What is going on at Faith Church? I've been out of town and just heard that Pastor Eddie resigned.
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I heard he was going to become the Offensive Coordinator at Alabama, but probably just a rumor. 3 2 1 REMOVED
There has already been a discussion on here about him & the reason he resigned. It got out of hand, so needless to say, the mods deleted it.
quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
What is going on at Faith Church? I've been out of town and just heard that Pastor Eddie resigned.
I find it quite interesting that, like clockwork, a "New Kid on the Block" pops in and "innocently" asks this same question.
As I've stated before, if someone did something illegal (and there are NO indications of that) them I want to know. But for this "New Kid" (or organized group of New Kids) to keep popping in here trying to publicize a private matter . . . Well, that's just immoral.
To GOFISH: This "new kid on the block" was simply asking if it was true if he had resigned. I did not ask "why" he resigned or if there was something underhanded going on. You really read a lot into my post which was simply not there. And as for your conspiracy theory that there is a group of people bringing this subject up for some sort of hidden agenda, well, that is not the case with me. As far as this being a "private" matter - Pastor Eddy is in a public position and is responsible to his flock. The details of why he resigned, however, are up to his discretion to reveal if he so chooses and as far as judgement, that is up to God. I really hate that, as I said, that you read so much into my post which was not intended. I actually was very concerned for him, his family and his church. I have been in ministry before myself, and understand that those people are human and susceptible to the same, if not more, temptations. And I do not say that assuming that he has done anything wrong. For all I know, god has called him elsewhere. You condemned me for making assumptions about Pastor Eddy, but boy you sure made a lot of assumptions about me that weren't true, also. I understand that you were probably being defensive out of an attempt to protect Brother Eddy, and I admire you for that...but you could make your point much better with a little more kindness and a lot less "pointing the finger".
lynn, you came on a public forum and asked "What is going on at Faith Church? I've been out of town and just heard that Pastor Eddie resigned." If you are truly concerned & by all means you may well be, call the church.
Just so you know, you are I think the third or fourth person to start a thread on this. That's why we expected more of the same, meaning gossip.
Also, Pastor Eddy is not in a public position. He held no public office & does not answer to any of us here. He was the pastor of his church, which makes this his and his church's business. JMHO
Just so you know, you are I think the third or fourth person to start a thread on this. That's why we expected more of the same, meaning gossip.
Also, Pastor Eddy is not in a public position. He held no public office & does not answer to any of us here. He was the pastor of his church, which makes this his and his church's business. JMHO
If you all were expecting gossip, then why were you so quick to read the post? Seems like you would have steered clear of something you thought so 'immoral". And I posted on this forum because I expected a friendly place to find out some info...boy was I wrong. Religous people are often the most unkind...so sad. Btw, I did not say Bro. Eddy was responsible to any of us here. I said he was responsible to his flock, which, in case you don't understand means his church. Once again, you also were assuming i wanted someone to "dish the dirt" on him. I really wish I had reworded my original post to make it clear that I only wanted to confirm whether he had indeed resigned. I never thought so much would be read into it, nor was I aware that anyone had previously posted with less than honorable intentions.
quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
I actually was very concerned for him, his family and his church.
I believe the technical term for this is "BS." If you were concerned for this man out of Christian love, you would have asked someone discretely outside of a public forum. What you are doing is simply wrong.
quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
If you all were expecting gossip, then why were you so quick to read the post?
Personally, I saw it and wondered, "Hey, is this yet another example of the Christian feeding frenzy over the demise of church leader?" And yes, yes it was.
quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
Religous people are often the most unkind...so sad.
No arguments there.
Well, think what you will, GOFish. I have stated my intent, but it seems that you still think i was out to get Bro. Eddy. It seems that i have created a feeding frenzy, both for Bro. Eddy and myself. Sad that Christians always eat their own kind without giving someone the benefit of the doubt.
And I use the term "christian" very loosely where some are concerned.
And I use the term "christian" very loosely where some are concerned.
Lynnblount, maybe you should pull up a chair, sit for a while and see how things work around here. Then, look in the mirror, before you start being so judgmental on others?
