment is coming. 

 

"Hold your champagne glasses high this holiday season, because the end of 2013 marks the 17th year without global warming.

 

This year has been trying for climate scientists and environmentalists who have been trying hard to explain away the 17-year hiatus in global warming and link “extreme weather” to rising greenhouse gas emissions — despite strong evidence to the contrary. There has been a breakdown in the manmade global warming consensus, and some even argue we are headed for an ice age."

Perhaps, you should have read a bit of the article!

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3) Satellite data shows that the polar bears have at least one reason to be happy this year – Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent over last year’s record low coverage. Contrary to Al Gore’s prediction that there would be no polar ice cap by this year, sea ice coverage spanned nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic last year.

4) Global cooling is on the way, according to an increasing number of scientists. German scientists have predicted that based on declining sunspot activity and natural climate oscillation the world will cool over the next century. Temperatures will eventually drop to levels corresponding with the “little ice age” of 1870.

 

5) Other scientists have also been coming around to the global cooling side of things. The BBC reported that Professor Mike Lockwood of the Reading University predicts that at the current rate of decline in solar activity, another “Little Ice Age” could envelope Northern Europe."

 

"7) The Senate testimony of Dr. Roger Pielke of the University of Colorado completely undercut environmentalists and Democrats trying to claim that global warming was causing “extreme weather.”

 

“It is misleading and just plain incorrect to claim that disasters associated with hurricanes, tornadoes, floods or droughts have increased on climate timescales either in the United States or globally,” Pielke said. “It is further incorrect to associate the increasing costs of disasters with the emission of greenhouse gases.”

 

The other witnesses on the panel did not refute Pielke’s data."

 

Scientists in supposedly warming Russia are warning of cooling, as well.

 

"Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: “we could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years”

Scientists at Russia’s famous Pulkovo Observatory are convinced that the world is in for a period of global cooling. 

 

Global warming which has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, may give way to global cooling. According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is waning, so the average yearly temperature will begin to decline as well. Scientists from Britain and the US chime in saying that forecasts for global cooling are far from groundless.

Some experts warn that a change in the climate may affect the ambitious projects for the exploration of the Arctic that have been launched by many countries.

 

Just recently, experts said that the Arctic ice cover was becoming thinner while journalists warned that the oncoming global warming would make it possible to grow oranges in the north of Siberia. Now, they say a cold spell will set in. Apparently, this will not occur overnight, Yuri Nagovitsyn of the Pulkovo Observatory, says.

 

 ”Journalists say the entire process is very simple: once solar activity declines, the temperature drops. But besides solar activity, the climate is influenced by other factors, including the lithosphere, the atmosphere, the ocean, the glaciers. The share of solar activity in climate change is only 20%. This means that sun’s activity could trigger certain changes whereas the actual climate changing process takes place on the Earth”.

 

Solar activity follows different cycles, including an 11-year cycle, a 90-year cycle and a 200-year cycle. Yuri Nagovitsyn comments."

 

http://www.climatedepot.com/20...lasts-200-250-years/

 

 

Last edited by direstraits
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Here is an expanded view of crashes temp chart.  It encompasses much more than his tiny snap shot and is extrapolated to show future temps using sophisticated computer modeling.

 

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this is the kind of stupid stuff the rt. wing will stoop to .. .this is a 'sine wave' from radio shack's website. notice the gradual increase in the global temperature in EVERY graph. including the graphs posted by rt. wing spokes person, direstraits.

Again, in our recorded history, we know of two warming and subsequent cooling cycles.  The cooling cycle that came after the first one at the end of the western Roman empire was so severe that people thought it was the end of the world, awaiting the judgment of God.

 

Now, at the end of our third warming cycle, we see human activity instead of divine judgment as the cause.  Same mindset amongst the tribalists of  both groups. 

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Here is an expanded view of crashes temp chart.  It encompasses much more than his tiny snap shot and is extrapolated to show future temps using sophisticated computer modeling.

 

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this is the kind of stupid stuff the rt. wing will stoop to .. .this is a 'sine wave' from radio shack's website. notice the gradual increase in the global temperature in EVERY graph. including the graphs posted by rt. wing spokes person, direstraits.

 


LOL, I bet ol' crash had to go to Wikipedia to find out what a sine wave is.  Too bad he's so obtuse he didn't get the meaning of my post.

 

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