Creationist Fallacies

Well you spend about 99% of your time flailing at a god you claim doesn't exist.  Who is stupid?  Is this what you intended to do with your enlightenment?

You do understand what the enlightenment was all about right? Or are you just being stupid?

Hi all,

 

I am thoroughly convinced that if, by some divine act of God, the word STUPID were to be taken from the vocabulary of all atheists -- they would spend the rest of their lives tongue-tied, unable to communicate.

 

Who wants to join me in prayer for divine intervention?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

I don't necessarily believe in CrossPosting but given the statement above, to start off this thread, I feel it appropriate so I will re-post it here as well as having it in the "Dear God" topic.

 

GBRK Posted today, Sunday at 11:03PM under the DEAR GOD topic the following directed to DF or NotShallowNotSlim:

Well we can all rest knowing that you have no preconceived bias or prejudges at all.  Are you falling back into that same rut that many non-believers do where they cannot simply argue the merits of their own belief system but have to retort to demeaning those who believe differently?  Can we be respectful enough not to use insults or insulting terms to apply to those who choose to believe in God or some Religion?  They have just as valid and good of reasons to believe the way they do as you do the way you do yet again you seem incapable of recognizing this.  Someone who didn't know better might consider that arrogance

It would be comical that number of times that this becomes consistant with some of the atheist and non-believers if not for the fact that I fully believe these people have a firm conviction and belief that they are so superior and do believe just what they type.  It's not anything new though ... consider the following

 

Acts 17:18 (NLT)
18 He also had a debate with some of the Epicurean and Stoic

philosophers. When he told them about

Jesus and his resurrection, they said, “What’s this babbler

trying to say with these strange ideas he’spicked up?”

Others said, “He seems to be preaching about some foreign gods.”

 

 

and

 

 

1 Corinthians 1:18-25 (NLT)
18 The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed

 for destruction!But we who are being saved know it is the very

power of God.

19 As the Scriptures say, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise

and discard the intelligence of the intelligent.”

20 So where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars,

and the world’s brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom

of this world look foolish.

21 Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never

know him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish

preaching to save those who believe.

22 It is foolish to the Jews, who ask for signs from heaven.

And it is foolish to the Greeks, who seek human wisdom.

23 So when we preach that Christ was crucified, the Jews are

offended and the Gentiles say it’s all nonsense.

24 But to those called by God to salvation, both Jews and

Gentiles, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.

25 This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human

plans, and God’s weakness is stronger than the greatest of

human strength.

 

 

 

Yeah the times have changed but the players remain the same.

 

 

 

 

"Quote mining"  I like that description.

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You'd still have me to deal with, BeeG.

I rarely if ever use that word.

 

I know even better ones.

 

Well deep,

I am a creationist. Are you calling me stupid?

I recommend the 6k package with instructions for you.

 

 

Great post gb

Let's see how well this flies:

 

Not all non-believers are Atheist.  Only the stupid ones.

GBRK says "have to retort to demeaning those who believe differently?  Can we be respectful enough not to use insults or insulting terms to apply to those who choose to believe in God or some Religion?  "

 

You must have missed the point.  No surprise there.

No, NO ONE is "stupid" for beleiving in god or Gods.  Deluded, perhaps, but that remain to be seen when we all power down for good.  What is demonstrably stupid, idiotic, insane, beyond belief, is that you choose to reamin stupid in your knowledge over somehting that you pretend to care so much about: the scientific theory of evolution that is THE foundation of all modern biology.  Your fundamentalist religious beleifs will not allow you to even pick up a book and actually learn what the theory means. 

Evolution does NOT deny a god any more that the discovery of heliocentric solar system denied god.  You don't find many people who don't accept that the sun is the center of the solar system.  In a few more generations, it will likely be just as rare that people believe man evolved from a lump of clay.

Yes, GB, when you proudly proclaim ignorance and outright stupidity, you should expect to be ridiculed, demeaned and insulted.  There is a cure for it: Read a book.

Just to throw this out there:

 

Since the Bible begins:

¹ In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

 

And since the definition of Creationism is:

Creationism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Creationism is the religious belief that humanity, life, the Earth, and the universe are the creation of a supernatural being.

 

It would be hard for any person who believes in God to NOT believe in Creationism.

 

Ergo, all Christians are stupid according to atheists.

 

As DA likes to say: Typical.

 

What book unoi? Give us the title of "A" book.

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The blue miner has no clue, he's brain dead.

 

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thank you darlin'

When are you going to plead my case to joy so's I can come back?

You're barking up the wrong tree. I would not have let you in, in the first place. Joy is the nice one.

I know you are playing with them now Ram, .... Remember it is atheist you are talking about and you do know their FAVORITE word.   Therefore deduction would be that the book he is referring to is:

 

The IDIOT's Guide to Evolution.  I bet he has one on smart phone or tablet if he has one.

 

 

Gb your conclusion is definitely of no greater generality than his premise that one could read “a book” and have sufficient knowledge about the theory of evolution.

Based on his past fornications in the archway to the truth; I would not atall be surprised at this book you mentioned being his authority.

Good call.

 

A good book for you would be The Greatest Show on Earth. Google it. It was written for people who don't have any academic training in Biology. Very clear and easy to understand.

