Face it, Vic.

Hi Vic,

 

And, not a one of them refer, in any way, to the Roman Catholic church or the Roman Catholic religion!

 

I notice that you, or the one (Vatican source) from whom you copy/pasted this -- has erroneously applied a totally unBiblical comment to a few of the Scripture verses.  But, that applies only in the brainwashed minds of the Vatican.

 

If YOU can show us, from your own understanding (exclusive of Vatican brainwashing) where and HOW any of the verses support Roman Catholicism -- I am interested.  Otherwise, this list does nothing to disprove my earlier statement that, Biblically, the Roman Catholic church does not have a leg to stand upon.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

WOW.  you answered him quickly.

Bill Gray is the one who "doesn't have a leg" to stand on. How can he throw stones at the Catholic Church when he can't defend his own beliefs. 
ABSURD.

 

Vic, my Friend,

 

Neither YOU nor you Vatican gods can prove any of those Scripture verses support the Roman Catholic church or the Roman Catholic religion.  But, since I know you will not, and cannot, attempt to prove otherwise -- I will now just walk away.

 

Okay, now is the time you post more of your childish Roman Catholic ranting and raving, name calling, cursing, and salivating all over yourself -- to prove you are a good Roman Catholic.  So, proceed!

 

Bless your brainwashed childish little heart!

 

Bill

 

Good grief he listed chapter and verse.  Do you need it puréed and spoon fed to you??
You a accuse Invictus of copy/pasting. Meanwhile your inability to extrapolate on his cheaper and verse post are very telling of what your abilities are...

Hi David,

 

Yes, he pulled a bunch of Scripture verses out of the Bible -- and he told us the Vatican's "this is what you say" words.  But, he has NOT shown us how ANY of those verses Biblically apply to the Roman Catholic church or religion. 

 

That is what I am asking.  Show me Biblical proof, not Vatican rhetoric, of what these verses are teaching.   He will not -- for he CANNOT!   Neither can you -- without using the Apocrypha, traditions, and other extra-Biblical writings.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Well, for almost 400 years there was no written New Testament to fall back on.  All of the apostles and disciples taught orally for the first 400 years.  Yes, you might say, but didn't Paul, Peter, John, Luke, etc., write everything down in their epistles and gospels?  Yes, they did, but none of it was widely available to geographically separated disciples and it wasn't part of "The Bible" until the Councils of Rome, Hippo, and Carthage put the 27 books of the New Testament together in 382 AD, 393 AD, and 397 AD.  At that time, it took on the mantle of infallible scripture with the Old Testament.  Interestingly, Protestants today accept this Catholic "Tradition" of these  27 books of the Bible being divinely inspired.  Protestants also accept the Catholic Tradition of meeting on Sunday, rather than the Jewish custom of meeting on Saturday.

People who translate the bible into their vernacular might want to put their particular spin on a verse, like Luther did with Romans 3:28, when he inserted the word "alone" after "faith"  ("For we hold that a man is justified by faith [alone] apart from works of law"), a word that was not in the Latin text from St. Jerome.  He justified it based on his personal opinion on what the verse should have said, even though it directly contradicts James 2:24 ("You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone").  So Tradition took a hit there, and the whole Protestant Reformation began, based on "Sola Fide", or the erroneous doctrine of being saved by "Faith Alone".  Scripture cannot be in conflict with Scripture, and one of the ways this is guaranteed is by Sacred Tradition.

This is not about Vatican "brainwashing". This is biblical. 
It would be nice BG if you would stop referring to the Vatican as brainwashes.  You don't have to brainwashed to read and understand.....

Matthew 2:23:And he went and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled, "He shall be called a Nazarene."(This "he shall be called a Nazarene" prophecy is not in written scripture anywhere).

Matthew 23:2:"The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat;"(Moses' seat is not mentioned anywhere in written scripture).

1 Corinthians 10:4:"and all drank the same supernatural drink. For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ." (Nowhere in the Old Testament does it say that a rock "followed" the Israelites in the desert.)

2 Timothy 3:8: "As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of corrupt mind and counterfeit faith;" (These 2 individuals who opposed Moses are not written in the Old Testament).

Hebrews 11:35:  "Women received their dead by resurrection. Some were tortured, refusing to accept release, that they might rise again to a better life" (This is a direct reference to 2 Maccabees 7, which Luther threw out of his bible in the 16th century.  This story cannot be found anywhere in the Protestant Bible.  It is in the Catholic Bible, and has been since the 4th century.)

Sacred Tradition does NOT refer to individual practices and customs, such as the language of the Mass, kneeling or standing for Holy Communion, eating or not eating meat on Friday, etc.  Rather, it is the oral teaching of Jesus Christ handed on to the Apostles and the Church, which carries equal weight with the Church's book, the Bible. 
Sacred Scripture does condemn in many places the traditions of man (having to do with Jewish practices about not healing on the Sabbath, hoarding money, not helping Samaritans, etc), but those have NOTHING to do with the Traditions Paul is talking about below.
Here are some great bible verses which help to explain Sacred Tradition:
1 Corinthians 11:2: I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you"
2 Thessalonians 2:15: So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.
2 Thessalonians 3:6:Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.

Interesting how Protestants follow catholic traditions and don't even realize - BG - don't let that scare you.

Interesting how Protestants follow catholic traditions and don't even realize - BG - don't let that scare you.

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They follow pagan traditions too. Check your PM.

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Listen to me lying, crying billie.

The Vatican didn't supply the Bible verses, the Bible did.

Nor the subject of the Bible verse. Self explanatory, OK? Still with me?

　

 

Blame this on the Vatican. The Catholic Church has been here for over

two thousand years. The Church was built from the above list of Bible

verses plus many more if you search the Bible. What Church do you

believe Jesus was talking about in the Bible when he addressed John

or Matthew or maybe any other Apostle about the Church he said he

was going to build? The recorded history from the Apostles, Doctors of

the Church and the earliest writers of the Church left an unbroken time

line from the beginning to the present day. It's all documented and with

the promise of Jesus to protect the Church to the end of time.

 

From what is written in the Bible it isn't that complicated to ascertain

the wishes of Jesus for his Church. What would be hard to comprehend

is Jesus waiting all these centuries for you to play dress up on Sunday

and do your holier than thou act.

 

If it wasn't for the good protestants on this forum that are good at heart

and don't deserve the wake that trails you, I would verbally smash your

face against a sharp rock. Even though you have no compunction for

the ones you have ran off with your satanic style theology.

 

So You don't like what I said and repost something else for the twentieth time.