DF,
Then why waste so much time on Him?
Because he might actually be willing to enter into a conversation. He might even give me his best efforts. I want to see them.
I have no time for those who are certain of the nonexistent. They are fools and incapable of using their brains. gb is willing to engage me in the intellectual field of honor, and I look forward to it. His talent is rare, since intellect and religion coincide with such infrequency.
DF
Deep, It is from Christians/believers/people of faith whom you will derive physical type conversations with. It is from us whom you will engage in debate or cerebral stimulation if you will for as I have said before: I believe God deals with people/individuals on a much more personal and intimate way. I fully believe God deals with a person from inside out rather than outside in and in doing so leaves no doubt as to the source of the communication. Who, other than the Creator (God) could manipulate a person's own body in such profound/unexplainable ways? Until it happens to the specific person the only explanation a non-believer can rationalize is that it is some delusion for there is no other scientific explanation for it.
Yes it is from other forum members and people that you will achieve mental stimulation or debate from but it is my belief that proof, verifiable proof, can only come from God and that means it will not come through words or external stimuli but will come from inside your own mind/body/being in a way that is indis****ble and undeniable. For that reason alone no one ever will convince you or anyone else that God exist sufficiently to warrant your change in beliefs. To believe otherwise is to put far too much credit in one's own merits and abilities.
I will make you this promise, Deep. I will continue to try and answer questions and debate my positions as opportunity arises. I will continue to try and be civil and respectful toward all people of opposing beliefs and adequately represent "people of faith" and reasons for which we maintain that faith. I will also promise you that I have and will continue to pray for you and others on the forum in hope that God will do just what you say you want Him to. I know there are many people here and reading the forum who never contribute but yet have needs they are looking for answers for. You may have a post or I might or someone else that speaks to these people or that can be used to help a specific need. I believe as we remain respectful we remain viable to our respective positions. We also are both aware (hopefully) that there are other forum members here, participants, who do not do our respective positions their best. I'm sure there are valid reasons for their efforts (or valid to the respective person) but are not representative of our own positions or beliefs. Therefore do me the favor of making your judgments, regarding God, to those personal interactions with God and not with people (including myself) who represent God/Christ/Christianity.
If you, or any other non-believer, never have/has that intimate relationship with God then you have your reinforcement for your non-belief or atheism however to use one of us, another Christian, or believer to develop theories and basis of belief about God upon is unjust to God/Christ and frankly unjust to your own selves. You can only share with me or others about experiences you have but until we have exactly that same experience, visit that same place, etc we cannot truly appreciate the experience or act for we haven't been there or done that. Likewise I understand the same applies to God/Christ. Until you have personally had the encounter you cannot appreciate it nor can you trust it is anything other than a delusion or some self conceived event. I fully can respect that.
I fully believe God deals with a person from inside out rather than outside in and in doing so leaves no doubt as to the source of the communication. Isn't that convenient? By that definition, only you have the means to acknowledge the truth. But let's just say that I grant you your conviction. It still does absolutely nothing to convince anyone else of the truth of god, and most certainly does not give one the right to create and maintain a theocracy such as Alabama has become.
The truth of your inner god is far from indisput-able. (funny censors we have here... in Spanish, for the love of pete... oy, vey) Indeed, billions of Muslims, Buddhists, Scientologists, Mormons, atheists, and for all we know, whales dispute it every day. The geographic propensities of religion are one reason why the gods are most necessarily man-made.
At work, more later.
DF