I guess the attempt at Levity didn't hit the target.  No need to clarify it or explain it so I'll move on.

 

 

Blue will be happy to know you have progressed beyond "See Spot run".

And it's nice to see that you haven't.

believing in a creator isn't stupid.

 

allowing that belief to blind you to the simple factual realities of science and education is what makes the 'stupid' word come out.

 

going into a cathedral carved from stones that are millions of years old, while insisting the earth was made 6k years ago is stupid.

 

not taking your child to the hospital because you know the lord will provide any healing the child needs is stupid.

 

saying that the bible is the direct literal word of god, because the bibles TELLS us that it is is stupid.

 

interpreting scripcture to prove your point and then claiming that the bible is the literal word of god is stupid.

 

believeing in god, and the bible and jesus, in and of themselves, is not stupid.

 

discounting reality because it conflicts with what the book tells you is stupid.

 

 

 Inventing 'truth' to make the bible right and science wrong is also stupid, of the highest order.

"when god created the world, he created so that it was already billions of years old."

 

that sentance, said to me by a CoC preacher when i was a child, might be the grandfather of stupid.

at 8 years old or so that sentance jarred me hard and made me think  "wait... why would he do that? that doesnt' make any sense? there would be no reason for god to do that. is this old man just makin stuff up as he goes?"

 

but to be fair.. i don't know that such a blatently ignorant idea is even being taught anymore.. it was, but i can't say if it still is. does any one know for sure? i hope not.

you are kidding, right?

You are so mean.

Stupid things said by stupid people rarely have wings.

Not kidding. It is a book that you should read. I don't expect you to. You don't want to risk learning something that you don't want to know. It presents solid, irrefutable science in a way that even you can understand. If you choose to stay ignorant, then that is your problem.

I can see why you stay grounded.

Yeah?  I was just reading where one of those solid, irrefutable science theories just fell by the wayside when another one superseded it.   Now in a growing number of scientist minds Dinosaurs are found out to actually be warm blooded  or that's what the article was proposing.  Regarding books the same could be said about the Bible, solid, irrefutable word of God and just as you dogmatically believe this book is infallible so to many believers feel that the Bible is.  It all depends on who you ask.  

 

So now we are starting to see where your belief/faith lies.  Part of it relies upon "The Greatest Show on Earth".  Actually I think that phrase was also used to refer to the Ringling Brother's Circus Show .. show as in entertainment value.  Never know they could be related for I believe Ringling Brothers made extensive use of monkeys also. 

 

Good grief jimbo I’ve read enough reviews of the book to see he is the laughing stock of the scientific community. Microbiology, an observational science, has left paleontological or zoological observations behind.         

. A couple below.

http://apologetics315.blogspot...arth-by-richard.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/book...atest-show-evolution

jimi unless your next book you recommend is not this tall [three feet] it will not even begin to explain evolution.

Dawkins even had the gall to argue with my fran Carl Sagan's ole lady Lynn Margulis.

 

gb,

 

The notion that late-era dinosaurs were warm-blooded is nothing new.  It's been speculated for decades, on solid evidence.  This is not news.  After all, modern day dinosaurs, the birds, are warm-blooded.

 

 

Nothing Dawkins has ever written is infallible, nor would Dawkins himself claim it to be so.  He'd be the first to appreciate an advancement of knowledge that rendered his current state of the art knowledge moot.  If you read "The God Delusion" you'd know this.

 

Science changes, it builds upon itself, it improves itself, it contains no dogma.  These are a few of the reasons why science and reason is superior to religion.

 

Can't you see it, man?  Can you really not see this?

 

DF

Hi Deep,

 

Yes, science changes because mankind is learning more about God's Creation.   "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1) -- including all the sciences and all the laws governing those sciences.  Then, He let it lay there waiting for the "more brilliant than God" atheists to find.

 

You see, that is one of the major differences between science and the Bible.  Science changes as man's knowledge grows or as his societal norms change.  The Bible never changes.  God "a u t h ored" it once; and never saw reason to change it.   That is one of the anchors of our faith -- God never changes.  He was, is, and always will be -- our God, perfect in all ways.   And, one day, we will be with Him face to face.   I really would love to see you join us.   Care to give Him a try?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Yes NSNS. Instead of just putting people on Earth as we are today, bill's god thought it would be fun to make mankind "work for it". AND after he makes mankind work for it, he's going to take them away from it to some creepy place in the clouds and raise some hell on Earth to punish the non-believers in as gruesome a way as can be imagined. (If you listen to bill and his ilk). Now NSNS, don't you want yourself some of that good god love? Think of it NSNS, you can float around on a cloud and look down and see people being tortured, some whose only "crime" was not believing in bill's god. Good people burning on Earth and in heaven all the Karla Faye Tuckers, child rapists, Manson family members, that "accepted jesus" along with bill, looking down. Dang, how could anyone not want some of that love?

Irony accepted, the bottom line is that it's not love.  Christianity and Islam are religions of hatred and bigotry.

In the end, they are religions that relish the idea of Hell for everyone not of their own superstitions.  Any school of thought that depends on violence to defend itself is, by necessity, corrupt and evil.

 

DF

  Christianity and Islam are religions of hatred and bigotry.

