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After months of exile and after several attempts [unbeknown to Deep] by mine own self petitioning TD to un-ban the ole feller failed Joy has by main-strength and awkwardness resurrected him.

 

 

Quote by Joy:

“Hey, I changed the troll that used your name to another name so that I could change your name to DeepFat. Clear as mud? Anyhoo, I'll send you an email and a PM at TVT to tell you as well so you will know to sign in as "DeepFat" now. Whoop whoop”

 

 

Note: I don’t know what Whoop Whoop means.lol

Joy it is only ****ing that you make deep an admin.

A pair of matched mules pulling to destroy a belief in God.

Joy you have taken the devil into your bosom.

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Originally Posted by Ronnie P.:
Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

Shut up, Rrammlin. Talk about resurrections. You're the king of it.

I've been Ronnie P. for several years.  Before that I was Ron Plexisising, same account I just changed the name so yeah......

 

I think Penda meant Magpie, he was rramlin and a lot of others from what I can ascertain. Apparently all Joy did was make sure a poster got to use his longtime screen name. I think I'll head over there and register now. Sounds like good people.

ronnie,

This was the idiot's first post over there:

Saved from what?

Hi, y'all, it's me, DeepFat. Your friendly neighborhood atheist.

Seriously, there must be some distress from which you must be "saved". The orthodox reason is Original Sin from the story of Adam and Eve, but I won't insult you with the notion that you believe that. It's obviously metaphorical for the imperfect nature of the human condition.

That leaves us with the realization that humans are imperfect. So what? The better ones among try to lead good lives, the worse among us try to do evil, lots of people just muddle along and the world is no better or worse for their existence.

From what do we ALL need vicarious redemption? Nothing. We are the creatures we are, either created or evolved.

The essential story of Jesus is therefor nullified. There is no Original Sin, this much is clear, and for the imperfect nature of humans, we only have God to blame. Or not. In either case, there is no reason for universal salvation. It's a farce, and a fraud.

We're having some fun now, eh?

 

 

THE ABOVE IN RESPONSE TO JOY'S POST:

I am positive I am saved.

I feel the Holy Spirit's conviction when I do something outside of God's will, his joy when I do something in God's will, his filling when I cannot do something by myself, his intervention when I am about to do something harmful to me or another person, his revelation and power when I read scripture or pray and I had a supernatural experience when I surrendered in my late 20s. I asked Christ to be my Savior, accepted him as Savior at age ten, but did not know about the surrender part until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord...so I did that in my late 20s.

God has never left me, even when I was acting a fool as a teen. He never let me enjoy my sinful lifestyle. I was miserable until I turned away from that and began to follow his will for my life. I have been saved since the moment I asked him to save me at age 10. His presence is all over and in my life. I believe his word is true because of the power it has when spoken by me or anyone else...therefore the promises within are true as well. No one can snatch me from the Father's hand, including me. All of the above is why I am positive that the moment I am absent from the body, I will be present with the Savior.
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Tell me that ain't weird.
 
 

1. Joy fixed his account so he could log in as DeepFat since some ahole here stole his name.

2. He is not an admin. nor a moderator.

3. The same ahole has nothing to do but copy and paste from another forum since his is dead.

4. The forum he copies and paste from is open to the public unlike his own.

 

July 12, 2011 9:31 PM
 

 

BTW Joy I guess you were too dumb to figgger it out but I didn’t want on your forum to begin with.

 

Remember buffs signature “welcome buff glad you are here [joy] “

 

You never even recognized that was sarcasm.

 

What would the average citizen post over there anyone would care about reading? Huh

 

You and your religious insanity must be a real trip for others.

 

Well you got Bill over there now this autta be interesting. Lol

 

I can get on that ‘too wide forum any time I wish” but I hate to scroll sidewise to read a post.

 

So goodbye E. for now over there.

 

 

If only you had meant that.  "SIGH"

Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

What's your problem with Joy?

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 Looks like she's decided to go all in with the black sheep on her new forum. Sorry, I don't do sheep or those who hang with them. When you have Shoalanda plugging your website, you know you've hit a new low. I never thought she'd go that way, i thought she had more principle.

Say what?

 

Who is Blacksheep?  Sholanda plugs The Best of Shoals as well, ramm's site.

 

I'm not a sheep, Joy is not, and as far as i know, it has never been mentioned on the site. Heck, even JR is in there now. He's from the OTHER side.

