Not impressed with their music at all, and I will generally listen to anything.
What she said: It was her right to say it. However, just because we have the right to say something doesn't always make it appropriate to say. It would do many in the entertainment industry (and elsewhere) to learn this.
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
I own "Fly". I'm not gonna burn it, but I'm not going to line their pockets any further, either. Why? Because I do not spend my money to support people and / or causes that I don't agree with.
Why is it that I am bashed for saying I don't support them? Aren't we free to support who we want and free to disagree with other's opinions? That is all I did. I expressed that I don't agree with their opinions, so I therefore do not support them.
The hostility on this board is amazing some days!
Hostility and Bash? Where? Gee,What do you call hostility and bash? is it when one disagrees with you or make a point?
pba, you have no opinions and you don't make points. You simply spam the forums with links to left wing sites. I still think you're only here to direct traffic to the websites you frequent.
I knoww i am late in this discusion but i support the chicks. It dont matter if her oppinion against that of Bush's, She said what she thought. Sure she could have played the system and made the nashville class and political factions happy and went somewhere faster. This kind of rebelisim is what the very best musisans of our time was all about.
Don't forget, this same kind of thing is what opened us up to the freedoms we enjoy today.
Don't forget, this same kind of thing is what opened us up to the freedoms we enjoy today.
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
pba, you have no opinions and you don't make points. You simply spam the forums with links to left wing sites. I still think you're only here to direct traffic to the websites you frequent.
Sorry my left wing gets in the way of you right wing.Think what you want,I do.I have opinions,but my opinions don't matter to people like you.People of your kind is scary,you would sell your freedom.
quote:Originally posted by unclegus:
I knoww i am late in this discusion but i support the chicks. It dont matter if her oppinion against that of Bush's, She said what she thought. Sure she could have played the system and made the nashville class and political factions happy and went somewhere faster. This kind of rebelisim is what the very best musisans of our time was all about.
Don't forget, this same kind of thing is what opened us up to the freedoms we enjoy today.
AMEN!!
quote:Originally posted by themax:
Give me Alison Krauss, She has more talent and a better voice IMO. Plus very easy on the eye.
I absolutely ADORE Alison Krauss!!! Manda sings her songs, and sounds just like her... The voice of an Angel!
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
There is a vast difference between:
"I don't agree with the President's policy on Iraq."
and
"Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."
One is respectful and thoughtful and sounds intelligent; the other is just plain tacky.
I agree, it WAS indeed tacky... and should not have been said, but how long does people have to crucify them for it. They apologized immediately, and like someone said above, and I also agreed with them because I saw it... it appeared as though they were kidding around, like friends, like family, like forums do ...
I say that they SHOULD be forgiven... God forgives people for much much much more than that.
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
There is a vast difference between:
"I don't agree with the President's policy on Iraq."
and
"Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."
One is respectful and thoughtful and sounds intelligent; the other is just plain tacky.
I agree, it WAS indeed tacky... and should not have been said, but how long does people have to crucify them for it. They apologized immediately, and like someone said above, and I also agreed with them because I saw it... it appeared as though they were kidding around, like friends, like family, like forums do ...
I say that they SHOULD be forgiven... God forgives people for much much much more than that.
AMEN!
quote:Originally posted by pba:
Dixie Chicks get their revenge
The Dixie Chicks completed a defiant comeback on Sunday night, capturing five Grammy awards after being shunned by the country music establishment over the group’s anti-Bush comments leading up to the Iraq invasion.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/wp/2007/02/12/2069
Good evidence that the Dixie Chicks are not the only people Ashamed of GEORGE "DUMBYA" BUSH.
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
There is a vast difference between:
"I don't agree with the President's policy on Iraq."
and
"Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."
One is respectful and thoughtful and sounds intelligent; the other is just plain tacky.
There sure is. And, Just so YOU KNOW, I am ashamed of the country that elected GEORGE W. BUSH PRESIDENT TWICE.
Now, if you want to say I am lower than a snakes belley for saying that or that I should be deported for it KEEP THIS IN MIND. About 70% of the country think GEORGE WAS A MASSIVE MISTAKE.
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:quote:Originally posted by David L.:
If you've ever seen the actual clip of her saying that, it's almost like she was joking. I don't think she meant to be disrepectful. Like someone said earlier, I think the media ran with it and artists like Toby Keith and Reba McEntire used it for their advantage. Nevertheless, the cd has sold millions and I noticed that on Amazon.com today it is #2, buoyed by the awards last night.
