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Democratic group asks Koch Brothers for donation after attacking them By Chris Moody | The Ticket – 3 hrs ago (Larry W. Smith/AP)

 

Koch Industries, the billion-dollar energy conglomerate that faces regular attacks from liberal groups for donating millions to conservative and free-market political causes, reported that a national Democratic group approached the company seeking campaign donations. The appeal went out out over the signature of Washington Sen. Patty Murray, who chairs the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC). The DSCC asked Koch for a five-figure donation, a request the company is making very public after it weathered months of criticism from Democrats, including the DSCC. A Koch spokesman responded to the request with a scathing letter to Murray. "For many months now, your colleagues in the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee leadership have engaged in a series of disparagements and ad hominem attacks about us, apparently as part of a concerted political and fundraising strategy," wrote Philip Ellender, Koch's president of government and public affairs. "So you can imagine my chagrin when I got a letter from you on June 17 asking us to make five-figure contributions to the DSCC. You followed that up with a voicemail indicating that, if we contributed heavily enough, we would garner an invitation to join you and other Democratic leaders at a retreat in Kiawah Island this September." Ellender added: "I'm hoping you can help me understand the intent of your request because it's hard not to conclude that DSCC politics have become so cynical that you actually expect people whom you routinely denounce to give DSCC money."

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The DSCC asked because they're lobbyists, and have no qualms about taking money from anyone for any issue at anytime.  And it worked last time.

 

KOCHPAC & DEMOCRATS

http://www.politico.com/blogs/..._in_2010_cycle.html#

 

A Koch ally sends over a tally of KOCHPAC's publicly disclosed contributions to Democrats this cycle alone, which total $196,000 — a fraction of what the brothers have given to libertarian and artistic causes over the years, but still real money in federal politics.

Their largest gift: $30,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by marksw59:
Hey Juan! You're wrong! Face it the Dimocrats are blithering idiots for the most part.

Spoken like a true blithering idiot!

Now Jimi... I just thought I would deign to be on the same level with you and all the other useful idiots and wallow in the same mud... you should really feel privileged ya' know...

 

Not only that, you're wrong.

http://nyc.pointslocal.com/sto...-cuomos-koch-problem

 

Big bucks also go to non-bluedog dems. It could be why there might be just a dime's worth of difference between Scott  Walker's and Andrew Cuomo's treatment of public employees. The big difference in outcry is only because Walker is Republican.

(Reuters) - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo ramped up the pressure on union officials to concede hundreds of millions of dollars in savings on Thursday with the delivery of layoff notices to more than 300 state workers.

The 321 workers receiving the lay notices are members of the Public Employee Federation (PEF), the state's second-largest public employee union, which publicly rejected some of Cuomo's proposals earlier this year.

The union is continuing labor talks with the state. The new layoff notices come on top of 450 layoffs announced last week. All the layoffs are scheduled to take effect on July 28.

Cuomo, a Democrat, had threatened 9,800 layoffs unless unions concede $450 million in savings from wages and benefits to help close a $10 billion deficit without new taxes or debt.

http://www.reuters.com/article...0110707?feedType=RSS

Originally Posted by Flatus the Ancient:

http://nyc.pointslocal.com/sto...-cuomos-koch-problem

 

Big bucks also go to non-bluedog dems. It could be why there might be just a dime's worth of difference between Scott  Walker's and Andrew Cuomo's treatment of public employees. The big difference in outcry is only because Walker is Republican.

(Reuters) - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo ramped up the pressure on union officials to concede hundreds of millions of dollars in savings

http://www.reuters.com/article...0110707?feedType=RSS

 

That is is incorrect.  The outrage at Walker is at hime stripping the workers right to organize and collectively bargain, the wage and benefit concessions were not the issue, hence the lack of interest in the Cuomo situation.

That is is incorrect.  The outrage at Walker is at hime stripping the workers right to organize and collectively bargain, the wage and benefit concessions were not the issue, hence the lack of interest in the Cuomo situation.

You're half right on the the bargaining rights. The unions can still bargain over wages, but not benefits.

As to other differences, those paying union dues in both states won't see any real difference; they will all pay more for their benefits and see smaller paychecks. The reality of the issue is that whatever agreements a state legislature might make, they can also take when the political climate changes. For Wisconsin public employees, they at least know that their governor was one their union did not support because of the (R) beside his name. For those in New York, they should now know that their governor with the "D" in the bracket will gladly take union money as an entitlement and also take evil Koch boys money.

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