Sofa, you know what is the point.
Anthony Johnson a free black man when he died in 1670 Virgina had the land that he had given to his son taken away because he was a "negro" Here is the court document.
By virtue of a writt granted to me from [names listed here, which are illegible] John Stringer Escheator for the countys of Northhampton and Accomack to enquire what lands Anthonio Johnson late of Accomack County either in his life tyme. . . a jury of free. . . in the said Accomack County to enquire. . . doth declare that the said Anthony Johnson lately deceased in his life tyme was seized of fifty acres of land now in the possession of Rich. Johnson in the County of Accomack aforesaid and further that the said Anthony Johnson was a negro and by consequence an alien and for that cause the said land doth escheat to this . . . .
And this;
History.org
1680-1705: Slave Laws Reflect racism and the Deliberate Separation of Blacks and Whites. Color becomes the Determining Factor. Conscious Efforts to Police Slave Conduct Rigidly.
1680 -- Prescription of thirty lashes on the bare back "if any negroe or other slave shall presume to lift up his hand against any Christian."
1680's -- Development of a separate legal code providing distinct trial procedures and harsher punishments for negroes.
1680's -- Status of the child is determined by the status or condition of the mother.
1680's -- Severe punishment for slaves who leave their master's property or for hiding or resisting capture.
1691 -- Banishment for any white person married to a negroe or mulatto and approved a systematic plan to capture "outlying slaves."
1705 -- All negroe, mulatto, and Indian slaves shall be held, taken, and adjudged to be real estate.
1705 -- Dismemberment of unruly slaves was made legal.
So what say you Rram? Was there racism before Darwin or not?
I think you know that many other people and things contributed to the rise of racism. I don't know why you want to lay it all at the feet of Darwin. Actually while looking into this subject I found that capitalism probably played a much bigger role in racism than did Darwin's theory of evolution ever could. Most people that thought of blacks as property or somehow inferior to whites were white christian plantation owners who would stop at nothing to make a dollar.
By virtue of a writt granted to me from [names listed here, which are illegible] John Stringer Escheator for the countys of Northhampton and Accomack to enquire what lands Anthonio Johnson late of Accomack County either in his life tyme. . . a jury of free. . . in the said Accomack County to enquire. . . doth declare that the said Anthony Johnson lately deceased in his life tyme was seized of fifty acres of land now in the possession of Rich. Johnson in the County of Accomack aforesaid and further that the said Anthony Johnson was a negro and by consequence an alien and for that cause the said land doth escheat to this . . . .
And this;
History.org
1680-1705: Slave Laws Reflect racism and the Deliberate Separation of Blacks and Whites. Color becomes the Determining Factor. Conscious Efforts to Police Slave Conduct Rigidly.
1680 -- Prescription of thirty lashes on the bare back "if any negroe or other slave shall presume to lift up his hand against any Christian."
1680's -- Development of a separate legal code providing distinct trial procedures and harsher punishments for negroes.
1680's -- Status of the child is determined by the status or condition of the mother.
1680's -- Severe punishment for slaves who leave their master's property or for hiding or resisting capture.
1691 -- Banishment for any white person married to a negroe or mulatto and approved a systematic plan to capture "outlying slaves."
1705 -- All negroe, mulatto, and Indian slaves shall be held, taken, and adjudged to be real estate.
1705 -- Dismemberment of unruly slaves was made legal.
So what say you Rram? Was there racism before Darwin or not?
I think you know that many other people and things contributed to the rise of racism. I don't know why you want to lay it all at the feet of Darwin. Actually while looking into this subject I found that capitalism probably played a much bigger role in racism than did Darwin's theory of evolution ever could. Most people that thought of blacks as property or somehow inferior to whites were white christian plantation owners who would stop at nothing to make a dollar.
Jank
I can see where the untrained eye might see these laws as racist if you factor out the fear these slave owners had for slaves. Historically slaves were feared not as animals but because of their invention.
Take away all rights from a group of individuals and they become slaves .
The difference in Darwin and these laws?
Darwin made it a studied and believed science.
Slaves before scientific enlightenment were conquered property .
It would be interesting to view the world without a Darwin.
Would we be better or worse?
[quote Jank]Most people that thought of blacks as property or somehow inferior to whites were white christian plantation owners who would stop at nothing to make a dollar.
Lol. No one else was here but Native Americans and they took captives for slaves themselves.