 

I'll add those to the list as well.

I know very little about Islam, so I'll take your word on it.  The principles of Christianity are the polar opposite of the principles of hate and bigotry.  Unfortunately, there is a small but vocal group of self-proclaimed "Christians" who twist the message of Christ to one of hate and bigotry.  Please don't lump all Christians with the fundamentalist wackos.  You are smarter than that.

Crusty, I'm smarter than the average bear, but Christianity and Islam are religions of hatred and bigotry.

Only hateful religions would threaten nonbelievers with everlasting torment.  No human being, except perhaps Jesus and Mohammed, has ever been so cruel.

Both of these religions disparage those who do not accept them.  The blessings of love only apply to their own.  They threaten them with Hell.  This is hatred and bigotry defined.

 

The 'love' that Jesus and Mohammed pursued was directed to those who agreed with them.  And none other.  Scorn, ****ation, and hellfire await those who do not accept their "love".  What sort of monsters were they?  What sort of horrible demons were the prophets of the Old Testament who practiced genocide, murder, slavery, rape, child-murder, filocide, mysogeny, and torture in the name of a loving, generous god?

 

They are, at best, the vicious recountings of the barbaric values of primitive tribesmen.  It is to the discredit of modern humanity that such traditions exist in any fashion other than myths in dusty anthropology textbooks.

 

DF

 

There is a core underlying reason in deeps past that has altered his genetic makeup to a point they will be inherited if he has children. If not he will be responsible for environmentally induced changes on others.

Genes that might otherwise be prompted to allow for a belief in God are suppressed and less desirable decisions are the final outcome.

Only Bro Bill has the patience and staying power to save him. Eventually Bro Bill will force genetic adaptations on deep’s part and deep will evolve into a man of the cloth.

This possibly will not occur in their lifetime but in some existence after death. Let us all pray this may be the case.

 

 Pitiful.

Whoa! I missed something. Joy told me she was giving everyone three strikes. Has Deep Dot/Rram/buffalo/vapid crusader already used them all up?

 

I was not allowed to enter into their sacred domain either.  I looked all over the place and could not find a single warning against being a Conservative Christian.  Yet, when I asked to be allowed to register -- total silence.   So, I just assume it is an Exclusive Club for liberals and their Friends.  No great loss.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Bill, I don't believe that is what Joy intended. I will talk with her. There is no reason that you...or anyone else...should not be allowed to register. I'm sure you can expect some stinging retorts at any forum where one is allowed to express their opinion, but no one will be banned except for bad behavior.

 

If it helps, when I first registered, I couldn't get in, and Joy had to do some hoodoo to get it to take me.

Hey Y'all,

 

Deep declares, "Crusty, I'm smarter than the average bear, but Christianity and Islam are religions of hatred and bigotry."

 

First, he should not be insulting his distant bear ancestors.  I have seen some pretty smart bears.

 

But, rather than get into the middle of a long running "spitting contest" -- I have chosen to answer his erroneously blind statement in a new discussion.  Take a look at "Behind Door One, Happiness -- Behind Door Two, Destruction!"   

 

Of course, Jennifer will get her hackles up, declaring, "No, thank you!  I will stay here!"    

 

Okay, not a problem.  We will struggle along without her insightful input.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Bill, since I don't have hackles I must surmise that you're thinking of your old lady, and yes, I will discuss his topic ON his thread and skip your sermon.

Thank you to my most earnest, most loyal FAN -- JENNIFER!   But, really, Jennifer -- I do not deserve such high praise and devotion.

 

One thing I can always count on is my Favorite FAN always being the first to applaud when I speak.  Thank you, Jennifer.  You truly are an inspiration!  It is always such a thrill to know that when I post -- within one nanosecond -- my greatest FAN will respond.   What a blessing you are to me.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Looks like telling time is one more thing you can't do, and I've never heard you speak. You're pretty fast on the draw there yourself. One more example of your paranoia. Uh bill, look up the definition of fan, you'll find that when it comes to you I don't fit that description.

 

 

Throw  her another bone, Bill...she'll bark. 

Chithead, it looks like it's you that's after bill's "bone". As far as "barking", all that has to happen to start you running, woofing and chasing your tail is for me to post.

Bil the two hussies joy and lmm treated poor old buffalo like dirt. If you get to register I'll be surprised.they wouldn't want you to see how hot ended they are over there amongst the heathen men over there. Posting sex is the order of the day. You would preach to them. I'm thinking about telling joys preacher on her..he would be appalled.

Bill.

You signed up July 3, but you did not ACTIVATE the account by responding to the email sent to your account.

Unless you respond, you are not registered.

Why don't you try telling the truth, you old pervert?  Want me to send Bill your comments and pictures that you posted? Or that you have pretended to be a black woman without friends, a les bi an with a body built like a brick 'outhouse', not the word you used, or that you lied and berated Joy, or that you got your friend EG to attack bluetick?  HMMM, what do you say?

Hi, Bill.  I would never exclude you.  I am so sorry that you thought that.  I wish you had sent me an email.  I would have made sure it was handled.  I originally had it set to automatic.  After registering, all you had to do was click the "ON" button at the top and sign in to post.  I have it viewable to all & I think this threw some folks off; they thought they were already signed in.  Now it's set where you click on a link in the automatic email sent to the member's email address.  I'm not sure which way it was set when you registered.  I've never had it set to where I had to choose whether or not to let someone in because all are welcome there.