Like Meanasasnake, I bought the cd as a sign of support. I don't even like country music. I loved this cd though. There are outstanding songs on it, especially "Easy Silence" and "Lullaby."
I did the same thing--I bought the cd to show my support for them! We have thrown out the fact they have songs about abused women, soldiers,etc... It's all irrelevant now just by one sentence. Go figure...
Bama Girl, She may have been trying to get audience support. She was after all an American, in England as the MOST UNPOPULAR WAR IN HISTORY WAS BEING STARTED.
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
I beleive that bashing the President in a foreign land in a public forum is very anti-American. Maines has / had every right to say what she said. I do not deny her that. I find what she said repulsive and as such do not choose to support her music or her group. I don't hate her. I don't wish her any harm.
As toI am teaching mine that there are authority figures. Teachers, parents, and the President for example. We don't have to agree with what they do or what they say, but we do have to show them some respect.quote:what are we teaching our kids?
I never said the Chicks should be punished or blacklisted or what-have-you. I said that I do not agree with their political views, lack of respect for this country's President, and lack of thought before making a very powerful statement. Because of that, I don't support them.
Smart Chick,
You have an excellent child rearing plan, until you child runs up against an authority figure who is ALSO a criminal. Teachers have been known to take their students on BURGLARY OUTINGS. Police officer have been convicted of Statutory Rape. Priests may have bankrupted the Roman Catholic Church. You need to teach them to OBEY BUT QUESTION.
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Well, they ARE talented, so why does their political stance factor in????
Just right here on this forum, there are so many different views on politics it is unreal.. BUT, does it effect our career? No, and it shouldnt...
If you dont like what they do or do not believe in, dont buy them... if you do like them, then buy them....
My simple point of view.
Kindred Spirit,
It was not there political opinion that matters in this conrroversy IT IS THE PUNISHMENT THEY HAVE BEEN SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THEIR POLITICAL POSITION.
When they were blackballed by Clear Channel Radio they were being punished by a company that INSISTS ON ITS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. But will not allow it for others, even off their airwaves.
THE HYPOCRICY OF THE ESTABLISHMENT KNOWS NO BOUNDS.
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:
I guess I look at the bigger picture of what are we teaching our kids? A musician or anyone who speaks out against something we don't agree with is wrong and should be punished? Do we really want to raise kids in that kind of society? Natalie Maines made a statement and even apologized for it later and yet people still can't forgive and forget... I don't understand that mentality (thank God).
Right, and what is not easy for me to understand is why no one has started a Boycott of the UNAMERICAN WAY THE ESTABLISHMENT TREATED THEM.
Disagreeing is one thing we all have the right to do that. But to be ashamed of one's own statesman is different.
We have the right to disagree, but be not shamed by any one.
We have the right to disagree, but be not shamed by any one.
quote:Originally posted by MentalFloss:quote:I don't know who they are getting revenge against, though.
I guess the whole USA considering they couldnt sell enuff tickets to do a tour in the states. They toured primarily in Canada due to ticket sales being so poor they couldnt pay for the booked venues.
Did you bother to look at the LOCATIONS cancelled? Houston, and Memphis. Did you notice that the Toronto, Canada Date SOLD OUT IN EIGHT MINUTES. They are taking a beating in the USA...and making a fortune off shore. I would be complaing more that they have outsourced their production, than saying they are gettig what they deserve. THEY ARE, THEY MAY BE THE MOST POPULAR THREE AMERICANS IN THE WORLD.
themaxquote:Originally posted by themax:
Disagreeing is one thing we all have the right to do that. But to be ashamed of one's own statesman is different.
We have the right to disagree, but be not shamed by any one.
I would agree with you except for one thing, I am ashamed. The "statesman" who invaded Iraq caused me to be ashamed. If I were to say otherwise I would be lying. If I were to remain silent I would be enabeling. I will not do either. SO, I will say again. I AM ASHAMED THAT GEORGE WALKER BUSH IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to say that again.
I have been a Dixie Chicks fan for years. I still love their music, but do not love them. It was not just the statement made on foreign land, not just the "sorry, but not sorry" statement, but their general overall attitude. Fame just got to them. I feel that their overall smug, self-important attitude is just not for me. I still love their music, as I have stated, but I do not enjoy it as much any more. I feel it is also my right to feel the way I do and not to buy their product any more. It is not "black lising", just choosing not to buy. Now they only stand for negative comments to me. I agree that it was their political viewpoint that won them the awards this year; others were more deserving IMO.