I can see where the untrained eye might see these laws as racist if you factor out the fear these slave owners had for slaves. Historically slaves were feared not as animals but because of their invention.
Take away all rights from a group of individuals and they become slaves .
The difference in Darwin and these laws?
Darwin made it a studied and believed science.
Slaves before scientific enlightenment were conquered property .
It would be interesting to view the world without a Darwin.
Would we be better or worse?
[quote Jank]Most people that thought of blacks as property or somehow inferior to whites were white christian plantation owners who would stop at nothing to make a dollar.
Lol. No one else was here but Native Americans and they took captives for slaves themselves.
quote:As we all know I am apparently completely head over hills for BJBG.
*double blush*
Ok rram, I give. I will not say you have won this debate, because I don't believe you have. I will only say that it is pointless to continue.
There is no way to prove anything to someone who just flat out refuses to accept honest and verifiable proof. Its like arguing with a child. Stupid.
There is no way to prove anything to someone who just flat out refuses to accept honest and verifiable proof. Its like arguing with a child. Stupid.
jank,
Luv, you can't argue with a sick mind.
Luv, you can't argue with a sick mind.
Jank Dear,
Is this a debate where one side is declared the winner.
I thought we were inquiring as to what may be the truth.
Bjbg has taught you that your answers preclude anyone asking another question.
Now that is childish.
I have had two developments today in my assessment to understand you.
I’ll have to say this post pales when compared to the visit to the nursing home post.
I was floored and my head is spinning as I contemplate that one.
If you insist on being coached by billy bob I want back my jacket.
Is this a debate where one side is declared the winner.
I thought we were inquiring as to what may be the truth.
Bjbg has taught you that your answers preclude anyone asking another question.
Now that is childish.
I have had two developments today in my assessment to understand you.
I’ll have to say this post pales when compared to the visit to the nursing home post.
I was floored and my head is spinning as I contemplate that one.
If you insist on being coached by billy bob I want back my jacket.
The truth....you can't handle the truth. *snicker*
Oh Rrama-lama-ding-dong,
You have to accept that these are my own thoughts and feelings. I am not coached by anyone. Don't you think that I would be much better at getting my point across if I had help?
Please don't make me choose. I love you both for different reasons.
Oh Rrama-lama-ding-dong,
You have to accept that these are my own thoughts and feelings. I am not coached by anyone. Don't you think that I would be much better at getting my point across if I had help?
Please don't make me choose. I love you both for different reasons.
Jank,
You could love me as a great grandfather too if you would only try.
You could love me as a great grandfather too if you would only try.
Y'all were having so much fun that I wasn't going to mention it, but now you've done gone all mushy...blech! patooey!...lol...
...racism is mentioned in the Bible - Samaritans, for one.
...at least I think they were of a different race...at the very least they experienced prejudicial treatment because of the group they belonged to rather than who they were as individuals.
...racism is mentioned in the Bible - Samaritans, for one.
...at least I think they were of a different race...at the very least they experienced prejudicial treatment because of the group they belonged to rather than who they were as individuals.quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
http://laughingsquid.com/what-...n-your-neighborhood/
LMMFAO! Dude, that is too funny. I agree...just walk away...very slowly..no fast moves. hahaha
BJBG,
Your link didn't mention this, but maybe avoiding eye contact would be advisable. And if your neighborhood has a history of atheist invasion, the buddy system might be in order. Just a thought.
GL
Your link didn't mention this, but maybe avoiding eye contact would be advisable. And if your neighborhood has a history of atheist invasion, the buddy system might be in order. Just a thought.
GL
Jank loves me!!
I feel welcomed and loved.
I feel welcomed and loved.
Uhh dark,
I think bjbg was trying to be serious.
Why don’t you wait for someone else to laugh first.
I think bjbg was trying to be serious.
Why don’t you wait for someone else to laugh first.
quote:Originally posted by rramlimnn:
Jank,
You could love me as a great grandfather too if you would only try.
Oh snap! That was kinda mean rrammy.
You would have to be well over a hundred for that to be so. You know I can't believe the unbelievable. No matter how hard I try.
quote:Originally posted by GreenLady:
Jank loves me!!
I feel welcomed and loved.
You are! As I said I feel we have a similar story. Plus I just like the way you say things.
Keep looking with your eyes wide open.
“Truth springs from argument amongst friends.”[Hume]
Good nite friends.
Good nite friends.
quote:Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
http://laughingsquid.com/what-...n-your-neighborhood/
LOL