 

Since Buff chose to bring this up....I did not exclude Buff, welcomed him as a matter of fact.  He was given numerous warnings.  I even said I was logging out and hoped he'd have anything deleted that might get him banned when I returned, but he instead chose to make matters worse.  This left me with no choice but to do exactly as I said I'd do if he did not stop breaking the few simple rules we have there.  His own actions, for which he alone is responsible, got him banned.  I would have preferred he do the adult thing and simply treat others with the same respect he would like to be treated.

Joy I'm calling you out on this lie.let the forum here judge buffalo.publish what he said that got him banned. You won't do it because you know you sinned. You might as well join up with deeps atheistics.

yeah lmm I had some thoughts when I saw how you and joy came on the the lesabeem. Don't deny you flirted with her. That's when joys old man signed on.lol

Ram, to be quite frank, your rep precedes you.  TVT members, who have read what you regularly post here, will not take anything you say about me seriously.

 

The Alabamian has always been and still is open for anyone to view.

Joy dear, does this mean you are going to forgive buffalo and let him back in?

I told you Joy was the nice one ramm/buff/deepfat/peter/buffpups's/redbone.....

 

For a so-called Christian MAN to pretend to be a 'les b i an' woman on a forum just to sneak in says a lot about your lack of moral character.

 

As i have said before, you are a sick perverted old man. All those comments are saved at the forum. They will stay at that forum.

 

 

LOL.

I already forgave you.  Forgiveness doesn't take away the consequences of bad choices.  It also doesn't rebuild a trust that you have broken.

Joy, what can I do to rebuild that trust? I am truly repentant. I don't want to be left behind. Please.

I don't play your childish games, rram.  For the benefit of anyone who runs across this and are sincere in wanting an answer to that question...if you are a Christian, you know you can find the answer to that in scripture.  If you are not a Christian, IMO, the wisdom you will find in scripture is still the best answer to that.  Search here... http://www.blueletterbible.org/

 

Peace out. 

Joy, what can I do to rebuild that trust? I am truly repentant. I don't want to be left behind. Please.

I don't know if you're mentally ill or on some really hard drugs or what--and I don't care. I can understand why anyone would be an atheist if you were the only Christian they ever met.

 

You've killed cats, you've called people who once were your friends: *******s, *****s, old bats, dirty in need or a bath and/or a douche, consorted with people who are scam artists, and in general denigrated anyone who seems to have a life. Yes, you've made some friends with money, but how did they get it? I think I can speak for Joy, lmm, Maxine, and others when I say we'd rather eat bread and drink water than commit the crimes your "gracious friend" has.

 

No sane person needs your friendship to make their life complete, much less Joy, lmm, or me. My friend Vick says people always show their true colors by their friendships. At this count, you've libeled (and I infer hurt) Joy beyond words at least three times--that I know of.

 

Please go away...and don't come back.

 

Now, if there should be any out there who have a larger vocabulary of certain words that they can identify rram with, please do so.

Joy, I'm still not able to get in.

Just to save that he admitted it was him.

Hiya, semi.  A little birdie told me to check back in, that you had posted here...haha.  Check your PMs in just a minute.

"oooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooGAAAAAAAAAAA!*

 

*big eyeballs like a Volkswagen*

 

 

Hi Joy,

 

I went to the site about a week or so ago and registered.   Then, for three or four days I looked for an e-mail for confirmation.  It never came.   You suggest that I should have sent you an e-mail.  I cannot for I do not have your e-mail address.   And, I cannot send you a PM (or Dialog) now -- because I have been blocked for a very long time (well over a year) from sending any PM to you. 

 

So, I just gave up since I have been very busy anyway.  At times I do not have time to keep up with the TD Religion Forum.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Yes fireall my clients have ben wealthy over the years as individuals or government agencies. Simply because the average person cannot afford my services., The difference between me and you is I knower my place when dealing with the wealthy. Whether they obtained it honestly our by hook and crook they probably deserved it because folks like you and I waste it or spend inwisely. I have met many persons over the years and I can spot a fake a long way off. If it ever seems I am talking down to anyone out is because I se e them as fakes. I don't hang out with my rich friends most of the time but with the common folks like myself and I communicate with them much different than dashes like you. I thought yourpost was a god one and  I enjoyed reading it here in Brookwood  whileeating with rich friends.

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Pfft!

 

MY rich friends can buy and sell YOUR rich friends.

 

So joy, does this Biblical reference mean I don't have achanche?

RTG may truly be the dumbest person on Earth. He really doesn't have a clue or a "chanche"sic.

Joy so true. "Forgiveness doesn't take away the consequences of bad choices.  It also doesn't rebuild a trust that you have broken"

I activated your account from my side Bill. You should be able to log in. Check your spam folder for the activation email.  A lot of times they go there.

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Rram,

 

You and I do not dialogue often; but, I cannot let this pass.  There is NO REASON whatsoever to cast personal insults like this at other members or their family.  Personally, I believe you owe LMM, Joy, and Joy's husband an apology. 

