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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Just a question, and I have no idea what the correct answer is. How many cops are killed in the line of duty each year and how many people do cops kill in the line of duty?

Hopefully far less than the criminal element they have to deal with.   I laugh at the special talk the media is saying blacks have to have with their kids.  In reality it does not have to be any different than the way I was taught.  Rule number one comply with instructions, be polite, and even if you do not agree do not challenge or threaten the officer wait for court.   Of course trying not to break the law helps.  I hope body cameras become standard issue as they are more often used against the criminals and helps keep the 1% bad apple officers in check.   Listen I agree there are bad officers and they should be dealt with but like ALL professions I do not judge all by the actions of the bad few.

 I hope body cameras become standard issue as they are more often used against the criminals and helps keep the 1% bad apple officers in check.   

Hi, I have wished for body cameras, and if an officer has trouble with his camera each time there is a complaint, check him out. 1% bad apples, maybe its that high. the bad apples will tend to seek each other out, and will make the whole bunch look bad. If a body camera would have been in use in Ferguson, it may not have changed the outcome, but the truth would be known.

When you're on the highway and pass or meet 500 trucks, then 1 drives bad, you are mad at the whole bunch. It's the same way with police.

Jt most of the truth is know Brown was a criminal who attacked a Police officer in his car resulting in the officers gun being discharged.   Browns actions that day caused his unfortunate death.

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That's the polices story. Some of the witnesses told a different story. One side lied. The body camera would tell the truth. By the way, the police had at least one incident, on a phone camera, of wrong doing.

Jt. You sound like the goofy  a s  s that was interviewed on CNN,  he was asked what should be done since the physical evidence supported the officers claims, he responded that Brown's death was still a miscarriage of justice. Only an idiot would think that a person should be able to rob a store and not have to answer for it. Brown's death was preventable by Brown. He should have kept his hands to himself.
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Jt most of the truth is know Brown was a criminal who attacked a Police officer in his car resulting in the officers gun being discharged.   Browns actions that day caused his unfortunate death.

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That's the polices story. Some of the witnesses told a different story. One side lied. The body camera would tell the truth. By the way, the police had at least one incident, on a phone camera, of wrong doing.

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What witness told a different story? His partner in crime? You do know those witnesses testified at the grand jury. I want someone to make me believe the officer just decided to execute an innocent man in front of witnesses. It's complete BS. All these killer cops doing this in plain site knowing their lives will be ruined, riots will follow, their families put in danger? How stupid are we supposed to be? IF they were such killer cops I think the street thugs and career criminals, known to all the cops, would just suddenly disappear.

Last edited by Bestworking

Just a question, and I have no idea what the correct answer is. How many cops are killed in the line of duty each year and how many people do cops kill in the line of duty?

 

This is what started this discussion. I haven't seen anyone's answer. I sure have got bad comments about me, not one posting of the number killed by policemen.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Just a question, and I have no idea what the correct answer is. How many cops are killed in the line of duty each year and how many people do cops kill in the line of duty?

 

This is what started this discussion. I haven't seen anyone's answer. I sure have got bad comments about me, not one posting of the number killed by policemen.

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Well gee, bud gave you a link so you could search and find your own answers. You always accuse others of lying, then when they give you proof you act like you didn't see it. So why should anyone do your work for you? Click on bud's link and go to a re putable site. It's so easy a child could do it, so maybe even you can master the click!

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by prissy442:

It's taken society over two centuries to mold certain segments of society into what we are seeing expressed by them today. The youth are just products of pitiful conservative holy rollers.  

QD, I would think liberal Democrats are to blame for keeping blacks on welfare and government housing. What would conservative Christians have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Just a question, and I have no idea what the correct answer is. How many cops are killed in the line of duty each year and how many people do cops kill in the line of duty?

 

This is what started this discussion. I haven't seen anyone's answer. I sure have got bad comments about me, not one posting of the number killed by policemen.

 

 

Where are all those bad comments?

 

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

He doesn't understand how Google works. 

