That's exactly the case Stem Cell. When items like guns are stolen they are entered into NCIC. Once a month, most agencies (and maybe all) do validations. Where they call to make sure items haven't been found or recovered because it would just make for a huge mess and a problem for the owner if they were caught with their own stolen items. Then it would be a huge hassle to everyone involved.
I am not sure about this, but while validations are done by agencies, they may even be required by the criminal justice system your state falls under.
quote:I'm sure some people recover their stolen items and fail to notify law enforcement like they are instructed to do by the officer when items are stolen.
Happens all the time. Really gets hairy when they recover a car that they reported stolen. Say they reported it stolen, but it turns out that their kid, or cousin, or neighbor, took it without asking, and returned it. They don't think to call the cops and let them know, and when the car gets stopped, the cops do a felony take down...complete with guns drawn and people ordered to lay on the ground.
Or, (another biggie) runaway teenagers. Get reported as runaways, put into NCIC by the cops, then they sneak back home the next morning. Family doesn't bother to let the cops know, and kid gets snatched up by the cops and taken to the station because the parents are not available to contact at the numbers on the report. Four hours later for the two cops, the parents get contacted, and admit they failed to let the cops know, and Junior can be released.
Sorry you feel you didn't receive the service you were entitled. Sometimes officers are having a bad day too, and don't appear to be polite. But, I find it hard to believe the officer didn't examine the damage and debris at the scene. Or, ask any questions. How do you know the officer didn't patrol the area looking for any other damaged vehicles? Did you follow him? 10 minutes after he left you found out the model and color of the car, did you call the police department and let the officer know what you had discovered. By the way, this is now a civil matter. If you feel you have enough information on the vehicle that hit yours, you can take them to court, or just pay your deductible, which ever is more convenient for you.
What? Me worry?
Why should any of this bother me? I'm just a hard working, bonified taxpayer who owns property and drives on public roads most everyday. I don't depend on police departments to do anything but ignore my complaints, eat yesterday's donuts and unnecessarily burn up gas driving around going no where, doing absolutly nothing but break the speed limits to get there while I'm on my way to the courthouse to pay for it all.
Why should any of this bother me? I'm just a hard working, bonified taxpayer who owns property and drives on public roads most everyday. I don't depend on police departments to do anything but ignore my complaints, eat yesterday's donuts and unnecessarily burn up gas driving around going no where, doing absolutly nothing but break the speed limits to get there while I'm on my way to the courthouse to pay for it all.
quote:Originally posted by wright35633:
To help you. If no one saw the accident you cannot say who drove the vehicle. It is impossible to prosecute a vehicle.
Unfortunately, this is very true. One night my car was legally parked on the street in Bham and was hit by a hit and run driver. A neighbor called it in and I noticed the police out there writing up the report when I went in the bathroom to brush my teeth. I went out side, talked with the officer and off she went. Next day I found big grey paint chips all over my car so I called the police to see if that would be any help in the investigation. (Yes, I naively thought there would be an investigation about a hit and run in bham. LOL! They really do have bigger fish to fry.) They told me even IF I found the exact car that hit me, I would never be able to prove who was driving. They were very nice but I was still SOL.
Not to be rude but who are these bigger fish?You can't really compare florence and bham when talking about crime.Birminghams crime rate towers over florence,not to mention the population factor.And i do believe florence has plenty of police per capita to do a sufficient job.More than likely some of the people on here that are saying"file a complaint" work for the department themselves.They would rather you do it quietly and not in a public forum because they know nothing will ever be resolved with a complaint.Always remember you will almost never get the last word in when it comes to the police or government they have you right where they want you.unless you have millons of dollars and good friends that work in these areas.quote:Originally posted by big_black_cat:quote:Originally posted by wright35633:
To help you. If no one saw the accident you cannot say who drove the vehicle. It is impossible to prosecute a vehicle.
Unfortunately, this is very true. One night my car was legally parked on the street in Bham and was hit by a hit and run driver. A neighbor called it in and I noticed the police out there writing up the report when I went in the bathroom to brush my teeth. I went out side, talked with the officer and off she went. Next day I found big grey paint chips all over my car so I called the police to see if that would be any help in the investigation. (Yes, I naively thought there would be an investigation about a hit and run in bham. LOL! They really do have bigger fish to fry.) They told me even IF I found the exact car that hit me, I would never be able to prove who was driving. They were very nice but I was still SOL.
quote:Originally posted by jay291975:
Not to be rude but who are these bigger fish?You can't really compare florence and bham when talking about crime.Birminghams crime rate towers over florence,not to mention the population factor.And i do believe florence has plenty of police per capita to do a sufficient job.More than likely some of the people on here that are saying"file a complaint" work for the department themselves.They would rather you do it quietly and not in a public forum because they know nothing will ever be resolved with a complaint.Always remember you will almost never get the last word in when it comes to the police or government they have you right where they want you.unless you have millons of dollars and good friends that work in these areas.