 

What is your real problem extra?  You were part of Sue's. If you can show me where anyone mentioned blacksheep, let me know.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

What's your problem with Joy?

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 Looks like she's decided to go all in with the black sheep on her new forum. Sorry, I don't do sheep or those who hang with them. When you have Shoalanda plugging your website, you know you've hit a new low. I never thought she'd go that way, i thought she had more principle.

 

 I promise you this/Joy has nothing to do with the black sheep. As far as it concerns you, there is no black sheep!

Originally Posted by Magpie:

Not my intention atall Gus.

I don’t try and make anyone look bad.

Who are you campaigning for anyhow?

 

 

 I will be voting for the one who speaks the truth, does not step on other's toe's. Does not deliver hatred messages trying to turn other's away from one. Is not obsessed with discrediting people just because they do not agree with her.Last but not least the one who is not a sexist! 

My vote will be for Joy of course!

Originally Posted by Magpie:
Joy wrote:   I am positive I am saved.  I feel the Holy Spirit's conviction when I do something outside of God's will, his joy when I do something in God's will, his filling when I cannot do something by myself, his intervention when I am about to do something harmful to me or another person, his revelation and power when I read scripture or pray and I had a supernatural experience when I surrendered in my late 20s. I asked Christ to be my Savior, accepted him as Savior at age ten, but did not know about the surrender part until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord...so I did that in my late 20s.

God has never left me, even when I was acting a fool as a teen. He never let me enjoy my sinful lifestyle. I was miserable until I turned away from that and began to follow his will for my life. I have been saved since the moment I asked him to save me at age 10. His presence is all over and in my life. I believe his word is true because of the power it has when spoken by me or anyone else...therefore the promises within are true as well. No one can snatch me from the Father's hand, including me. All of the above is why I am positive that the moment I am absent from the body, I will be present with the Savior. [/quote]

Hi Magpie,

 

Personally, I agree with everything Joy has written in this post.  Where do you find a problem with it?

 

Her comment, "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord"  -- would lead me to think that she leans toward a Lordship Theology, which tends to be sort of a "works related" theology.   And, I suppose I would lean more toward a Free Grace Theology which says we are saved by grace, through faith -- plus nothing else, no works.

 

Yet, the rest of Joy's post leads me to believe she also believes as I do about salvation.  So, possibly, that phrase "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord" -- though it sounds like Lordship Theology -- may just be Joy's way of expressing her love for Jesus Christ.  Personally, I always say that He is my personal Lord and Savior.  And, that is basically what Joy has told us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by unclegus:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

What's your problem with Joy?

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 Looks like she's decided to go all in with the black sheep on her new forum. Sorry, I don't do sheep or those who hang with them. When you have Shoalanda plugging your website, you know you've hit a new low. I never thought she'd go that way, i thought she had more principle.

 

 I promise you this/Joy has nothing to do with the black sheep. As far as it concerns you, there is no black sheep!

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 Gus, hows the pilot light business these days?

Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

Extra is so typical of Christians around here, jumping to conclusions and judging people he's never met. He has partaken of the kool-aid. Those people you defend are claiming Elvis is their daddy and that there's werewolfs running aorund and that they've been abducted by aliens. Birds of a feather sure flock together.

Well there you have it sportsfans. It all goes back to the hatred of Sweetwater by the blacksheep. Don't forget Gus i was a member of the Blacksheep. once upon a time.I know all about their subversive acts and Gus , remember when you were gun totin  security for the blacksheep?

Originally Posted by b50m:

Say what?

 

Who is Blacksheep?  Sholanda plugs The Best of Shoals as well, ramm's site.

 

I'm not a sheep, Joy is not, and as far as i know, it has never been mentioned on the site. Heck, even JR is in there now. He's from the OTHER side.

 

What is your real problem extra?  You were part of Sue's. If you can show me where anyone mentioned blacksheep, let me know.

 

 

 LMM,

 I've been to the site, it's eat up with BS. I'm not a member of Ramms club, I can proudly say I was kicked out, for nothing, I didn't post there.

Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

Extra is so typical of Christians around here, jumping to conclusions and judging people he's never met. He has partaken of the kool-aid. Those people you defend are claiming Elvis is their daddy and that there's werewolfs running aorund and that they've been abducted by aliens. Birds of a feather sure flock together.

 

Pendra, when it comes to private property I am very libertarian. What people do on private property is their business and none of yours. If you don't like it, stay away from it, problem solved.