He's not interested in finding out either. He's the typical gimmethat, wanting cradle to grave care AND now someone to do his internet searches for him. If he doesn't like the results, he just says you're lying and/or being mean to him. Give him proof, he ignores it and moves to his next asinine post/thread.

 

Last edited by Bestworking

IS THIS ENOUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO DO RESEARCH?

There is more than enough information here to satisfy those who demand numbers!

 

From: National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund:

 

 http://www.nleomf.org/facts/of...ities-data/year.html

 

Officer Deaths by Year

Year-by-Year Breakdown of Law Enforcement Deaths throughout U.S. History

 

 

YearOfficersYearOfficers
1791
1
  
1792
1
1918
158
1794
1
1919
211
1797
1
1920
192
180411921235
1806
1
1922
231
1808
4
1923
219
1810
1
1924
259
1811
1
1925
240
1814
1
1926
234
1816
2
1927
267
1818
1
1928
249
1823
2
1929
264
1825
2
1930
297
1827
1
1931
259
1828
1
1932
272
1830
1
1933
226
1836
4
1934
235
1838
1
1935
216
1839
2
1936
191
1840
1
1937
187
1841
1
1938
188
1842
1
1939
121
1843
2
1940
132
1844
2
1941
141
1845
4
1942
122
1847
2
1943
85
1848
1
1944
91
1849
3
1945
113
1850
3
1946
138
1851
5
1947
125
1852
5
1948
138
1853
7
1949
104
1854
10
1950
114
1855
8
1951
134
1856
8
1952
117
1857
14
1953
118
1858
12
1954
134
1859
9
1955
117
1860
9
1956
109
1861
9
1957
117
1862
5
1958
112
1863
10
1959
110
1864
11
1960
129
1865
10
1961
140
1866
15
1962
139
1867
17
1963
138
1868
17
1964
149
1869
27
1965
138
1870
21
1966
161
1871
20
1967
191
1872
24
1968
191
1873
21
1969
194
1874
25
1970
219
1875
14
1971
247
1876
27
1972
228
1877
18
1973
275
1878
44
1974
280
1879
24
1975
238
1880
30
1976
201
1881
42
1977
192
1882
44
1978
215
1883
38
1979
215
1884
40
1980
206
1885
53
1981
203
1886
45
1982
195
1887
37
1983
193
1888
55
1984
182
1889
39
1985
176
1890
56
1986
178
1891
53
1987
183
1892
63
1988
195
1893
55
1989
196
1894
60
1990
159
1895
57
1991
148
1896
45
1992
161
1897
46
1993
158
1898
69
1994
179
1899
63
1995
183
1900
68
1996
140
1901
79
1997
172
1902
86
1998
171
1903
84
1999
144
1904
79
2000
162
1905
72
2001
241
1906
76
2002
157
1907
92
2003
150
1908
121
2004
165
1909
87
2005
163
1910
94
2006
156
1911
128
2007
191
1912
103
2008
147
1913
112
2009
125
1914
116
2010
161
1915
130
2011
171
1916
154
2012
122
1917
165
2013
100

TOTAL: 20,267
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/
Figures updated April 14, 2014

 

FROM THE SAME SOURCE, BREAKING DOWN FIREARMS-RELATED AND OTHER DEATHS:

 

Preliminary 2014 Law Enforcement Officer Fatalities

Jan. 1 through Dec. 15, 2014 vs. Jan. 1 through Dec. 15, 2013

 2014 
2013% Change
Total Fatalities11590+28%
Firearms-related4627+70%
Traffic-related4439+13%
Other Causes2524+4%
Please note: These numbers reflect total officer fatalities comparing
Jan. 1 through Dec. 15, 2014 vs. Jan. 1 through Dec. 15, 2013

 

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/

 

 

The link below covers in detail deaths of law enforcement officers while on duty from numerous causes, including shooting.  The period 2010-2014 is covered in detail and numerous prior years are also referenced. The link lists earlier deaths first.   To find the 2010-2014 lists, scroll down a way on the link.  As with the above, there are considerably more deaths from the other causes than from gunfire.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L..._in_the_line_of_duty