 

Rram, we can, and should, have civil discussions without personal insults.   Our Forum can be constructive, effective, and lots of fun if we stick to jousting, and even sometimes agreeing, without getting nasty or personal.  

 

This is not, in any way, meant to be a slam against you -- but, only a plea for civility within our Religion Forum discussions.  Let's all have fun, sometimes learn something, and stay Friends -- to some degree.

 

God bless, have a wonderul, blessed day,

 

Bill

Thank you, b50m!  I had apparently not looked at inactive users in a long time.  I noticed three other people registered but never activated their accounts.  Their activation emails may have been zapped by their spam filters as well.  I will try emailing them & hope my emails don't get zapped.

 

Thank you, Bill, and sorry about the mix up...hope the activation fixes you up...stop by if you find time.

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Hi B,

 

Thank you.  On my system, I always see what is going into the Spam folder before it goes there.  This is why I knew that the verification e-mail did not come in.  I appreciate your help.  "Now, I are one!"

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

 

OK Bill. I respect your judgement on this, joy,lmm and husbands

I apologize for my actions and hope y'all will forgive buffalo and find it in your hearts to let the buffalo back in.
Bill if there is anything further I need to do please advise. Please see if you can get me back in.

 

 

Pot meet kettle. Wait 'till bill posts again...you'll bark, every time.

Well chithead, since old bill posts to me as much as I do to him I'd say we're pretty much even. And again, all I have to do to get you to woof woof is post. I've never posted to you first. You might need some help with your obsession. Now hurry up, lots of people post on here, and most of them post to bill-including you. There's even one thread that is basically a "bash bill" thread so that should keep you busy howling for a while. Get cracking, you have a lot of posts to make in defense of "your man",

 

Yeah, but it's more fun posting to ya'll Rednecks.

"Ya'll" rednecks? You must be having a family reunion. Something tells me the only culture in your house is in the buttermilk.

 

 

And the only type of "class" you would have would be the one you took to get your GED.

 

Who you calling rednecks Jenn, I blew by your business in that redneck town yesterday at a high rate of speed with the top down and the music blaring. Cops were stunned. Didn’t even move. Hahaha.

 

She wouldn't have noticed anyway.  Busy trolling the TVT for bill to fart...

 

Per https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/profile ...

 

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Since reporting the posts has not worked, I have done the above.  You have always treated me fairly in the past.  I hope I can count on you to stand by your rules.  Thank you so much.

 

 

Joy dear you need to re-assess your and lmm’s actions over there.

 

Every time the atheistic men over there made some little ****ty comment it was a race between you two to claim, subtly to the author, objectivity. The lesabean character was assured she was welcome and an alternate lifestyle was of no concern and her avatar was well received. If you are the saint you want everyone to think you are you wouldn’t be on these forums flirting with the appearance of evil and certainly not hubbing up with individuals who have demonstrated they hate the thought of Jesus. To justify what you are doing is beyond me. If my wife was running a forum and associating with these blasphemers I would put a stop to it. Some of the things I do are simply to gauge reaction by individuals. It’s become like ****-ants in a jar; you are very predictable. Joy you are a spoiled brat and use religion as an excuse to get your attention.

 

I’ll bet you are a sight when you enter that church building. My suggestion is to humble yourself and respect your husband by getting out of the forum business. I have nothing personally against you Joy I just hate to see a young lady make a fool of herself. You will look back one day and see your time could have been better spent. FWIW

 

 

By the way Joy, if you are looking for something to occupy your mind constructively, research the individual in my AVATAR. He is an atheist but not the species you find on here. Get yourself a pen and a thick notepad and get a good dose of his genius. You more than likely will come out a different person.

 

Originally Posted by Rramnlimnn_TheGreat:

 

Also don’t pay attention to his self portrait as an atheistic when in the public eye regarding that subject where he becomes the village idiot. You likely wont hear the subject of atheism brought up in his lectures as he is the scientist and not the fool he is outside science.

 

 

I can’t help but like you b50 m. you are so funny.

 

You make me smile .

 

Rram, you keep projecting yourself onto others.  You like to pretend you are something you are not, but most of us are exactly who we say we are.  I have never claimed to be what you say.  I am just a sinner saved by grace.  I know my shortcomings and do not try to hide them.  Other people are kind to me and respect me because I am kind to them and respect them.  That's how it works.

 

It's hard to take your actions personally because you treat everyone with the same callous disregard.  That's why nobody believes you, because you've treated them that way as well.

 

Just so you know, I never had a problem with TNT.  I liked her because she is who she says she is regardless of other people's opinions.  I asked to be removed as Admin based on your actions.  You excluding DixieChik, who got along with everyone including TNT, while INcluding two of the biggest trouble makers at TD Forums at the time.  I did not want to be associated with that. I wasn't angry and explained to the forum why I asked to be removed.  Then you had a cussing fit and threw most of us off your forum simply for thinking this was an unfair move on your part.  You seem to have trouble remembering any instance where you are at fault, don't you?  Nah, you remember.

 

You got yourself banned at my forum by your own actions...we tried to avoid banning you, warned you, left & came back later in the hope you'd remove posts that broke the rules, but you again chose poorly and gave me no choice but to do exactly as the rules state.  You keep directing your anger over that at me when it is yourself with whom you should be angry.