 If they want to start a crazy farm, then by all means let em.

 

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

Hey, HEY, now....

 

The yankee needs some hatin' too.....

 

 

Youse're all a couple bricks shy of a patio.

 

 

 

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 Lol, that cause we got it one piece at a time from where we work.

 

 

Could you please point out the evil ones, because I don't ask that question on the application. JR was not refused. He never got signed up the first time, just like Bill never got his confimation. That has happened a lot.

 

Since I was not one of those and don't keep a list of who's who, I don't know who is and isn't. Why don't you tell me who all of them are?

 

 LMM,

 I've been to the site, it's eat up with BS. I'm not a member of Ramms club, I can proudly say I was kicked out, for nothing, I didn't post there.


JR-- Perfect, he was refused membership at first. How many BS have been refused at Alabamian?

 


As for Sholanda, here:


Thursday, March 12, 2009

Best of the Shoals Forum

 


Another new forum? Yes, and we think you'll like it. The newest forum in the Shoals area is Best of the Shoals, and the appellation fits. So, why is it best?

Obviously best is subjective, but BOS does offer some rather unusual and innovative categories. Has the downturn in the economy generated a vegetable garden in your backyard? Then BOS has a category for you. Like to write? You guessed it, BOS has a special place reserved for your literary efforts.

For those die hard news fans, there's a traditional news category, but BOS is more concerned with helping its members grow and reach their full potential than it is about debate. Oh, did I mention humor? Obviously, you'll find quite a bit of it also:

http://shoalsbest.forumotion.n...ogin.forum?connexion

Ramlimn/magpie I don't hate sweetwater. I was one of the volunteers who saw you try to take over and sit on the porch pickin' and grinnin'. The last time I was there you were rolling in the hay with that crackpot director fancying yourself a plantation gentleman watching us free labor (slaves) work our fingers to the bone for nothing. Nothing we were promised was ever done for that place. You were right in there with that hate group and your just as jealous as the rest of them of anybody who's got more than you.

Pen, I’ve never volunteered labor on a historic property in my life. That’s how I’ve made my living.

I’m not going to do any manual labor and not get paid on any historical property. I’m retired and my shop is closed so don’t accuse me of anything but sittin on my lazy azz pick’in and grin’n

Free advice as to proper restoration, yes I’ll give that free.

Yea you’all did work your fingers to the bone. I saw that. A lot of the work was all that tacky $Η± strewn around the yard[ which I insisted they remove] but as long as no one touches the house proper in any manner that would be counter to guidelines of The Alabama Historical Commission then I wont have to be up anyone’s ŧ§ with a pichfork now will I?

 

You had fun out there too. I saw that.

Originally Posted by b50m:

 

Could you please point out the evil ones, because I don't ask that question on the application. JR was not refused. He never got signed up the first time, just like Bill never got his confimation. That has happened a lot.

 

Since I was not one of those and don't keep a list of who's who, I don't know who is and isn't. Why don't you tell me who all of them are?

 

 LMM,

 I've been to the site, it's eat up with BS. I'm not a member of Ramms club, I can proudly say I was kicked out, for nothing, I didn't post there.


JR-- Perfect, he was refused membership at first. How many BS have been refused at Alabamian?

 


As for Sholanda, here:


Thursday, March 12, 2009

Best of the Shoals Forum

 


Another new forum? Yes, and we think you'll like it. The newest forum in the Shoals area is Best of the Shoals, and the appellation fits. So, why is it best?

Obviously best is subjective, but BOS does offer some rather unusual and innovative categories. Has the downturn in the economy generated a vegetable garden in your backyard? Then BOS has a category for you. Like to write? You guessed it, BOS has a special place reserved for your literary efforts.

For those die hard news fans, there's a traditional news category, but BOS is more concerned with helping its members grow and reach their full potential than it is about debate. Oh, did I mention humor? Obviously, you'll find quite a bit of it also:

http://shoalsbest.forumotion.n...ogin.forum?connexion

 

 

 

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 That's from over 2 years ago and I'm not a member of BOS.

 Playing ignorant about the BS is not becoming to you. You know who and what they are, you don't need me to point the finger.

 

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

Extra, out of respect for you, you should know that rammlimn lies when the truth is a better story.  Don't take him at face value.  His original post here is not accurate.