And just how do you think the issue will be resolved on a public forum?
There are methods in place to insure that your complaint is investigated and resolved. Case in point; Florence PD now has two new Assistant Chiefs of Police due to complaints filed against the previous ones, as well as several ex-officers that were fired/prosecuted for their actions.
Complain all you wish on an anonymous forum. Just understand that your complaint will NEVER get resolved if that is as far as you go.
Like i said some people on here replying probably are affilliated with the police in some way.I was not suggesting a resolution and would not know where to start .Maybe since you are so well versed in the law you can suggest the best way possible to resolve the situation.And i dont mean just your generic "file a complaint" type deal.Tell us how you can really get things done.You seem to be very defensive about people complaining on a "anonymous forum"about the police.Even if a complaint is filed where or what does that get a person and how would that person even know if it is getting investigated.Especially with something small like a hit and run,which really is not small at all,what if next time this happens some innocent bystander or worse the person runs over a child ..Would you take it so lightly if it happened to you or your family?quote:Originally posted by jack mehoff:Not to be rude but who are these bigger fish?You can't really compare florence and bham when talking about crime.Birminghams crime rate towers over florence,not to mention the population factor.And i do believe florence has plenty of police per capita to do a sufficient job.More than likely some of the people on here that are saying"file a complaint" work for the department themselves.They would rather you do it quietly and not in a public forum because they know nothing will ever be resolved with a complaint.Always remember you will almost never get the last word in when it comes to the police or government they have you right where they want you.unless you have millons of dollars and good friends that work in these areas.quote:Originally posted by big_black_cat:quote:Originally posted by wright35633:
To help you. If no one saw the accident you cannot say who drove the vehicle. It is impossible to prosecute a vehicle.
Unfortunately, this is very true. One night my car was legally parked on the street in Bham and was hit by a hit and run driver. A neighbor called it in and I noticed the police out there writing up the report when I went in the bathroom to brush my teeth. I went out side, talked with the officer and off she went. Next day I found big grey paint chips all over my car so I called the police to see if that would be any help in the investigation. (Yes, I naively thought there would be an investigation about a hit and run in bham. LOL! They really do have bigger fish to fry.) They told me even IF I found the exact car that hit me, I would never be able to prove who was driving. They were very nice but I was still SOL.
I am not a "cop" - but I know how to handle a situation.
When I had a problem (that I described earlier on this thread), I called the number in the phone book for the FPD during regular business hours. I asked to speak to the person in charge of the officers - a supervisor. I told them my problem and I got the results.
It was pretty uncomplicated.
Believe me - I don't have any "personal" contacts - I wish to heck I did!
When I had a problem (that I described earlier on this thread), I called the number in the phone book for the FPD during regular business hours. I asked to speak to the person in charge of the officers - a supervisor. I told them my problem and I got the results.
It was pretty uncomplicated.
Believe me - I don't have any "personal" contacts - I wish to heck I did!
quote:Originally posted by jack mehoff:Not to be rude but who are these bigger fish?You can't really compare florence and bham when talking about crime.Birminghams crime rate towers over florence,not to mention the population factor.And i do believe florence has plenty of police per capita to do a sufficient job.More than likely some of the people on here that are saying"file a complaint" work for the department themselves.They would rather you do it quietly and not in a public forum because they know nothing will ever be resolved with a complaint.Always remember you will almost never get the last word in when it comes to the police or government they have you right where they want you.unless you have millons of dollars and good friends that work in these areas.quote:Originally posted by big_black_cat:quote:Originally posted by wright35633:
To help you. If no one saw the accident you cannot say who drove the vehicle. It is impossible to prosecute a vehicle.
Unfortunately, this is very true. One night my car was legally parked on the street in Bham and was hit by a hit and run driver. A neighbor called it in and I noticed the police out there writing up the report when I went in the bathroom to brush my teeth. I went out side, talked with the officer and off she went. Next day I found big grey paint chips all over my car so I called the police to see if that would be any help in the investigation. (Yes, I naively thought there would be an investigation about a hit and run in bham. LOL! They really do have bigger fish to fry.) They told me even IF I found the exact car that hit me, I would never be able to prove who was driving. They were very nice but I was still SOL.