 

Your lies are silly.  I know who I am, God knows who I am and we are fine as frog hair over here.  I do take great comfort in knowing that God knows who you are as well and nothing escapes his sight.  He's got my back and that is more than enough for me.

 

Please joy tell me what I said to get banned over there. Please!!!! And why are you over here trying to get me banned?

 

 

Joy, have you ever seen me get mad at anyone over here? No. look at yourself you are mad as hell. I’m callin’ something wrong with this picture. I’m laughing at your antics. Cool off. Good grief. Tag ole bill let him get after me for a while while you rest. Love ya.

 

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OK Jok give b50m a black mark, she violated your rules she brrrung your forum over here

Against your rules . I expect you to lash her.

Rramnlimnn_TheGreat Hall of Famer

Today at 11:33 AM

 

Please joy tell me what I said to get banned over there. Please!!!! And why are you over here trying to get me banned?

 

LOL.

 

Do you own this one too?

You really are schizophrenic, ain't ya?

OK Jok give b50m a black mark, she violated your rules she brrrung your forum over here

Against your rules . I expect you to lash her.

 

 

LOL, did you lash the misses for going into the evil place? Oh wait, you are a CoC wannabe. Question answered.

LMAO!

 

*wiping screen*

 

"Dis is freakin' hilarious!"

 

Rram's going 'prompt critical.'

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

no but I'm friends of the fam.

Uh huh. That's why you been banned from here so many times.

look b50 m get joy to publish the incidents preceeding being banished.

Will ya?

 

I tried to log in to see why I was banned and it said I was banned so you lied about being able to just read.

You don't log in to read, you only log in to post. You could read all the topics right? You could scan every category right?

 

Can anyone do that at your gossip site?  I did not lie, you just can't follow simple instructions.

it says I'm banned. I can't even read the index. Come on b50m unbann me joy is asleep.

I want to tell tic sumpum.

joy or you one elllllllMM has put the hex on me. I can't read anything over there.

Hey LMM , My Grandmother is going to register. Don't think it's me.

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Dear Mr. Rramm,

 

My daddy Blue saw your post and asked me to tell you to post it here and he would see it.

 

Okey Dokey

Bye

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FREE LEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My apologies ramm/buff. Since your IP"s were all banned, you are prevented from reading it.

Dang, that's just too bad.

 

You can always view it from a library, or a friend's home (you have some, right?), or take a trip to another state.

There is a paradox in here somewhere.

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tic I blame you and this renegade for the unrest over there. Y'all showed too much attention to my fishin' buddy and they could not be politically correct and scold a couple atheistics. Thats how it went down. Their combs got red when you two showed up over there.

Can you restate that so it makes sense?

 

Oh, and here is your paradox    .

 

How kute I'll wrestle you for'em.

Bro. Sam Singleton says "It wasn't atheists that made me discard Christianity, it was Christians."

 

As best as I can see, Christianity does absolutely nothing to improve anyone's character.  Nothing.

 

DF

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The blind fooling the blind.

 

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As best as I can see, Christianity does absolutely nothing to improve anyone's character.  Nothing.

 

 

 

I don't think any religion improves or degrades the person you already are. As is shown on this very thread, if you are a nasty person, claiming religion is not going to change that. If you are a good person, claiming religion is not going to change that.

 

Deep you are correct to a great degree. I’ve covered this before; I’ll cover it again.

 

Pseudo speciation on the part of one group of atheistic s or Christians or subgroups of the two see each other as ‘sub- human’ or at least less of a human than themselves. [or different religious denominations]; in the case of atheistic s the GNU’S , [new] angry atheistic s, Darwin atheistic s etc. In the mind, these less than ‘human’ , less than ‘Christians’, it doesn’t count if you ‘kill them’.

 

The more you kill off the more powerful you appear and hence the greater reproductive rewards.

 

“Under the right circumstances anyone is capable of doing something appalling.”

 

“ Some are considered ‘honor killings’”.

 

A solution to this dilemma can be reciprocal altruism which can be prompted by pseudo kinship as we saw recently on a thread where “WILLIE stated: “

lets just make peace!!!

it's all gonna be ok... just let it go under the bridge... i sure wish you could make peace!

 

karma and crow sandwiches for everyone!!! “

 

Agood example of “Sapolsky’s waterhole” analogy.

 

There are reasons for this type behavior much to lengthy to go into here.

 

What I have said above comes from my notes taken from a series of on line lectures by Robert Sapolsky at Stanford University.. The series is lengthy and requires a few weeks to listen to and take notes. Several requires listening to more than once for me.

 

Dr Sapolsky is a genius and this series on human behavior is a must. [the character in my avatar]

 

I will further state: if one has not been educated on this level by Sapolsky and others there is really no reason to post blind speculation on here as to human behavior.

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Actually INV you have put such a GREAT truth into so few words. 

Hmm...judging by his comments in this thread, I'm thinking that ramm got banned because he acted like the south end of a north bound mule.

 

Listen to this Sapolsky lecture then go to # 1 and listen to them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLE71i4JJiM&feature=channel

It is sad to see when people are wrong. 