 

2010-2014 

2014 

End of WatchNameDepartmentCause of Death
2014-1-21Detective Sergeant Tom Smith[58]Bay Area Rapid Transit Police Department, CAGunfire (Accidental)
2014-1-23Police Officer Kristian Willhight[59]Burns Flat Police Department, OKVehicle pursuit
2014-1-23Undersheriff Brian Beck[60]Wa****a County Sheriff's Office, OKVehicle pursuit
2014-1-26Sergeant David Baldwin[61]Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, COMotorcycle accident
2014-1-27Animal Control Officer Eddie Maurice Hamer[62]Hardeman County Sheriff's Office, TNAutomobile accident
2014-1-30Sergeant Cory Wride[63]Utah County Sheriff's Office, UTGunfire
2014-1-31Deputy Sheriff Percy Lee House, III[64]Greensville County Sheriff's Office, VAAutomobile accident
2014-2-11Deputy Sheriff Jonathan Scott Pine[65]Orange County Sheriff's Office, FLGunfire
2014-2-16Correctional Officer Amanda Baker[66]Scotts Bluff County Detention Center, NEAssault
2014-2-17Officer Brian Law[67]California Highway Patrol, CAAutomobile accident
2014-2-17Officer Juan Gonzalez[68]California Highway Patrol, CAAutomobile accident
2014-3-3Detective John Hobbs[69]Phoenix Police Department, AZGunfire
2014-3-7Police Officer III Nicholas Choung Lee[70]Los Angeles Police Department, CAAutomobile accident
2014-3-10Agent Joaquín Correa-Ortega[71]Puerto Rico Police Department, PRGunfire
2014-3-12Officer Jason Crisp[72]United States Department of Agriculture - Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations, USGunfire
2014-3-14Police Officer Marc Uland Kelley[73]Trinity University Police Department, TXHeart attack
2014-3-17Chief Deputy Sheriff Pete Richardson[74]Lafayette County Sheriff's Office, ARVehicular assault
2014-3-17Police Officer James Morrissy[75]Oak Forest Police Department, ILAutomobile accident
2014-3-19Deputy Sheriff Ricky Del Fiorentino[76]Mendocino County Sheriff's Office, CAGunfire
2014-3-22Police Officer Robert German[77]Windermere Police Department, FLGunfire
2014-3-24Master-at-Arms Mark Mayo[78]United States Navy Security Forces, USGunfire
2014-3-24Officer Mark H. Larson[79]Jacksonville Sheriff's Office, FLVehicular assault
2014-3-31Police Officer Alexander Thalmann[80]New Bern Police Department, NCGunfire
2014-3-31Police Officer David W. Smith[81]Johnson City Police Department, NYGunfire
2014-4-1Police Officer Gregg Maloney[82]Plymouth Police Department, MAMotorcycle accident
2014-4-2Deputy Sheriff Ernest T. Franklin[83]Barren County Sheriff's Office, KYAutomobile accident
2014-4-9Police Officer Dennis Guerra[84]New York City Police Department, NYFire
2014-4-9Police Officer II Chris Cortijo[85]Los Angeles Police Department, CAVehicular assault
2014-4-10Agent Marielis Morales-Santiago[86]Puerto Rico Police Department, PRAutomobile accident
2014-4-14Deputy Sheriff Michael J. Seversen[87]Polk County Sheriff's Office, WIGunfire
2014-4-18Deputy Sheriff William Heath Kelley[88]Covington County Sheriff's Office, ALAutomobile accident
2014-4-28Deputy Sheriff Bryan Marshall Berger[89]Spotsylvania County Sheriff's Office, VAHeart attack
2014-5-1Trooper Gabriel Rich[90]Alaska State Troopers, AKGunfire
2014-5-1Sergeant Patrick Scott Johnson[91]Alaska State Troopers, AKGunfire
2014-5-3Police Officer II Roberto C. Sanchez[92]Los Angeles Police Department, CAVehicular assault
