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In the very first line of this article are hints of the idea that we should give up. It is a fact that we need to support what is going on in the middle east or the operation is doomed. Instead of falling prey to the negitive Vietnam compairison, lets make the out-come better with American support!

3000+ deaths thus far compaired to Vietnam.....Really there is no compairison at all. We sacrifice this many lives, for far less worthy causes on our nations highways daily!

If you do not agree with President Bush....fine! That is your right as an American....! But to not show support for our American military and what they are doing,that will only make for more Death of its members. That can be compaired to Vietnam.....!

We are all in this together!

God Bless America!
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The Iraq War is not "a worthy cause." It's a lie. There were no WMD. There was no al Qaeda presence until we overthrew Saddam. There actually had been two al Qaeda camps in the North, in the Kurdish section that were protected by the US/Braitn "No Fly Zone." Saddam was secular and had no tolerance for religious extremists, especially ones who wanted to overthrow his government.

The average Iraqi, or Muslim person for that matter, wants no part of the religious extremists. They are a small presence but continue to recruit due to the US occupation, killing and other crimes. The war had been a boom to their recruiting.

Vietnam is a good comparison because we are once again invading and occupying a country that does not want us there. Iraqi polls continually show they feel attacks on US troops are justified and they believe the US should withdraw. The majority of the US troops feel we should withdraw.

3,000 deaths for the first three years is way a head of the rate we lost soldiers in the first 3 years of Vietnam, the early 60's, and like Vietnam, the numbers are increasing, not decreasing.

Withdrawing the troops is supporting the troops.

The war is about controlling the region for the oil, which they have been pressuring the Iraqi government to privatize the oil and their economy. For Multi national corporations to loot. The latest bill is currently in the Iraqi Parliament and is soon to be passed or did pass. The war is about dominating the region for the oil. The war is not in the interests of the American people. It is for the profits of the wealthy corporations and the military corporate empire. They wrote about the importance of the oil and the region in the 1990's and here we are. Once again being lied too about the reasons for a war.

Instead of wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of lives we should be using the money to find safe, alternative, renewable energy sources. That's what's in the interests of the American people. Also a universal health care system, free education for all, an educated public is in the Nations Interest and is also "National Security." We need to rebuild our infrastructure and our economy. We need to rebuild American with good paying jobs with a secure future.

Oil pollutes and a cause of Global Warming.

We are "all in this together" which is why we need to end this destructive policy that benefits the few at the expense of the majority. The War has only increased hatred for the US around the world and increased support for extremists groups and our chances of being attacked.

"God Bless the American People."
US Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006
Zogby International | Press Release
Tuesday 28 February 2006

Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay "as long as they are needed"


While 58% say mission is clear, 42% say U.S. role is hazy


Plurality believes Iraqi insurgents are mostly homegrown


Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam's role in 9/11, most don't blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks


Majority of troops oppose use of harsh prisoner interrogation


Plurality of troops pleased with their armor and equipment
An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

The poll, conducted in conjunction with Le Moyne College's Center for Peace and Global Studies, showed that 29% of the respondents, serving in various branches of the armed forces, said the U.S. should leave Iraq "immediately," while another 22% said they should leave in the next six months. Another 21% said troops should be out between six and 12 months, while 23% said they should stay "as long as they are needed."

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/47/18039
This whole mindset that you have to support the president, or you are not supporting the troops or whatever is just plane ********!
Since federal funding is on a yearly basis (with emergencys funded if needed), if congress cuts funding for Bush's war, then Bush will be forced to withdraw them. This is support of the troops, but not support of Bush's war. Our troops would not suddenly be left without supplies as these Republican pundits try to convince us.
I am amazed at the people who believe whatever Bush's supporters and follow like lemmings in lockstep off the clift.
UBL in earlier statements stated he wanted to bring the USA down financially! If we keep on keeping on in Iraq, spendings Billions on nation building there, he will accomplish his means and Bush is his helper.
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okay i want to ask some of you that keep up with the news on the war . what is this about the US military and government using paid-for-hire private "military" ( can't think of a better way to say it)?
I had heard something to this on the news station early one morning this week ,but was busy and only caught bits and pieces. I have searched the net over,maybe just looking in the wrong places. it was being discussed on MSNBC
TomPaine.com - It's Still About The Oil

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/01/19/its_still_about_the_oil.php

It's Still About The Oil

Antonia Juhasz
January 19, 2007


Antonia Juhasz, a visiting scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies, is the author of The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time (HarperCollins, 2006). She is also contributing author, with John Perkins and others, to A Game as Old as Empire (Berrett-Koehler, February 2007).

For more than four years, the Bush administration and its oil company cohorts have worked toward the passage of a new oil law for Iraq that would turn its nationalized oil system over to private foreign corporate control. On Thursday, January 18, this dream came one step closer to reality when an Iraqi negotiating committee of "national and regional leaders" approved a new hydrocarbon law. The committee chair, Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih, told Reuters that the draft will go to the Iraqi cabinet next week and, if approved, to the parliament immediately thereafter.

The good news is that the Production Sharing Agreements (PSAs) so hotly desired by the Bush administration and the world's oil companies that appeared in earlier drafts of the law have apparently been removed. The PSAs gave private companies (including foreign ones) control of Iraq's oil production and 70 percent of the profits, specified that up to two thirds of Iraq's known oil reserves would be developed by private companies and locked the government into 30-year contracts.

Unfortunately, the bad news still outweighs the good.

First, the committee has debated the new law in near total secrecy: almost no one—both outside of and within the Iraqi government, including the parliament—has seen it.

It is clear, however, based on press reports that the law allows foreign investment in Iraq's oil industry. It also grants foreign oil companies "national treatment," which means that the Iraqi government cannot give preference to Iraqi oil companies (whether public or privately owned) over foreign-owned companies when it chooses contractors. This provision alone will severely cripple the government's ability to ensure that Iraqis gain as much economic benefit as possible from their oil.
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Originally posted by benwaredonedat:
In the very first line of this article are hints of the idea that we should give up. <snip>

If you do not agree with President Bush....fine! That is your right as an American....! But to not show support for our American military and what they are doing,that will only make for more Death of its members. That can be compaired to Vietnam.....!

We are all in this together!

God Bless America!


I AM AGAINST BUSH AND WHAT HE HAS THE MILITARY DOING. I SUPPORT THE TROOPS...BRING THEM HOME TO PROTECT US FROM WHATEVER COMES OUR WAY.
We need to take the advice of Russia and China, and STOP MESSING WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF OTHER GOVERNEMNTS, INCLUDINT SPAIN, GERMANY, ITALY, PORTUGAL, VENEZUELA, SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN, CANADA, MEXICO, ISRAEL, LEBANON, SYRIA, IRAN, IRAQ, FRANCE, AUSTRAILIA, BRAZIL, PANAMA, CHILI heeeelpppp you get the Idea.
I AM AGAINST BUSH AND WHAT HE HAS THE MILITARY DOING. I SUPPORT THE TROOPS...BRING THEM HOME TO PROTECT US FROM WHATEVER COMES OUR WAY.
We need to take the advice of Russia and China, and STOP MESSING WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF OTHER GOVERNEMNTS, INCLUDINT SPAIN, GERMANY, ITALY, PORTUGAL, VENEZUELA, SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN, CANADA, MEXICO, ISRAEL, LEBANON, SYRIA, IRAN, IRAQ, FRANCE, AUSTRAILIA, BRAZIL, PANAMA, CHILI heeeelpppp you get the Idea.[/QUOTE]

AMEN!!!!

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