Thank you GoFish for calling a spade a spade on this one....it does happen so often -- this was a discussion from what 3 weeks ago? Has this person been out of town for 3 whole weeks and just now heard the latest gossip? I kind of doubt it.
Like I said in ALL 4 OR 5 threads before -- if you have questions go to the church and ask them -- they will answer you -- it may not be the juicy gossip you hope for, but they will answer you. If you get a big, "it's church business" don't say I didn't warn ya.
Like I said in ALL 4 OR 5 threads before -- if you have questions go to the church and ask them -- they will answer you -- it may not be the juicy gossip you hope for, but they will answer you. If you get a big, "it's church business" don't say I didn't warn ya.
You all are the ones being judgemental of me..and yes I have been out of town for about a month. I sincerely apologize for starting this whole thing and having you all think that I wanted something bad said about Pastor Eddy. You are judging me for something of which i had no intent. Just because i'm new here dowsn't mean i'm the bad guy. That's all.
quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
If you all were expecting gossip, then why were you so quick to read the post? Seems like you would have steered clear of something you thought so 'immoral". And I posted on this forum because I expected a friendly place to find out some info...boy was I wrong. Religous people are often the most unkind...so sad. Btw, I did not say Bro. Eddy was responsible to any of us here. I said he was responsible to his flock, which, in case you don't understand means his church. Once again, you also were assuming i wanted someone to "dish the dirt" on him. I really wish I had reworded my original post to make it clear that I only wanted to confirm whether he had indeed resigned. I never thought so much would be read into it, nor was I aware that anyone had previously posted with less than honorable intentions.
To report it so that it would be removed. I did report it. My exact words to TD were "another thread directed at Pastor Eddy & Faith church - do whatever you think best".
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
If you all were expecting gossip, then why were you so quick to read the post? Seems like you would have steered clear of something you thought so 'immoral". And I posted on this forum because I expected a friendly place to find out some info...boy was I wrong. Religous people are often the most unkind...so sad. Btw, I did not say Bro. Eddy was responsible to any of us here. I said he was responsible to his flock, which, in case you don't understand means his church. Once again, you also were assuming i wanted someone to "dish the dirt" on him. I really wish I had reworded my original post to make it clear that I only wanted to confirm whether he had indeed resigned. I never thought so much would be read into it, nor was I aware that anyone had previously posted with less than honorable intentions.
To report it so that it would be removed. I did report it. My exact words to TD were "another thread directed at Pastor Eddy & Faith church - do whatever you think best".
Lynn, as in Joy's previous post -- if you only wanted to know if he resigned -- all you had to do was call the church and they would have informed you of that....
As to makingthedaygoby -- here we go again with another 1 post wonder chiming in about something we have already been through and no one got the dirt they wanted the first 4 go arounds...
Sorry, I know I sound ticked...just frustrated...
quote:i go to faith and Bro Eddy got up before the church and admitted he had sinned.....He sinned and the church said they forgive him....
i am glad to know that whatever happened has been forgiven..that should be the end of it..thanks, makingtheday, for the info..
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Alright, I'll admit that my post might not be directed to the appropriate person. A new poster is, after all, a genuinely wonderful thing. They keep us from being static, and I like that.
Unfortunately, though, there ARE some (to use DC's phrase) "one-post wonders" who appear to have intentions that are less than pure. To me, this post came off as just that.
Besides, I like that little pic.
That said, I'll gladly offer it with the caveat that it should only be taken personally if it suits the original poster's intentions.
Best,
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Alright, I'll admit that my post might not be directed to the appropriate person. A new poster is, after all, a genuinely wonderful thing. They keep us from being static, and I like that.
Unfortunately, though, there ARE some (to use DC's phrase) "one-post wonders" who appear to have intentions that are less than pure. To me, this post came off as just that.
Besides, I like that little pic.
That said, I'll gladly offer it with the caveat that it should only be taken personally if it suits the original poster's intentions.