Well, good job at missing the point.
The point was, if you didn't SEE the person who hit your car, you can't prove they did it even if you find the car later. That goes for Bham or Florence. As for crime in Bham, of course it's higher here than in Florence. But that doesn't mean that Florence officers are going to send paint chips to a lab to determine the make and model of a car from a hit and run. I doubt they have the budget for that - but that would need to happen to charge someone with a crime.
And really, you think Florence cops don't have bigger fish to fry than hit and run drivers? I grew up in Florence. It's not exactly a crime free place - there are still murders, robberies, drug crimes, etc. All those are "bigger fish" to me.
quote:Like i said some people on here replying probably are affilliated with the police in some way.I was not suggesting a resolution and would not know where to start .Maybe since you are so well versed in the law you can suggest the best way possible to resolve the situation.And i dont mean just your generic "file a complaint" type deal.Tell us how you can really get things done.You seem to be very defensive about people complaining on a "anonymous forum"about the police.Even if a complaint is filed where or what does that get a person and how would that person even know if it is getting investigated.Especially with something small like a hit and run,which really is not small at all,what if next time this happens some innocent bystander or worse the person runs over a child ..Would you take it so lightly if it happened to you or your family?
I'm not affiliated with the police...I am a cop. A street cop, with bunches of experience.
I've been one long enough to know that citizen complaints get results. Chiefs of Police, Mayors and Council Persons know that they need to be receptive to citizen complaints, and that they need to resolve the issues. Most citizen complaints are regarding some violation on the part of the officer in question...whether a civil rights violation, or a violation of law. Some are violations of departmental policy, and some are like the one described here...an issue with the quality of service received.
Regardless of the type of complaint, the issue should be brought up to the supervisor of the officer. From there, it can travel up the chain of command to the Chief of Police, then the Mayor and then the City Council.
If the complaint is a violation of state law or civil rights, it can and should be taken to a State Investigative Agency (Alabama Bureau of Investigation or the Attorney General's Office) or the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
You say a hit and run is small, then say it is not...which is it?
What if???? What if an innocent bystander is there, you ask...Well, what if a nuclear bomb is there? You can "what if" it to death. The likelihood of an innocent bystander being in the way at 2:00 am is slim to none.
And by the way...I've been the victim of hit and run personally. Twice. It ain't that big a deal. Cars can be fixed. Insurance pays for it. That is why you should carry insurance if you're gonna park on the street.
Nice user name...jack mehoff. Not exactly appropriate for this forum. I took the opportunity to mention it to the moderator. Hope you don't mind.
yeah, jack, really your name isn't very nice! 
No i dont mind ,i could care less.i thought most people on here might be adults and maybe have a sense of humor but obviously not.quote:Originally posted by Sassy Kims:quote:Like i said some people on here replying probably are affilliated with the police in some way.I was not suggesting a resolution and would not know where to start .Maybe since you are so well versed in the law you can suggest the best way possible to resolve the situation.And i dont mean just your generic "file a complaint" type deal.Tell us how you can really get things done.You seem to be very defensive about people complaining on a "anonymous forum"about the police.Even if a complaint is filed where or what does that get a person and how would that person even know if it is getting investigated.Especially with something small like a hit and run,which really is not small at all,what if next time this happens some innocent bystander or worse the person runs over a child ..Would you take it so lightly if it happened to you or your family?
I'm not affiliated with the police...I am a cop. A street cop, with bunches of experience.
I've been one long enough to know that citizen complaints get results. Chiefs of Police, Mayors and Council Persons know that they need to be receptive to citizen complaints, and that they need to resolve the issues. Most citizen complaints are regarding some violation on the part of the officer in question...whether a civil rights violation, or a violation of law. Some are violations of departmental policy, and some are like the one described here...an issue with the quality of service received.
Regardless of the type of complaint, the issue should be brought up to the supervisor of the officer. From there, it can travel up the chain of command to the Chief of Police, then the Mayor and then the City Council.
If the complaint is a violation of state law or civil rights, it can and should be taken to a State Investigative Agency (Alabama Bureau of Investigation or the Attorney General's Office) or the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
You say a hit and run is small, then say it is not...which is it?
What if???? What if an innocent bystander is there, you ask...Well, what if a nuclear bomb is there? You can "what if" it to death. The likelihood of an innocent bystander being in the way at 2:00 am is slim to none.