 

DF

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 Deep,

 My post did not take any special regards to the opening post nor towards you. It was a commentary concerning many of the people she surrounds herself with these days. A casual scan of the forum in question now confirms my previous statement. The sheep, plainly stated, are trash without class.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Pendra2010:

A whole lot of JUDGING coming from a preacher, especially since you've never met one soul your judging.. You ort to be ashamed Extra.

 

 

 "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks".  You should check out the people you defend. It is you who should be ashamed.

 When you sheep mend your ways, I will apropriately mend my opinion of you. A tree is known by it's fruit, all your fruit is bad.

 

 

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

I used to have a lot of respect for Joy, no so much these days.

Extra, out of respect for you, you should know that rammlimn lies when the truth is a better story.  Don't take him at face value.  His original post here is not accurate.

 

DF

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Who are you kidding nsns you don't respect 360, he's a minister. The very people you hate.

Do you think he falls for your foolishness? Nawp not for a second.

          Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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Df

You and I have always had civil exchanges.

I’m disappointed that your first post over there on Joy’s forum was to blaspheme Jesus.

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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 Maybe you should look at the sheep show on her blog before you say that. They are truly showing their colors to point that I need not say any more.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

Extra,

 

You and I have always had a civil and intellectual dialog here.  I am disappointed that you have passed such a shallow-minded judgment on Joy.

 

DF

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 Maybe you should look at the sheep show on her blog before you say that. They are truly showing their colors to point that I need not say any more.

 

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 Look, I didn't trash Joy. It is on record that I have defended her many times in these forums. I only stated that my level of respect for her had diminished some because of the people she has now surrounded herself with. 

Playing ignorant about the BS is not becoming to you. You know who and what they are, you don't need me to point the finger.

 

 

 

Hate to break this to you extra 260, extra 360, jugflyer, but I was never part of that group, nor Monet's, don't give a flip about either one and no one has brought up anything at Joy's forum that is inappropriate.

 

Now if you want to start accusing me of something, then do so. I hate both sides and as long as no one brings it up in a post, I don't care. To accuse me of playing some infantile game with either side is BS. If you are a preacher, then thou should not gossip.

 

I don't know the members, don't care about the members and IF there are some people who post at Joy's forum that you find offensive, then don't read it. Just because you have judged someone to be below your standards of 'goodness', doesn't give you the right to decide who someone else should associate with.

 

Please point out those evil sheep for all the world to see. If you are so worried that they are evil, then report the forum. Ask magpie, he's knows exactly how since he already done so twice.
The only TRUE COLORS I have seen is a fake preacher judging others while behaving as a vindictive little man hiding behind a screen name. Joy nor I have ever said anything about you and as far as I know, you never bothered to make any comments on Sue's forum.

 

So if you think that the whole world gives a flip about your opinion, you are wrong. Joy started a forum. The policy is if you don't make waves you stay. Cause trouble you go. So far, I have not seen any trouble except form Ramm. Now if you want to be just like him, go ahead. If you are going to go low, might as well go all the way.

 

Unlike you, Joy can forgive and allows anyone in regardless of the past. As long as they know how to behave respectfully, we all have a good time.

 

I always knew you believed weird conspiracy theories, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Extra I don't know anything about any black sheep. I am not a member of that forum. Just this one. I have run across you in real life. You sure act different behind a screen name. You and Ramline are not a good witness for the Lord and you have to know that in your heart. Joy is.

And to Ramlin I use to go in the BP over on Huntsville Road and I seen you there more often that you should have been pickin' and grinnin' with TNT. Does Missus Ramline know about that? I'd say TNT has a lot more of why you threw Joy to the wolves than anything else. She paid you back that money she owes you yet?

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

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 Ha ha.  Your really something else. All I said was my respect for her had diminished some because she had welcomed many of the trouble making black sheep to her forum. For that I get insults, called a fake preacher, called nuts, and told by half your forum to KMA. (Yes thats posted at the Alabamian.)

 

 Stand back for a munute and look at yourselves.

 You condemn me, because I condemn those who took a picture off of a church website and turned it into an advertizement for s@x toys. Nice people you hang with.

 

Extra I don't know anything about any black sheep. I am not a member of that forum. Just this one. I have run across you in real life. You sure act different behind a screen name. You and Ramline are not a good witness for the Lord and you have to know that in your heart. Joy is.

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 Pendra,

 You already have your mind made up and there is little chance I will change it, but here goes.

 A year ago, Original bama took a picture of me off of a Church website and photo shopped it into a advertizement for s@x toys. Shoalanda loved it so much she posted her glee. this is still on his blog.