Best,
e
quote:Originally posted by lynnblount:
To GOFISH: This "new kid on the block" was simply asking if it was true if he had resigned. I did not ask "why" he resigned or if there was something underhanded going on. You really read a lot into my post which was simply not there. And as for your conspiracy theory that there is a group of people bringing this subject up for some sort of hidden agenda, well, that is not the case with me. As far as this being a "private" matter - Pastor Eddy is in a public position and is responsible to his flock. The details of why he resigned, however, are up to his discretion to reveal if he so chooses and as far as judgement, that is up to God. I really hate that, as I said, that you read so much into my post which was not intended. I actually was very concerned for him, his family and his church. I have been in ministry before myself, and understand that those people are human and susceptible to the same, if not more, temptations. And I do not say that assuming that he has done anything wrong. For all I know, god has called him elsewhere. You condemned me for making assumptions about Pastor Eddy, but boy you sure made a lot of assumptions about me that weren't true, also. I understand that you were probably being defensive out of an attempt to protect Brother Eddy, and I admire you for that...but you could make your point much better with a little more kindness and a lot less "pointing the finger".
You asked what was going on, THEN asked about Pastor Eddy/Eddie.
You said here you were once in the ministry, and yet I find it odd that you capitalize the words Pastor Eddy and yet you put God in lower case. Very interesting.
The reason some people are saying what they are saying is that this has been discussed so much on here already. You could have looked back on older posts and probably found all the answers you wanted from those. People just get tired of the same 'ole, same 'ole subject from someone with a new account, shortly AFTER the subject calmed down.
GoFish blurts as follows:
[QUOTE] But for this "New Kid" (or organized group of New Kids) to keep popping in here trying to publicize a private matter . . . Well, that's just immoral.[QUOTE]
"private matter?" Not so, Oh piscine one. Those who are installed as "pastors" of big honkin' churches in this or other towns get all kinds of attention in the media and many of them cultivate that attention when it reflects favorably upon them and their flocks. There is no reason, then, that when these self-promoted exemplars of truth and goodness and "fall from grace," their departures from the narrow path should be immunized from general knowledge. There is nothing "immoral" on the part of lynnblount's honest inquiry about what has happened at Faith Church in her absence from the area. Your assertion of immorality is patently absurd. If you are going to make that kind of accusation, you should, at minimum, explain why you would levy such a harsh indictment.
[QUOTE] But for this "New Kid" (or organized group of New Kids) to keep popping in here trying to publicize a private matter . . . Well, that's just immoral.[QUOTE]
"private matter?" Not so, Oh piscine one. Those who are installed as "pastors" of big honkin' churches in this or other towns get all kinds of attention in the media and many of them cultivate that attention when it reflects favorably upon them and their flocks. There is no reason, then, that when these self-promoted exemplars of truth and goodness and "fall from grace," their departures from the narrow path should be immunized from general knowledge. There is nothing "immoral" on the part of lynnblount's honest inquiry about what has happened at Faith Church in her absence from the area. Your assertion of immorality is patently absurd. If you are going to make that kind of accusation, you should, at minimum, explain why you would levy such a harsh indictment.
I agree with you, sort of. If this were Andy Stanley, Rick Warren, John Vaughan, etc then it would be public knowledge. But this was a guy at a medium sized church in Florence, AL. He had his issue, he handled it with his church, end of story. And, the big beef that many have with this person "asking an innocent question" is that first, the question has been asked - repeatedly. The person says they are concerned for Pastor Eddy. Fine, call Pastor Eddy or the church and express your concern. Do not go on a public forum where any dirty laundry that might be aired can come out for God and everyone to see, talk about, pick apart, and comment upon. That is just tacky. Like Dixie said, call a spade a spade. If the posted wanted to know the dirt, she should have come out and said it. Not played the "oh I am so righteous and have honorable intentions!" role once she was called out for stirring the pot.quote:Originally posted by beternU:
"private matter?" Not so, Oh piscine one. Those who are installed as "pastors" of big honkin' churches in this or other towns get all kinds of attention in the media and many of them cultivate that attention when it reflects favorably upon them and their flocks. There is no reason, then, that when these self-promoted exemplars of truth and goodness and "fall from grace," their departures from the narrow path should be immunized from general knowledge.