That is your right Mr. EdeKit. And I respect your right.
quote:Sorry my left wing gets in the way of you right wing.Think what you want,I do.I have opinions,but my opinions don't matter to people like you.People of your kind is scary,you would sell your freedom.
Thanks for proving my point again, no original thought just a broken record.
The Dixie Chicks had the right to say what they wanted, it was their concert. The fans and radio stations had the right to respond. They broke one of the most important rules as an entertainer, never insult your fans. I saw an interview where one of them, not the fat one, said that country music fans were rednecks and low class, their fans were more sophisticated. So songs like "Earl" and "Sin Wagon" are sophisticated? Not only is their music terrible, but they are arrogant pre-madonnas who won grammys out of pity. The grammys have embarrassed themselves yet again by showing how rigged their awards show really is.
If it was a mistake in your eyes. Can you forgive and forget? Let it go ! The Dixie Chicks deserve another chance. Let it go.
I don't think the deserve another chance until they admit their mistakes. When they received their Left Wing Liberal anti-America non-music award Sunday night they made mention that it was due to their political views. IMO...that tells me what the really are, the Dipsy Chicks. They are not much different than Ana Nicole Smith.
I applaude the restraint the Dixie Chicks showed wehen they made that remark. Personally , I think George W. Bush is an embarrassment to our country.
quote:Originally posted by themax:
Disagreeing is one thing we all have the right to do that. But to be ashamed of one's own statesman is different.
We have the right to disagree, but be not shamed by any one.
LOL themax... sure wish I had of known that back during the time I had to take all THREE of my kids to the grocery store or a resturant!!! LOL... shame? OH YEAH!!! hehe....
quote:Originally posted by pepelp:
I have been a Dixie Chicks fan for years. I still love their music, but do not love them. It was not just the statement made on foreign land, not just the "sorry, but not sorry" statement, but their general overall attitude. Fame just got to them. I feel that their overall smug, self-important attitude is just not for me. I still love their music, as I have stated, but I do not enjoy it as much any more. I feel it is also my right to feel the way I do and not to buy their product any more. It is not "black lising", just choosing not to buy. Now they only stand for negative comments to me. I agree that it was their political viewpoint that won them the awards this year; others were more deserving IMO.
From what I have seen in my long life... FAME and MONEY gets to everyone!!!! No one is immune...
quote:Originally posted by that smart chick:
All of this "forgiveness" speech is absurd! Forgive the Chicks??? What? It's not about forgive and forget and live and let live. It's about a group who pushed their political agenda on stage and then when the consequences rained down, they turned tail and tried to white wash it.
I love Kenny Chesney's music. I have paid LOTS of money to see him in concert (great seats) and have every one of his CD's and two on cassette. I'm actually a card carrying member of the Official Fan Club.I have no idea if the man even has political views, let alone what they are. Why? Because he doesn't bring them on stage with him. Now if he popped off tomorrow and professed that he is a bleeding heart liberal or that he hates this country and all that it stands for or that he thinks the President is a joke, etc... things would be different. I wouldn't support him any longer because once an entertainer brings their politics on stage, then I beleive that by supporting their music you are supporting their politics. The Chicks definitely have politics I don't agree with! It's not personal against them. If Hillary made an album, I wouldn't buy it either.
That is cool... it is your belief, and you have every right to it!!! I don't happen to agree, but hey... do any of us agree all the time?
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:Sorry my left wing gets in the way of you right wing.Think what you want,I do.I have opinions,but my opinions don't matter to people like you.People of your kind is scary,you would sell your freedom.
Thanks for proving my point again, no original thought just a broken record.
The Dixie Chicks had the right to say what they wanted, it was their concert. The fans and radio stations had the right to respond. They broke one of the most important rules as an entertainer, never insult your fans. I saw an interview where one of them, not the fat one, said that country music fans were rednecks and low class, their fans were more sophisticated. So songs like "Earl" and "Sin Wagon" are sophisticated? Not only is their music terrible, but they are arrogant pre-madonnas who won grammys out of pity. The grammys have embarrassed themselves yet again by showing how rigged their awards show really is.