 These are the kind of people I have condemned. Now, you wanna call me a fake preacher, go right ahead. i have no desire to be a part of any forum with them until they change their ways. From the posts on the alabamian last night, they haven't cvhanged their ways.

 

 But you can continue to live in your own little dream world if you please.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by b50m:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

, but I didn't know you were nuts too.

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 So now is it personal between us? You now going to resort to namecalling? This a a severe response by you and others over my statemnt that my respect had diminished. I never said I had no respect for her. You folks indeed are showing your true colors, name calling and now threats.
 
 Yes, that is BS behavior. Continue, people need to know who they are dealing with in the forums.

Namecalling?  I said you were nuts and a fake preacher. I did not make any threats. I don't know pendra2010 and don't care too.  I'm sure ramm is laughing so hard he choked on his whiskey last night.   Seems that whenever the BS or the Monet group gets into any thing, all that it leads to is pure trouble.

People can read our forum and make up their own mind. They don't need you telling them what YOU think the people are like.

Are you sure you are a preacher? Between you and ramm, I can understand why the atheists are atheists.

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 Ha ha.  Your really something else. All I said was my respect for her had diminished some because she had welcomed many of the trouble making black sheep to her forum. For that I get insults, called a fake preacher, called nuts, and told by half your forum to KMA. (Yes thats posted at the Alabamian.)

 

 Stand back for a munute and look at yourselves.

 You condemn me, because I condemn those who took a picture off of a church website and turned it into an advertizement for s@x toys. Nice people you hang with.

 

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true.

Half told you to KMA?  We have 53 registered members, not counting all of Ramm's accounts that leaves about 43.  I saw three tell you that last night. So far, five has said they were part of the BS. Want to explain how 5 is half of 43?

 

No one said anything until you started this.

Originally Posted by Infomercial:

I don't read OB's blog or Shoalanda every day. Could you tell me just where OB posted this and where SS commented on it. So that I don't have to look? You can do that can't you?

 

 Go to his blog archive, september 19th last year. The comments by shoalanda and debra glass are at the bottom of that days post.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Infomercial:

I don't read OB's blog or Shoalanda every day. Could you tell me just where OB posted this and where SS commented on it. So that I don't have to look? You can do that can't you?

 

 Go to his blog archive, september 19th last year. The comments by shoalanda and debra glass are at the bottom of that days post.

 

 

 

Okay I hadn't seen it. What's bad about the comments?

Debra Glass said: I've heard of blow up sheep but never a blow up ass.

Shoalanda Speaks said: Are you sure this isn't some dude from Las Vegas? You know, "Come on down to Pardner Pete's for the best *** in Nevada!"

 

Extra-260, I don't know nor do I care who is a member of any group nor do I need to know about any past issues those groups have had with each other.  I do believe I have said those exact words enough times that at some point, you should have remembered me saying them.

 

ANYone is welcome to join the Alabamian and they join by self activation.  The email comes to ALL members from forumotion, not from me, with a link you click on to activate your account.  Last time I checked, I do not own forumotion...lol...I made a test membership yesterday to see if it works and it works just fine.  I then posted the steps for any member having problems... http://alabamian.forumotion.co...-post-here-read-this .

 

If you need proof that ANYbody can join my forum, remember that Rram/Buff/Magpie was a member, a person who lied about me and kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated.  Do you really think that an Admin should act like an immature child, admitting or rejecting people (real people, mind you, with freakin' feelings!) like it's a clique in high school?  I strongly disagree.  Not only is it immature and discriminatory, God would surely frown on such an action, Preacher.  As I recall, Jesus hung out with some folks you would exclude from dinner.

" kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated. "

 

 I'm glad to see you do have your limits. It has restored some of my confidence in you.

 

 Yes, Jesus did eat with many undesirable people, most of whom were willing to change their ways. At the same time, there are many he didn't eat with.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Magpie,

 

Personally, I agree with everything Joy has written in this post.  Where do you find a problem with it?

 

Her comment, "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord"  -- would lead me to think that she leans toward a Lordship Theology, which tends to be sort of a "works related" theology.   And, I suppose I would lean more toward a Free Grace Theology which says we are saved by grace, through faith -- plus nothing else, no works.