2014-5-3Trooper Chelsea Richard[93]Florida Highway Patrol, FLStruck by vehicle
2014-5-4Police Officer Noel Lee Hawk[94]Eatonton Police Department, GAHeart attack
2014-5-9Master Sergeant John Collum[95]Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks, MSVehicular assault
2014-5-10Police Officer Michael Alexander Petrina[96]Metro Nashville Police Department, TNStruck by vehicle
2014-5-11Detective Charles Dinwiddie[97]Killeen Police Department, TXGunfire
2014-5-12Patrolman Stephen Arkell[98]Brentwood Police Department, NHGunfire
2014-5-21Deputy Sheriff Steven LaCruz "Cruz" Thomas[99]Franklin County Sheriff's Office, GAAutomobile accident
2014-5-21Correctional Officer Chad Charles[100]Michigan Department of Corrections, MIHeart attack
2014-5-24Police Officer Jair Cabrera[101]Salt River Police Department, TRGunfire
2014-5-28Border Patrol Agent Alexander Giannini[102]United States Department of Homeland Security - Customs and Border Protection - United States Border Patrol, USAutomobile accident
2014-5-29Trooper Christopher Skinner[103]New York State Police, NYVehicular assault
2014-5-29Special Deputy Marshal Frank McKnight[104]United States Department of Justice - United States Marshals Service, USStruck by vehicle
2014-5-30Police Officer Brian Jones[105]Norfolk Police Department, VAGunfire
2014-5-30Sergeant Paul Buckles[106]Potter County Sheriff's Office, TXHeart attack
2014-5-31Police Officer Kevin Dorian Jordan[107]Griffin Police Department, GAGunfire
2014-6-2Sergeant Daryl Giles[108]Philadelphia School Police Department, PAHeart attack
2014-6-8Police Officer Igor Soldo[109]Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, NVGunfire
2014-6-8Police Officer Alyn Beck[110]Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, NVGunfire
2014-6-11Police Officer Scott Hewell[111]Stockton Police Department, CAAutomobile accident
2014-6-19Chief of Police Lee Dixon[112]Little River-Academy Police Department, TXGunfire
2014-6-23Deputy Sheriff Allen Bares, Jr.[113]Vermilion Parish Sheriff's Office, LAGunfire
2014-6-28Deputy Sheriff Jacob Daniel Calvin[114]Tipton County Sheriff's Office, INAutomobile accident
2014-7-5Officer Perry W. Renn[115]Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, INGunfire
2014-7-6Patrolman Jeffrey Brady Westerfield[116]Gary Police Department, INGunfire
2014-7-13Detective Melvin Santiago[117]Jersey City Police Department, NJGunfire
2014-7-17Police Officer Christopher Goodell[118]Waldwick Police Department, NJAutomobile accident
2014-7-30Police Officer Scott Patrick[119]Mendota Heights Police Department, MNGunfire
2014-8-12Sheriff Mark A. Hecker[120]Butler County Sheriff's Office, NEHeart attack
2014-8-12Lieutenant Patrick Libertone[121]Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, CAHeart attack
2014-8-14Deputy Sheriff Joseph James Dunn[122]Cascade County Sheriff's Office, MTVehicular assault
2014-8-23Chief of Police Michael Pimentel[123]Elmendorf Police Department, TXGunfire
2014-8-25Agent Geniel Amaro-Fantauzzi[124]Puerto Rico Police Department, PRGunfire
2014-8-28Constable Cleve Johnson[125]Titus County Constable's Office - Precinct 2, TXAutomobile accident