And by the way...I've been the victim of hit and run personally. Twice. It ain't that big a deal. Cars can be fixed. Insurance pays for it. That is why you should carry insurance if you're gonna park on the street.
Nice user name...jack mehoff. Not exactly appropriate for this forum. I took the opportunity to mention it to the moderator. Hope you don't mind.
quote:Originally posted by jjuliesmiles:quote:Originally posted by hott moma:
is jetgirl back
where?
jsky2k1 sounds a lot like jetgirl or boy which ever you wanna call them. Jet always gave the police on here problems just like the jsky person. Funny how one name was jetboy and the other is jsky huh?!?
quote:No i dont mind ,i could care less.i thought most people on here might be adults and maybe have a sense of humor but obviously not.
In case you haven't noticed, there are not any adult content only warnings on this forum. I'm sure that not only juveniles, but adults that don't care for viewing your "sense of humor" can see it.
Being disgusting is not humorous.
quote:Originally posted by jsky2k1:
This is funny!!!A troll ,oh i'm sorry im not a veteran times daily forum poster like yourself flotown.did i disrespect you?I grew up in a firefighter /police family .i will repeat myself once more, then i give up on you times daily forum nazis.the fact is i was unhappy with the service i was provided and spoke out about it.maybe you consider that bashing ,i dont really care .It was my opinion.Last time i checked i was entitled to that opinion.and you also have the right to whine about me whining.Maybe if i was happy with the service i was provided i would have posted that ,i doubt it ,but maybe.If you think im wrong ,then fine post something positive about the florence police department or give us one of your positive expieriences.
Well good for you. What do you wnt? A cookie? My daddy was in law enforcement starting in Vietnam, your not special. You didnt disrespect me, you disrespected the good people on here with some intelligence, and not to mention, the men and women who risk their lives everyday to protect you!
quote:Originally posted by RoadHawg:
After reading all 3 ridiculous pages of this a thought popped in my head. (Before you ask...it was the 3rd one today)
But...are there internet priveleges in work release now?
Just wondering.
Oh! You are good!! You just made my night & I agree with Geddon! (Geddon, we gotta remember that line for future refrences!!)
quote:Originally posted by big_black_cat:
Well, good job at missing the point.
ha ha, cat! you saved me the trouble of saying it.
quote:Originally posted by stem_cell_baby:
(Dixie Chik's post): I did have a funny/sad thing happen though -- a few months after my break-in a lady from teh PD calls and says "you had a .38 Taurus Revolver stolen?" I said, "yes, ma'am." SHe said, "Well we were just wondering if you had recovered it?" Um, duh, the officer told me it would show up on a traffic stop or a shooting or something else...but I was supposed to have just "found it" miraculously...
Did you ever ask the lady why she was calling or did she tell you why?? I'm sure you were not randomly selected. And, I'm sure some people recover their stolen items and fail to notify law enforcement like they are instructed to do by the officer when items are stolen. Sounds more to me like she was doing her job and just following up with you about your unfortunate incident. Give her and her department a little credit.
That's the reason I said it was a "funny/sad" thing to happen -- it was sadly entertaining...
I didn't talk to her but I did talk to a friend of mine later Stem and he said that was why she called, but it was just the surprise of a phone call from the PD thinking you might have a resolution to your stolen property and all the feelings that makes you feel when you get broken into -- to just be asked if you'd found your stuff. It was just a let down...
quote:Originally posted by jsky2k1:
i started a thread to get feedback,thats all... not trying 2 cause a revolution.
quote:Originally posted by jsky2k1:
I never asked for anyones feedback ,it's just a given i would get it posting on a forum.Did you even read the original post? ,or anyone else that says i should file a complaint.If you did you saw where i said more people should file more complaints... because that is what i did.And yes i dont have the best neighbors ,is that my fault?If you think i am an idiot that is your opinion also..i'm sure alot of people think you are too..i will admit i was a little frustrated with the situation and might have used some words that were not 2 eveyones liking but i will not apologize for it..this is a forum where people discuss things and state opinions.
So are you asking for feedback or not because you have contradicted yourself in these 2 post…
Obviously it is you that didn't read my post where I agreed with Sassy that you should file a complaint. I’m still looking but I’m not finding where you said you have actually filed a complaint with the FPD...so have you?
No, I didn’t say that it was your fault you have bad neighbors – but you used your neighbors seeing it happen as justification as to why the cop should go arrest the bad guys – and others have explained to you why they can’t – had they called the police at 2am – they would have helped you be able to get answers for this terrible situation.
quote:Originally posted by jsky2k1:
If you think im wrong ,then fine post something positive about the florence police department or give us one of your positive expieriences.