quote:Originally posted by T S C:I agree with you, sort of. If this were Andy Stanley, Rick Warren, John Vaughan, etc then it would be public knowledge. But this was a guy at a medium sized church in Florence, AL. He had his issue, he handled it with his church, end of story. And, the big beef that many have with this person "asking an innocent question" is that first, the question has been asked - repeatedly. The person says they are concerned for Pastor Eddy. Fine, call Pastor Eddy or the church and express your concern. Do not go on a public forum where any dirty laundry that might be aired can come out for God and everyone to see, talk about, pick apart, and comment upon. That is just tacky. Like Dixie said, call a spade a spade. If the posted wanted to know the dirt, she should have come out and said it. Not played the "oh I am so righteous and have honorable intentions!" role once she was called out for stirring the pot.quote:Originally posted by beternU:
"private matter?" Not so, Oh piscine one. Those who are installed as "pastors" of big honkin' churches in this or other towns get all kinds of attention in the media and many of them cultivate that attention when it reflects favorably upon them and their flocks. There is no reason, then, that when these self-promoted exemplars of truth and goodness and "fall from grace," their departures from the narrow path should be immunized from general knowledge.
"medium sized church"???!!!
Unless I have missed the mark rather widely, Faith Church is one of the two or three largest churches in Florence, Alabama and they are probably the most publicized of all local churches, since the Times Daily seems to dote on them and in the past has given lots of column inches to their now-departed pastor, including one interview type article where he disclosed some purportedly special vision or experience from God that cranked up his personal zeal and charisma by one or two orders of magnitude, such that he claimed not to have to study up for his sermons any more, but had them delivered directly by the Holy Spirit. When a person makes that kind of public claim, he is asking for it when his personal life discloses significant inconsistencies with his profession!
Sorry, I come from a church with 17,000+ adults in membership (www.northpoint.org). So, I'd say Faith is "medium sized".
quote:Originally posted by T S C:
Sorry, I come from a church with 17,000+ adults in membership (www.northpoint.org). So, I'd say Faith is "medium sized".
Well, I suppose it all depends on one's frame of reference, but my argument still stands. Irrespective of the size of Faith Church, that church has willingly and often received loads of favorable local publicity. Now that they have experienced some kind of apparent scandal, they should not expect to avoid some measure of public attention and curiosity concerning that unfortunate mess, whatever it was. I still have to express strong reservations about how a "pastor" supposedly so tightly wired to the Holy Spirit, could have erred so substantially as to require relinquishment of his position.
Quote by BeternU:
“he disclosed some purportedly special vision or experience from God that cranked up his personal zeal and charisma by one or two orders of magnitude, such that he claimed not to have to study up for his sermons any more, but had them delivered directly by the Holy Spirit. When a person makes that kind of public claim, he is asking for it when his personal life discloses significant inconsistencies with his profession!”
There will be an Oscar for you at the next presentation for that observation.
Be sure and dress nice.
“he disclosed some purportedly special vision or experience from God that cranked up his personal zeal and charisma by one or two orders of magnitude, such that he claimed not to have to study up for his sermons any more, but had them delivered directly by the Holy Spirit. When a person makes that kind of public claim, he is asking for it when his personal life discloses significant inconsistencies with his profession!”
There will be an Oscar for you at the next presentation for that observation.
Be sure and dress nice.
quote:Originally posted by T S C:I agree with you, sort of. If this were Andy Stanley, Rick Warren, John Vaughan, etc then it would be public knowledge. But this was a guy at a medium sized church in Florence, AL. He had his issue, he handled it with his church, end of story. And, the big beef that many have with this person "asking an innocent question" is that first, the question has been asked - repeatedly. The person says they are concerned for Pastor Eddy. Fine, call Pastor Eddy or the church and express your concern. Do not go on a public forum where any dirty laundry that might be aired can come out for God and everyone to see, talk about, pick apart, and comment upon. That is just tacky. Like Dixie said, call a spade a spade. If the posted wanted to know the dirt, she should have come out and said it. Not played the "oh I am so righteous and have honorable intentions!" role once she was called out for stirring the pot.quote:Originally posted by beternU:
"private matter?" Not so, Oh piscine one. Those who are installed as "pastors" of big honkin' churches in this or other towns get all kinds of attention in the media and many of them cultivate that attention when it reflects favorably upon them and their flocks. There is no reason, then, that when these self-promoted exemplars of truth and goodness and "fall from grace," their departures from the narrow path should be immunized from general knowledge.