2014-9-3Police Officer Daryl Pierson[126]Rochester Police Department, NYGunfire
2014-9-7Patrolman II Nickolaus E. Schultz[127]Merrillville Police Department, INGunfire
2014-9-7Corporal Jason E. Harwood[128]Topeka Police Department, KSGunfire
2014-9-8Deputy Sheriff Joseph Matuskovic[129]Charleston County Sheriff's Office, SCGunfire
2014-9-12Border Patrol Agent Tyler R. Robledo[130]United States Department of Homeland Security - Customs and Border Protection - United States Border Patrol, USAutomobile accident
2014-9-12Corporal Bryon Keith ****son, II[131]Pennsylvania State Police, PAGunfire
2014-9-14Deputy Sheriff Michael Norris[132]Monroe County Sheriff's Office, GAGunfire
2014-9-16Police Officer Reinaldo Arocha, Jr.[133]Newark Police Department, NJHeart attack
2014-9-18Senior Deputy Jessica Laura Hollis[134]Travis County Sheriff's Office, TXDrowned
2014-9-21Police Officer Michael Williams[135]New York City Police Department, NYAutomobile accident
2014-9-30Police Officer Jordan Corder[136]Covina Police Department, CAMotorcycle accident
2014-9-30Trooper David Kedra[137]Pennsylvania State Police, PAGunfire (Accidental)
2014-10-9Sergeant Michael Joe Naylor[138]Midland County Sheriff's Office, TXGunfire
2014-10-20Police Officer Eddie Johnson, Jr.[139]Alton Police Department, MOAutomobile accident
2014-10-24Deputy Sheriff Danny Oliver[140]Sacramento County Sheriff's Department, CAGunfire
2014-10-24Investigator Michael David Davis, Jr.[141]Placer County Sheriff's Department, CAGunfire
2014-10-24Detective Kagan Dindar[142]Clarksville Police Department, TNHeart attack
2014-10-25Deputy Sheriff John Timothy Williamson[143]Butler County Sheriff's Office, ALHeart attack
2014-10-26Officer Anthony Haase[144]Rio Rancho Police Department, NMAutomobile accident
2014-10-26Patrolman Robert Blajszczak[145]Summerville Police Department, SCHeart attack
2014-10-27Sergeant Jeffrey W. Garrett[146]Dothan Police Department, ALHeart attack
2014-10-28Deputy Sheriff Eugene Kostiuchenko[147]Ventura County Sheriff's Office, CAVehicular assault
2014-10-29Deputy Sheriff Jesse Valdez, III[148]Harris County Sheriff's Office, TXVehicular assault
2014-10-29Police Officer Shaun Richard Diamond[149]Pomona Police Department, CAGunfire
2014-10-31Police Officer David Payne[150]Chandler Police Department, AZVehicular assault
2014-11-1Constable Robert Parker White[151]El Paso County Constable's Office - Precinct 1, TXAssault
2014-11-2Deputy Sheriff Matthew Chism[152]Cedar County Sheriff's Office, MOGunfire
2014-11-4Deputy Sheriff Darrell Perritt[153]Maury County Sheriff's Department, TNVehicle pursuit
2014-11-5Investigator Holmes Smith[154]Clarendon County Sheriff's Department, SCAutomobile accident
2014-11-14Police Officer Ronald A. Leisure[155]United States Department of Veterans Affairs Police Services, USHeart attack
2014-11-16Police Officer Justin Winebrenner[156]Akron Police Department, OHGunfire
2014-11-19Sergeant Jeffrey Wayne Greene[157]Union County Sheriff's Office, NCAutomobile accident
2014-11-21Sergeant Alejandro "Alex" Martinez[158]Willacy County Sheriff's Office, TXAutomobile accident
2014-11-22Deputy Sheriff Christopher Smith[159]Leon County Sheriff's Office, FLGunfire
2014-11-23Deputy Sheriff James "Bart" Hart[160]Elmore County Sheriff's Office, AL

