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quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
They now join the ranks of other grammy winners such as Milli Vanilli & Vanilla Ice. Now the whole world knows they are far superior to non-grammy winners such as Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and Led Zeppelin. I'm so glad there is a trophy to tell me what good music is.
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
It basically shows that the music industry is out of touch with the regular people. There are some amazing artists out there, none of which were recognized last night. Personally, I haven't heard a good Dixie Chicks song yet. I have heard some surprisingly good country tunes this year, yet they get the award. This is just further proof that the grammy is simply a worthless trinket. It does not reflect the quality of the performer, just how much the isolated corporate record execs like them.
quote:Have you listened to the CD? I doubt it - you are probably one of those people who refused to buy their music because they actually had the nerve to speak their mind!
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
I've heard a couple of cuts, horrible. It has nothing to do with their political views. One of my favorite bands is RATM (figure it out) and I disagree with their politics. However, they are great musicians who made some excellent music. They also never won a grammy, thus proving my point even more.
quote:Rage Against the Machine has won a couple of Grammys.
quote:Originally posted by pba:
As far as Dixie Chicks, they didn't do any worse than any other groups that may have stated their views and wrote anti-political songs. For an example, the late John Lennon, former Beatle. everything was going well for John Lennon until he made the statement that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus Christ and the media twisted it out of context. John Lennon was meaning, at that time, more people were going to Beatle concerts than church. So, they had a big bond fire in Birmingham, Alabama presented by a radio station, and made a big promotion out of it to bring all your Beatle albums and burn them. All those people that burnt their Beatle albums were nothing but fools. I talked to a guy not too long ago who went to that bond fire and burned his Beatle albums in the fire, not realizing what his original Beatle albums would be worth today. After the Beatles broke up, John Lennon went on and recorded other songs up to his death in 1980.
As far as music is concerned, each to his own, meaning everybody doesn't like the same music, the same shirts, the same food. That's what makes the world go around. Isn't it great that we don't all think alike?
To sum it all up, you have Toby Keith, and others like him, who like to sing songs and make people think how nice it is and give you a picture that everything is going great in America. Then you have people like Neil Young reminding you that everything is not so great, like his new song Flags of Freedom, that was nominated but didn't get anywhere. And then you have the Dixie Chicks to make a stand as to how they feel about the president. I think it takes courage for these groups to put their views in songs and music. People like to hear songs of fiction, songs of joy, sad songs to make you cry, and songs about truth, just like buying books or movies. The same holds true.
"HANOI JANE" , she still went on to make a career for herself, although somewhat crippled, she has more money than I will ever even THINK of having, and that was BEFORE she married Ted.quote:I don't know who they are getting revenge against, though.
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:
I think everyone can agree to disagree. Whether you like their music or agree with them winning 5 Grammy's last night. I personally feel that Natalie's statement was taken way out of context and people such as Toby Keith took advantage of it and ran with it. Their cd sales are good and Taking the Long Way Home has been certified double platinum. We all forget that freedom of speech is one reason why our soldiers are in Iraq. It's not just for freedom of speech as long as I agree with you. I think country music stations should be ashamed for being so quick to become a part of the backlash for the comment made.
quote:Originally posted by MentalFloss:quote:I don't know who they are getting revenge against, though.
I guess the whole USA considering they couldnt sell enuff tickets to do a tour in the states. They toured primarily in Canada due to ticket sales being so poor they couldnt pay for the booked venues.
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
I used to like the Chicks, before Natalie's statements. Natalie has always come off as highly arrogant and extremely liberal and excessively mouthy to me. That didn't impact my like or dislike of the group or their music. When I heard she said "Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas." it made me sick. The fact she said it on a stage in front of thousands of folks, while overseas, while this country was at war made my blood boil. It was Anti-American plain and simple and as an American, I was offended. Maines came back to say that the remark was disrespectful, but in my opinion, it should have never been made. Therefore, I don't care if they put out music on par with Andrea Bocelli, in my mind they will always be at the bottom of the list along with Prussian Blue and I won't support them.
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:
I guess I look at the bigger picture of what are we teaching our kids? A musician or anyone who speaks out against something we don't agree with is wrong and should be punished? Do we really want to raise kids in that kind of society? Natalie Maines made a statement and even apologized for it later and yet people still can't forgive and forget... I don't understand that mentality (thank God).
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
If you've ever seen the actual clip of her saying that, it's almost like she was joking. I don't think she meant to be disrepectful. Like someone said earlier, I think the media ran with it and artists like Toby Keith and Reba McEntire used it for their advantage. Nevertheless, the cd has sold millions and I noticed that on Amazon.com today it is #2, buoyed by the awards last night.
Like Meanasasnake, I bought the cd as a sign of support. I don't even like country music. I loved this cd though. There are outstanding songs on it, especially "Easy Silence" and "Lullaby."
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
If you've ever seen the actual clip of her saying that, it's almost like she was joking. I don't think she meant to be disrepectful. Like someone said earlier, I think the media ran with it and artists like Toby Keith and Reba McEntire used it for their advantage. Nevertheless, the cd has sold millions and I noticed that on Amazon.com today it is #2, buoyed by the awards last night.
Like Meanasasnake, I bought the cd as a sign of support. I don't even like country music. I loved this cd though. There are outstanding songs on it, especially "Easy Silence" and "Lullaby."
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:quote:Originally posted by David L.:
If you've ever seen the actual clip of her saying that, it's almost like she was joking. I don't think she meant to be disrepectful. Like someone said earlier, I think the media ran with it and artists like Toby Keith and Reba McEntire used it for their advantage. Nevertheless, the cd has sold millions and I noticed that on Amazon.com today it is #2, buoyed by the awards last night.
Like Meanasasnake, I bought the cd as a sign of support. I don't even like country music. I loved this cd though. There are outstanding songs on it, especially "Easy Silence" and "Lullaby."
I did the same thing--I bought the cd to show my support for them! We have thrown out the fact they have songs about abused women, soldiers,etc... It's all irrelevant now just by one sentence. Go figure...
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:
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quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
I beleive that bashing the President in a foreign land in a public forum is very anti-American. Maines has / had every right to say what she said. I do not deny her that. I find what she said repulsive and as such do not choose to support her music or her group. I don't hate her. I don't wish her any harm.
As toI am teaching mine that there are authority figures. Teachers, parents, and the President for example. We don't have to agree with what they do or what they say, but we do have to show them some respect.quote:what are we teaching our kids?
I never said the Chicks should be punished or blacklisted or what-have-you. I said that I do not agree with their political views, lack of respect for this country's President, and lack of thought before making a very powerful statement. Because of that, I don't support them.
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
PBA, that is an excellent post!
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
There is a vast difference between:
"I don't agree with the President's policy on Iraq."
and
"Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."
One is respectful and thoughtful and sounds intelligent; the other is just plain tacky.
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
There is a vast difference between:
"I don't agree with the President's policy on Iraq."
and
"Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."
One is respectful and thoughtful and sounds intelligent; the other is just plain tacky.