BetternU,
Even though TSC said eerily exactly what I would have stated, I'm gonna add a little anyway:
Now that you have forced me to consider it, I'm not sure that "immoral" is the best adjective to use. But what these "new kids" keep doing is "exceedingly wrong."
Whatever the case, it is horrible to watch these (seemingly) agenda-driven people drag this otherwise-decent man's name through mud when he has evidently been man enough to admit, apologize and even resign for his indiscretions between consenting adults.
Any idiot can commit sins. It takes a real man (or woman) to fess up and take responsibility for those sins. This Eddie person evidently did just that.
I'm going to defend a few people here and hope to shed a little light.
TSC is correct in saying Faith is a medium sized church and beternU is correct in saying it is a large church. It all depends on the area of the church and the size of the others in the area. For the Florence area Faith is a large church but on the full scale of churches it is a medium sized church.
Lynn said up front that they had been out of town for a while and had no knowledge of the situation other than the fact that he resigned. There was no insuation made that they were just digging for gossip. As for Lynn looking back at past post, they have only been a member for one day. I have been on these forums for a while now and I haven't read any of the Pastor Eddy topics and to be honest I didn't know he had resigned or why myself. Maybe I don't keep up with things like that enough but it is possible that sombody just doesn't know anything other than he resigned.
People resign from positions everyday and for many reasons. Maybe Lynn thought it was personal problems or health problems and he was just not happy there any longer. It could have been many reasons.
Welcome to the forums Lynn and I hope you hang around and not let this topic run you off.
TSC is correct in saying Faith is a medium sized church and beternU is correct in saying it is a large church. It all depends on the area of the church and the size of the others in the area. For the Florence area Faith is a large church but on the full scale of churches it is a medium sized church.
Lynn said up front that they had been out of town for a while and had no knowledge of the situation other than the fact that he resigned. There was no insuation made that they were just digging for gossip. As for Lynn looking back at past post, they have only been a member for one day. I have been on these forums for a while now and I haven't read any of the Pastor Eddy topics and to be honest I didn't know he had resigned or why myself. Maybe I don't keep up with things like that enough but it is possible that sombody just doesn't know anything other than he resigned.
People resign from positions everyday and for many reasons. Maybe Lynn thought it was personal problems or health problems and he was just not happy there any longer. It could have been many reasons.
Welcome to the forums Lynn and I hope you hang around and not let this topic run you off.
beternU, it's not a matter of Faith wanting to hush something up. As far as I know, none of us go to church there.
It's just plain rude to discuss something we have absolutely no knowledge of, just heresay and guesses - that's called gossip. It's a bit hard to claim the high road while engaging in something clearly frowned on in the Bible, you know?
JMHO
It's just plain rude to discuss something we have absolutely no knowledge of, just heresay and guesses - that's called gossip. It's a bit hard to claim the high road while engaging in something clearly frowned on in the Bible, you know?
JMHO
quote:Originally posted by GoFish:
Any idiot can commit sins. It takes a real man (or woman) to fess up and take responsibility for those sins.
AMEN
BTW, my last post is not directed at Lynn. If she says she meant no harm, fine. It is in reference to the numerous threads prior to this one discussing this, all of which were pointless and severely lacking in any factual info.
quote:Originally posted by makingthedaygoby:
you sho act like you own these forums. As i understand it, these are public forums where people can say their opinions.
Which is what we do, give our opinions!! As you just did.
I was hoping the talk was just that, with no truth to it, made out of jealosy and nothing more. 
Hey, does anybody here know what happened over at Faith Church?
I ain't gonna lie, I'm curious now. Someone PM me!