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Rram is very capable of that but in most cases it is intellectual falcony.

One never knows what tender morsel will step into the open unarmed.

 

B50m is covered in talon marks.

 

I don't know why but for some reason I kept having flashbacks of the Adam Sandler movie "The Waterboy" okay given that the professor was older and had snow white hair instead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC4u5GCy3I

 

And of course the one that was recommended to watch

 

 

my apologies Rramnlimnn as I know you didn't post this is jest and yet some smartellic comes along and post something like I did but just trying a little bit of levity.

Originally Posted by canade:

LOL, thanks Canade.  I needed that.

 

Where have you been b50m?

 

I’ll bet you’ve been over there waiting on my g-maw to register.

First you say Joy and I are stalking you, now you wonder where we went?

 

As for your gmaw, she must be 120 by now.  Good for here.She can sign up any time she wants too as long as she doesn't use any of your IP's.

 

Or have a trash mouth like her grandson.

 

b50m dear have you never heard of using your smart phone as a wireless hub?

M g-maw can get on over there anyole time darlin. It has billions and billions of IP's.

You can never block them all l'il gurl.

sides, i don't want on over there anymore , tic has given y'all fleas.

Next thing yall will be caughing with parvo.

 

iz liv behavin'?

WOW!  Are there any "sane" people in this forum?

You people have some serious issues.

Have any of you ever tried "counseling"?

 

I take a interest in telling people her the truth.

They dont sound insane just confused and sometimes

wrong .

I will help them to understand the way in a spritual kindness.

Love will show the way.

Never heard of it. What weird function is being concocted over there as we speak?

If it involves varmits jus keep it to yourself.

Look it up.

One thing I have always been curious about, regarding Creation or Intelligent Design is just what it is about both that seems to scare the heck out of the Evolutionist folks that they seek their best to disqualify any scientist or teachers/professors that happen to believe in such? 

 

As for Creation is it really that you feel it would violate separation of Church and State or is it that you cannot stomach the possibility that somewhere in the discussion the word GOD and Creator will appear once or more? 

 

I still believe that Creation and Intelligent Design or an Intelligent Source should be taught as competing theories as to how life got here and allow individuals the right to exercise their minds and make up their own decisions.  All one has to do is view Ben Stein's Expelled to see that there is a huge bias against those who do not accept Evolution. 

 

bWe are teaching assumptions all the time.  Science, as I have heard it from NatGeo and History International programs, knows very little about our Earth's core and the bottom of the Ocean yet we teach what we assume to be there and expect to be there without having dogmatic facts.  As more research is done and new things discovered then what is being taught is altered.  Evolution is still very much a theory but due to the fact that other competing theories are prohibited from sharing the stage with Evolution it is somehow given more credence than just a theory.

 

Why is it that this is such an explosive subject that competing theories have to be totally squelched as for those who believe against evolution?

 

 

 

 

There are competing YouTube videos that question Expelled as false and not truthful but the persons making those are also biased and there appears an agenda behind them.  It's a you said/he said type thing but the veracity at which hairs raise on the backs is amazing.  It's as if you were talking about someone's Mother.  If Expelled contains some errors it also contains much truth but the videos against it have not had to stand up to the same critique and have no fact checkers so they get away with saying anything they want.  Is there a concerted effort, in the scientific world to squelch other competing theories?  If one takes this forum, which is by no means scientific, then it's reasonable to assume it is true that there is, at least in my opinion that's the case..

For all those very certain of the indis****ble Science and that it is absolute FACT can you explain the Scientist or experts in this video?  

 

So IF God is not responsible and Evolution IS fact and indis****ble then where did it all began?  How did it all began?   Creationist say God Created without having to explain the exact process and as for the beginning?  Answer is God Always existed without a beginning in a Spiritual Realm that has no Physical properties and brought about the physical from potentially what some call God's Mind / God Thought.

 

 

Also gbrk I will point out. All scientists agree we know very little about our nearest star, THE SUN.

 

…………and the big bang is fact? I’ve yet to see anyone with other than hand waving arguments to it’s being fact. I have no problem with a big bang but I’m not going to compromise the truth daubing in a few billion years. If one listens to as many 60 hour lectures as myself from the worlds leading scientists you eventually find the closer one gets to the big bang the more the evidence is assumed. The scientific world is not in agreement after a certain point. I used to think there were a few on the forum that might be interested in knowing the truth but that turned out to be untrue. So let the unois and nsnses continue on rubbing ignorance off on the ditto heads and Adots in the world.

 

We just keep on believing in God. Self evident is God.

 

Not to mention those who do subscribe to the Creation (by God) theory do not have to know the intricate details that God used to bring it all about.  It is a given and accepted that a process was used but the hows, whys, wheres and all are absorbed into Faith. 

 

Even if I did not subscribe to Creation, by God, I would be wanting to rely upon some Intelligent or more Intelligent source.  What would be frighting is if all this was an accident, without any Intelligent guidance.  Regardless of if you get into parallel Universes through black holes and the like you still have to come to some origin if you choose some non-God source for the event. 