I did post positive things about the FPD but you didn’t want to read them – you just wanted to act like I’m the bad guy…sorry – you are so frustrated with this and instead of having coherent conversations about it and maybe understanding why there is nothing that can be done at this point you wanted to argue with anyone and everyone – and unfortunately that has made you look like a troll -- …just remember that what goes around comes around and know that the person that hit your car will get what is coming to them one of these days…you just may not get the pleasure of witnessing it…
quote:Originally posted by jsky2k1:
Are you really telling me what i did and how i feel?wow....are you a jedi? first of all the title was to get attention the more attention the more people reply..i also have friends that work for the floerence police department.i bet you they would be the first ones to tell you that alot of the force is lazy and worthless.Its funny when other people try to tell you how you feel and what you mean..
I would have to disagree with you, it's a brotherhood,they don't turn on their own, by talking $h!t behind the others back, they stick together unless it is breaking some kind of law, then that is a different story.
Every person has their own personality some good and some makes you wonder how they got the job working with the public LOL but that is just them it don't effect how they preform their jobs.
Just because you do not think the officer did the job to your liking, don't mean, you have the right to come on this forum and talk bad about the Florence Police Department. They are here to protect and save your @$$, not kiss it.
quote:Originally posted by jack mehoff:No i dont mind ,i could care less.i thought most people on here might be adults and maybe have a sense of humor but obviously not.quote:Originally posted by Sassy Kims:quote:Like i said some people on here replying probably are affilliated with the police in some way.I was not suggesting a resolution and would not know where to start .Maybe since you are so well versed in the law you can suggest the best way possible to resolve the situation.And i dont mean just your generic "file a complaint" type deal.Tell us how you can really get things done.You seem to be very defensive about people complaining on a "anonymous forum"about the police.Even if a complaint is filed where or what does that get a person and how would that person even know if it is getting investigated.Especially with something small like a hit and run,which really is not small at all,what if next time this happens some innocent bystander or worse the person runs over a child ..Would you take it so lightly if it happened to you or your family?
I'm not affiliated with the police...I am a cop. A street cop, with bunches of experience.
I've been one long enough to know that citizen complaints get results. Chiefs of Police, Mayors and Council Persons know that they need to be receptive to citizen complaints, and that they need to resolve the issues. Most citizen complaints are regarding some violation on the part of the officer in question...whether a civil rights violation, or a violation of law. Some are violations of departmental policy, and some are like the one described here...an issue with the quality of service received.
Regardless of the type of complaint, the issue should be brought up to the supervisor of the officer. From there, it can travel up the chain of command to the Chief of Police, then the Mayor and then the City Council.
If the complaint is a violation of state law or civil rights, it can and should be taken to a State Investigative Agency (Alabama Bureau of Investigation or the Attorney General's Office) or the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
You say a hit and run is small, then say it is not...which is it?
What if???? What if an innocent bystander is there, you ask...Well, what if a nuclear bomb is there? You can "what if" it to death. The likelihood of an innocent bystander being in the way at 2:00 am is slim to none.
And by the way...I've been the victim of hit and run personally. Twice. It ain't that big a deal. Cars can be fixed. Insurance pays for it. That is why you should carry insurance if you're gonna park on the street.
Nice user name...jack mehoff. Not exactly appropriate for this forum. I took the opportunity to mention it to the moderator. Hope you don't mind.
Aww is it because we think your post was petty and shared our opinion on your post, well if you don't like the answers you get from us feel free not to post on this forum, because believe me, we all have different opinions thats what makes this forum.quote:Originally posted by Harry P. Knuckles:
"can't we all just get along"
Rodney King
Obviously not...
In my opinion:
Folks can't understand that this is not an aurgumentive page. It's a forum where you can go to post your opinionated personal comments on certain subjects for further discussion of the matter. But in spite of it all, certain so called members attack other members in ways that make them seem wrong for posting their own personal subjected comments simply because of a difference of opinion.
While I suppose it's ok to have a difference of opinion, we should keep our personal views, opinions and other durogotory remarks directed towards the subject at hand and not towards the innocence of other members. The said comments are personal thoughts and or experiences of interested forum members. They also should only be noted as such. In the event of a violation of membership rules, which is plainly posted on the forum's home page, the membership privilege should be repremended and or withdrawn by the adminstration and the violators banned from the forum indefinately, respectively.