 

 

 The number of persons shot by police is estimated at about 400 per year 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/fea...lice-kill-each-year/

 

<<<Some reporting has put forward one of the only figures available: the approximately 400 “justifiable police homicides” each year since 2008,according to the FBI’s annual Supplementary Homicide Report (SHR). That data point has appeared with heavy caveats in a string of media reports, including in USA Today, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and the Washington Post.

The statistic might seem solid at first glance. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Bureau of Justice Statistics — independently of the FBI — also estimate the number of police homicides per year at around 400.

 

But these estimates can be wrong. Efforts to keep track of “justifiable police homicides” are beset by systemic problems. “Nobody that knows anything about the SHR puts credence in the numbers that they call ‘justifiable homicides,’” when used as a proxy for police killings, said David Klinger, an associate professor of criminology and criminal justice at the University of Missouri who specializes in policing and the use of deadly force. And there’s no governmental effort at all to record the number of unjustifiable homicides by police.>>>

 

SEE ALSO: http://www.usatoday.com/story/...lings-data/14060357/

Last edited by Contendah
 
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Just a question, and I have no idea what the correct answer is. How many cops are killed in the line of duty each year and how many people do cops kill in the line of duty?

 

This is what started this discussion. I haven't seen anyone's answer. I sure have got bad comments about me, not one posting of the number killed by policemen.

 

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You whining because no one falls for your trap?

 

I gave you a source so that YOU could look up the answer to YOUR question.  Are you computer illiterate or just lazy?  Who did you get to do your homework for you?

 

And BTW, I'm not wasting my time looking up something you deem to be "correct."

 

Remember this?

 

You:  The rest of you, I suppose you can keep backing the police, no matter what the evidence.

 

Me: I consider the testimony of the witnesses and the results of the autopsy to be evidence.

 

Still waiting on your reply as to what you consider evidence.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Still waiting on your reply as to what you consider evidence.

A movie recorded on a cell phone and the coroner called it a homicide.

 

Contendah, thank you, it sure is thorough. The rest of you can look too

The rest of us don't have to look, we know how to search.

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You might know how to search, but I am the one who actually searched and provided the information others needed in order to discuss this topic knowledgeably.  But if, in your stubbornness, you wish to re-invent the wheel, why go ahead!

According to Contenda's chart can you notice the balloon of cops killed around prohibition and then the drop off after the appeal of it?

 Shouldn't that be something we should be studying about now?

 

I did notice that and meant to post something about it. Prohibition was rough on lawmen. I wonder how many of them were caused by backwoods still operators.

Still waiting on your reply as to what you consider evidence.

A movie recorded on a cell phone and the coroner called it a homicide.

 

What the coroner actually said, "homicide but not murder". More of the left trying to push those fake news stories.

 

  Homicide is the killing of one person by another.  Murder is a form of criminal homicide, where the perpetrator intended to kill the other person, sometimes with premeditation   Examples of excusable or justifiable homicide would be someone killing someone else as a means of self defense, or defending another person, or law enforcement who kills someone in the line of duty.

 Let's read that again, shall we?

 Examples of excusable or justifiable homicide would be someone killing someone else as a means of self defense, or defending another person, or law enforcement who kills someone in the line of duty.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/fe...murder-homicide.html

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Too jt, if you saw the video you saw the criminal telling the cops how it was going to be, and that they were not going to arrest him. Then he was going to walk his *** away and go back to his criminal activities. I asked you before, are people allowed to tell the cops whether or not they will arrest them? Are they just allowed to walk away?

 

 

Contendah headlines:

 

"IS THIS ENOUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO DO RESEARCH?

There is more than enough information here to satisfy those who demand numbers!"

 

Actually, it doesn't come close.

 

Statistical analysis or crunching numbers does not begin to tell the story.  There are lives behind the numbers.  Plus an analysis of a single year does not even scratch the surface.

 

This link hits home.  Doubtless, many of the forum readers will relate to this in ways only those who have served and family and friends can relate.  My tour of duty was from February 1975 to July 2001.  And it's personal.  Very personal.

 

http://www.odmp.org/search/browse/alabama

 

Last edited by budsfarm
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

Contendah headlines:

 

"IS THIS ENOUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO DO RESEARCH?

There is more than enough information here to satisfy those who demand numbers!"

 

Actually, it doesn't come close.

 

Statistical analysis or crunching numbers does not begin to tell the story.  There are lives behind the numbers.  Plus an analysis of a single year does not even scratch the surface.