They may be all horrible like depicted here... but they have enough money that sadly, they care not what any of us think
... They ARE talented, no doubt... can they "ad lib" in front of a camera? Nope, that is when they chew on their feet! lol...
That’s the thing, for me, which stands out the most. Fame. Now, I already spoke my opinion on page one of this thread. Had I been at this concert and said the same quote she stated to the surrounding people, they would have easily dismissed me. My dad and various family and friends of mine are against Bush. When they say things similar about how embarrassing he is, it doesn’t come off so crass. The time and the place, with fame thrown in, enhanced the tackiness of the situation. Any of you can say that Bush is an embarrassment to the United States, but it wouldn’t resonate like it does when someone with fame says it in a foreign country. This is my opinion, just like it’s my opinion that I’m possibly talking to a brick wall now.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
I don't think the deserve another chance until they admit their mistakes. When they received their Left Wing Liberal anti-America non-music award Sunday night they made mention that it was due to their political views. IMO...that tells me what the really are, the Dipsy Chicks. They are not much different than Ana Nicole Smith.
If you had been paying attention during all of the Right Wing attack on the Dixie Chicks--they did offer an apology. But, as it happens too often, that apology was completely ignored
I don't think the deserve another chance until they admit their mistakes. When they received their Left Wing Liberal anti-America non-music award Sunday night they made mention that it was due to their political views. IMO...that tells me what the really are, the Dipsy Chicks. They are not much different than Ana Nicole Smith.
If you had been paying attention during all of the Right Wing attack on the Dixie Chicks--they did offer an apology. But, as it happens too often, that apology was completely ignored
quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
I don't think the deserve another chance until they admit their mistakes. When they received their Left Wing Liberal anti-America non-music award Sunday night they made mention that it was due to their political views. IMO...that tells me what the really are, the Dipsy Chicks. They are not much different than Ana Nicole Smith.
If you had been paying attention during all of the Right Wing attack on the Dixie Chicks--they did offer an apology. But, as it happens too often, that apology was completely ignored
Go Girl!! Yep, I would like For George Bush to offer apology to our U.S.Troops for the lies on the Iraq War!!
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:Sorry my left wing gets in the way of you right wing.Think what you want,I do.I have opinions,but my opinions don't matter to people like you.People of your kind is scary,you would sell your freedom.
Thanks for proving my point again, no original thought just a broken record.
The Dixie Chicks had the right to say what they wanted, it was their concert. The fans and radio stations had the right to respond. They broke one of the most important rules as an entertainer, never insult your fans. I saw an interview where one of them, not the fat one, said that country music fans were rednecks and low class, their fans were more sophisticated. So songs like "Earl" and "Sin Wagon" are sophisticated? Not only is their music terrible, but they are arrogant pre-madonnas who won grammys out of pity. The grammys have embarrassed themselves yet again by showing how rigged their awards show really is.
Although they may not win, you can't ignore that they are nominated for several awards at the CMT Awards this year. Maybe country music is finally seeing the light considering the Dixie Chicks are nominated for Video of the Year, Group Video of the Year and Video Director of the Year? I guess country music fans nominated them out of pity also?
quote:Originally posted by pba:quote:Originally posted by bamagurl:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
I don't think the deserve another chance until they admit their mistakes. When they received their Left Wing Liberal anti-America non-music award Sunday night they made mention that it was due to their political views. IMO...that tells me what the really are, the Dipsy Chicks. They are not much different than Ana Nicole Smith.
If you had been paying attention during all of the Right Wing attack on the Dixie Chicks--they did offer an apology. But, as it happens too often, that apology was completely ignored
Go Girl!! Yep, I would like For George Bush to offer apology to our U.S.Troops for the lies on the Iraq War!!
Spoken like a true American!!!!
quote:Although they may not win, you can't ignore that they are nominated for several awards at the CMT Awards this year. Maybe country music is finally seeing the light considering the Dixie Chicks are nominated for Video of the Year, Group Video of the Year and Video Director of the Year? I guess country music fans nominated them out of pity also?
I don't know how the CMA's chooses it's nominees, but I'd be surprised if country record execs didn't have a major say in it. Music awards mean about as much to me as a minor league curling match in Sweden.
Congrats to all of the previous winners that tdreader listed! We all have our favorites in music and yes, there are some who should win every year or more often than they do. That's just the way it goes