 

As for God we accept that God always existed and for me that existence was in a Spiritual form and Spiritual Realm with no Physical properties.   It is mind numbing enough to try and comprehend Eternity past and Eternity future with time falling out of the equation.  Add to that NO Beginning or origin and it is, in my mind and opinion, an inconceivable process which the inherent limitations of our human minds cannot grasp, conceive, or envision.

All scientists agree we know very little about the sun?????? Sheesh.

Worth quoting to see it again!  Joy, I responded to your email requesting the activation email be resent.  Like Bill, I think mine was sucked into the spam filter.  Thanks for the email reminding me.  Looks like Ive missed the fun.  No worries, I guess, it all comes back here eventually and I lurk here from time to time.  I have been so busy this summer I have to prioritize my extracurricular activities ;o)

Hey RP!  Ready to hit the road, summers almost over!

 

Normally I miss all the good stuff because I lurk and dont read every day.  So when all the good stuff goes down, its deleted by the time I log on.  Its unusual for the personal attacks to go on for so long. Makes me think that maybe Rramn is related to someone at the paper.  Maybe the person specifically mentioned in the blog about this topic.  Sure, they ban him and ::wink wink:: he comes back again.  

 

Did Jetboy ever find his way back?  I havent seen his signature LEO hatred posts.  Maybe some local LEO pulled him over and 'found' a couple of keys in the trunk.  Wouldnt that be ironic 

I activated your account James T. You should be able to log in and post.

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What about buffalo? b50m.

They kill buffalos don't they? Over there.

 

btw who is this cpn james? T?

The great Capt James T, Commander of the Starship Enterprise.  Boldly going where no one should ever go!

 

You know me Rramn, I was prevented from joining your forum along with Dixie once upon a time for not being in the right 'group' of people.  And like Joy will probably be, I was rejected by the local establishment here for questioning their wisdom.  Moderation - so easy even a caveman can do it......

Bahahaha that's funny right there. If Leo was here he would get a kick out of that.......buttttttttt...... Leo ain't here, is he!!!
Free Leo!

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captn, I do remember the dixie incident but not you. give me a hint. The forum is open if you want to get even.
Are you an atheist? Give me a hint as to your past. don't be scared.

I gave you all kinds of hints in my previous post.....

 

Capt James T........

So easy, even a caveman can do it.......

my avatar........

 

Most everyone here knows who I am, even Jetboy figured it out long ago......

Even me and Capt Kirk could figure it out.

 

Juggie thinks I am, but I am not......

Well I never knew jetboy. You've got me scratching my head.

never knew jetboy aka mysterymeat aka tool aka shaniqua aka (help me out here folks)........

 

He was the best known troll of the TD forums.......

 

How did you not know jetboy?

 

I think I've had this discussion already with the artist previously known as buffalo here on the TD forums.......

i knew of his antics but i didn't respond to anything he said. H e never came within my reference frame.

....but you must have. Other than not letting you in i hope i was kind to you.

Other than not letting you in i hope i was kind to you.

We didnt cross paths, I was friendly with certain people you did not like at the time is all I can assume.  Dixie was one.  I really didnt know who anyone was back then, I talked with everyone for the most part.  I was too new to know the back stories. 

 

Fortunately, now I do.......

….and I was never a sci-fi fan so I never watched Star Trek other than incidentally.

I actually detested the show.

 

Do you play guitar?

I know someone who plays a blueridge guitar, why do you ask?

 

I bet you have fleas too....(wink wink)

 

Unpound the Hound!

       

 

 

Since TVT refuses to make you abide by their rule to not attack another member and you continue to attack my character without cause...

 

You lie as easily as breathe, don't you?  The problem with your forum was you, not Dixie, not TNT, not Monet, not Carmen and not me...just you and your poor judgment.  I wasn't even angry, let alone postal.  My posts were tactful even when you had a cussing fit and proceeded to ban most of your members.

 

You had plenty to say about Dixie at the time for someone who does not know her...you insisted she was part of the Black Sheep and participated in some instance where they were mean to TNT.  I told you that I knew Dixie offline & that you were mistaken, but you would not listen to reason.  It was the unfair decision on your part of admitting two people who caused trouble at TD while excluding someone who had done nothing wrong that made me asked to be removed as Admin.  It was never about anything else but your poor judgment.

 

You appear to be a horrible person, most likely insane and definitely obsessed.  Get a life already.

              

Joy, you don’t like Monet and Carmen? Give me a break. They are true Christians and you are a hypocrite.

Two of the most wonderful ladies I’ve met on the forum.

The Dixie incident was not about those two but I researched and she had been out spoken against TNT. That is why she was not allowed in.

You’ve got your li’l secret forum over there; stay in it.

You thought it was cute to side with basement cat against Monet for no reason . So you got your cat, I chose Monet.

B50m, I believe she meant to be hateful to me. Whadduthink?

Monet? Monet? Monet? Oh, that would be the "Christian" who had about 50 identities on the old TD forum so that she could libel her boyfriend's ex-wife?

 

Carmen? Carmen? Let me think...Oh, yes, she's the one with her own forum who registered as me, stating I was bi-sexual, into God only knows what, and then threatened to call my employer concerning my decadent life style. Would that be that same Carmen? The one that I had to report to the District Attorney's Office? The one that is involved in a certain big time scam at present?

 

Just what is your definition of a Christian, rram. I'm eager to hear it.