 

This link hits home.  Doubtless, many of the forum readers will relate to this in ways only those who have served and family and friends can relate.  My tour of duty was from February 1975 to July 2001.  And it's personal.  Very personal.

 

http://www.odmp.org/search/browse/alabama

 

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Well, Mr. Dismissive ("Actually, it doesn't come close"), now that you have provided info for ONE state, you can proceed to document the statistics for the  remaining 49.  I provided the numbers that other forum members asked for, so you need not be so snide and snotty about what I posted for the entire nation!  They asked for numbers and I gave them the numbers. They did not ask me to provide fodder for those desiring to express personal sentiments.

 

And what is this cavil of yours regarding a "single year".  Read what I posted.  Multiple-year statistics in every category!   Put your bifocals on and READ it, you fractious ingrate!

Last edited by Contendah
 
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

 

Contendah headlines:

 

"IS THIS ENOUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO DO RESEARCH?

There is more than enough information here to satisfy those who demand numbers!"

 

Actually, it doesn't come close.

 

Statistical analysis or crunching numbers does not begin to tell the story.  There are lives behind the numbers.  Plus an analysis of a single year does not even scratch the surface.

 

This link hits home.  Doubtless, many of the forum readers will relate to this in ways only those who have served and family and friends can relate.  My tour of duty was from February 1975 to July 2001.  And it's personal.  Very personal.

 

http://www.odmp.org/search/browse/alabama

 

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Well, Mr. Dismissive ("Actually, it doesn't come close"), now that you have provided info for ONE state, you can proceed to document the statistics for the  remaining 49.  I provided the numbers that other forum members asked for, so you need not be so snide and snotty about what I posted for the entire nation!  They asked for numbers and I gave them the numbers. They did not ask me to provide fodder for those desiring to express personal sentiments.

 

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Name calling is something I don't indulge in.  But if that's your best shot ... well then ...  I am as you claim "dismissive."

 

Obviously you have trouble following through with research.  So I'm here once again to fix it for you.

 

To begin with I gave a link to Alabama lives knowing that would be more relevant locally than national numbers.  I refined JT's request.  Numbers alone do not tell the story.  JT obviously doesn't know enough about the subject to ask the right questions.  And all you did was provide JT with something he is perfectly capable of doing himself.  I did better than you.  Anyone could.

 

Read carefully.  On the link I provided, up in the blue bar, second from left, click on "Officers."  Scroll down to "Browse By State" it will take you to this link.  http://www.odmp.org/search/browse

 

If you were a mediocre researcher at a minimum you would have done what I did.  What choice do I have ... does anyone have for that matter ...  to be dismissive of your lack of effort to provide detail.

 

BTW, every single one of those names is better than you.  Dogs excepted.

 

Too jt, if you saw the video you saw the criminal telling the cops how it was going to be, and that they were not going to arrest him. Then he was going to walk his *** away and go back to his criminal activities. I asked you before, are people allowed to tell the cops whether or not they will arrest them? Are they just allowed to walk away?

 

If they suspected him of illegal activity, just shoot him. It'd be a lot quicker, less straining.  Oh, wait, they were NYC cops, no telling how many bystanders would have got shot.

oh snap, grandpappy..........Looks like Bud got your goat.

 

For the record the OP was not asking an "innocent" question. I am unclear of the intent, but as it has been stated, the information is easily googled. 

 

I think by staying away from second part of the question you agree. At least subconsciously. 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Too jt, if you saw the video you saw the criminal telling the cops how it was going to be, and that they were not going to arrest him. Then he was going to walk his *** away and go back to his criminal activities. I asked you before, are people allowed to tell the cops whether or not they will arrest them? Are they just allowed to walk away?

 

If they suspected him of illegal activity, just shoot him. It'd be a lot quicker, less straining.  Oh, wait, they were NYC cops, no telling how many bystanders would have got shot.

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So in other words, as usual you have let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird **** with your silly childish posts, and you don't have any answers. Try it. When you get stopped, tell the cop how it's going to be, then walk away or drive away. That should be fun for all.

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