 

Yet, the rest of Joy's post leads me to believe she also believes as I do about salvation.  So, possibly, that phrase "until God taught me that it's Savior and Lord" -- though it sounds like Lordship Theology -- may just be Joy's way of expressing her love for Jesus Christ.  Personally, I always say that He is my personal Lord and Savior.  And, that is basically what Joy has told us.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill


 

Thank you, but that's not what I believe.  I was taught all about Jesus being my Savior, but very little about Jesus being my Lord and what that entailed.  Thankfully, God saw fit to teach me what that meant. 

 

In my 20s, God tore down the wall I had built between me and everyone else in my life (including him), which I built to avoid being hurt again - I won't lie; that was a painful experience, but necessary.  One night, I finally gave up, bent my stubborn neck and let him take over in my life, his will replacing my own.  In that moment, he healed the wounds and filled the gaps in my soul with himself.  I didn't know the gaps were there until he filled them.  I was whole for the first time in my life.  I didn't even know what being whole meant before it happened to me. 

 

I serve him out of gratitude and love, because he did for me what no other could do.  He set me free.  Loving God and loving others is a natural overflow of the work he does in us.  That's why the Bible says that you will know us by our love.  If there is no love, there's a very good chance there is no Savior and Lord in that person's life.

Last edited by _Joy_
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

" kicked me off his forum after I tactfully asked to be removed as Admin due to a decision he made with which I could not be associated. "

 

 I'm glad to see you do have your limits. It has restored some of my confidence in you.

 

 Yes, Jesus did eat with many undesirable people, most of whom were willing to change their ways. At the same time, there are many he didn't eat with.


 

With all due respect, what kind of rationale is that?  Either he dined with people who you feel are beneath you or he didn't.  Where in scripture did Jesus do as you insinuate?  Now, he got REAL ugly with some church leaders, but I think he even dined with a few of them on occasion.  Why did he get so ugly with those church leaders?  Do you recall?

 

Sorry...this brings out the little sister in me, Extra.

 

BTW, I do not accept Extra's assessment of anyone on my forum, this forum, any forum.  Unless someone gives me reason to think otherwise, I see them as a person.  However, if you start growing fangs or claws, you gotta go. *snicker*

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

Since I DIDN"T KNOW THAT, because I have never seen that posted anywhere, you have a right to be angry, providing it's true

 

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 so now, you take back the hateful things you said?

I'll take back fake preacher.  But as for those conspiracy theories, you're still nuts.

 

Joy is a friend, to let your comments slide about her would make me a fair weather friend.  I'm not.

Are we not to love the sinner but hate the sin? If people made mistakes in the past, they need to atone. To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

Originally Posted by _Joy_:

I just used the search feature to see if there were any other lies by Magpie in need of a rebuttal link to my forum and it appears he is no longer with us.  As long as it stays that way, there will be no more need for rebuttal links.

 

Good job, TVT Admin.

He'll be back. Like a bad nightmare.

Originally Posted by b50m:
To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

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I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by b50m:
To hold their past against them is wrong. Agreed?

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I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.

 

 Unob,

 I never assaulted her re****tion, I just questioned her judgment. With that clarification, i give you the last word.

 

 
Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

       For the record, I'm not a troll, and I'm still here.





Sorry, wasn't talking about you. We were talking about Magpie. You aren't a "new" member are you?
 
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 No Dark, that was for some of the others.

 

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

I personally think "forgiveness " is highly overrated.  There are some things that are unforgivable. An assault on the good re****tion of a person like Joy who is the epitome of a Good Christian girl who actually walks the walk (unlike ANYONE else here) is simply unforgivable.


I haven't had time to stop by the last few days, but wanted to tell you how much I appreciate that. Thank you, Unob and everyone else with enough walking around sense to see all that silliness for what it was.

Originally Posted by dark dreamer:
https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/d...6#232801071967044756

Congratulations to Jennifer! She has correctly identified Rram's AKA-(Magpie)(buffalo)(deep.fat)(and many others) new screen name which is "okuok". I knew someone would catch on eventually. It's really not that hard if you know the true nature of a troll and how they operate.

Congrats DD.  You win the prize for picking the slime out of the weeds. He finally gave absolute proof. 

 

Bm50,

I’ve noticed your infatuation with one Buffalo. Was there an ember at one time or what?

I never personally met the Great Buffalo but I’ve heard of his bravery.

His wisdom is much discussed as is his scientific knowledge around the world.

I understand he was quite the ladies man. Perhaps you and the hoard of women have pursued him in vain.

We all miss the Buffalo.

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