Seeweed I oppose them getting Obamacare for the same reason you oppose them getting medicaid my taxes "maybe not yours" went up to pay for Obamacare" I disagree that most pay payroll taxes as most in the construction field have gotten smart. They now are paying them as contract workers with no withholding just file a 1099.
Medicaid Helps Hospitals Pay For Illegal Immigrants’ Care
Kaiser Health News
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.or...-emergency-care.aspx
Excerpt:
A 2007 medical article in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that 99 percent of those who used Emergency Medicaid during a four-year period in North Carolina were thought to be illegal immigrants.
The Federation for American Immigration Reform, which seeks to limit immigration, said the funding led more women to give birth in the United States, especially since they knew that children born here would be American citizens. The group believes that tens of thousands of "anchor babies" are born each year to illegal immigrants who hope that giving birth to children recognized as citizens will help the women gain legal status themselves.
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Medicaid Helps Hospitals Pay For Illegal Immigrants’ Care
Kaiser Health News
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.or...-emergency-care.aspx
Excerpt:
A 2007 medical article in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that 99 percent of those who used Emergency Medicaid during a four-year period in North Carolina were thought to be illegal immigrants.
The Federation for American Immigration Reform, which seeks to limit immigration, said the funding led more women to give birth in the United States, especially since they knew that children born here would be American citizens. The group believes that tens of thousands of "anchor babies" are born each year to illegal immigrants who hope that giving birth to children recognized as citizens will help the women gain legal status themselves.
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And I don't like this, but we have been paying one way or the other forever whether they are illegal, of just poor.
Little different than "illegals don't get medicaid". We may have been doing it "forever", but it, and the anchor babies, needs to stop.
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Little different than "illegals don't get medicaid". We may have been doing it "forever", but it, and the anchor babies, needs to stop.
This is the truth !!
One good thing about our screwed up health insurance business that we may never have considered, it brought us a damm good show :
He lives there and doesn't know how it works? Bet he's a sucky teacher. How about co-pays and deductibles?
In the UK, the teacher would be placed on the waiting list and wasted away awaiting care. Suggestion, research cancer patient survival rates in the US vs. Europe and UK.
Isn't health care in the uk and canada in trouble?
In the UK he could have been treated for free but the flip side is he would be dead by the time he saw the oncologist.
Lets say your wife has cancer:
US v UK: The breast cancer survival stakes
An American woman's chances of developing breast cancer are slightly higher than her British counterpart - but she is far more likely to survive.
One U.S. woman in eight can expect to have the disease at some point in her life, compared with one in nine in Britain.
But five-year survival rates for all forms of the disease - including the most advanced - stand at 85 per cent in the U.S and just under
74 per cent in the UK. If the cancer is caught early - at what doctors call stage 1 - the differences in survival are even more shocking.
An American woman has a 97 per cent chance of being alive five years after diagnosis.
In Britain, this figure is only 78 per cent.
Routine breast screening in the U.S. starts at 40 rather than 50, as in Britain, and women are thoroughly checked every one to two years, rather than every three years under the NHS.
Breast cancer drugs such as Herceptin, which can extend the life of women suffering the most advanced forms of the disease, was made available in America in 1998.
The drug costs up to £30,000 for a full 38-week course.
Shockingly, it took nearly two years before the drug was approved for NHS use and specialists estimated that in that time, 5,000 British women who needed it had died.
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| Cancer Survival Rates | ||
|---|---|---|
| USA | vs. | England |
| 90.5% | Breast Cancer | 78.5% |
| 69.9% | Bowel Cancer | 51.6% |
| 66.3% | Prostate Cancer | 44.8% |
| 62.9% | All Cancers (Female) | 52.7% |
| 66.3% | All Cancers (Male) | 44.8% |
| 71.18% | OVERALL AVERAGE | 54.48%
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Thanks, Chuck I knew the results but had an appointment and no time to post. Here;'s a bit more for Europe.
http://www.firstthings.com/blo...n-europe-and-canada/
Feel free to go there for your cancer treatment, if you must.
From the above source:
Canada’s system of national health insurance is often cited as a model for the United States. But an analysis of 2001 to 2003 data by June O’Neill, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, and economist David O’Neill, found that overall cancer survival rates are higher in the United States than in Canada:
- For women, the average survival rate for all cancers is 61 percent in the United States, compared to 58 percent in Canada.
- For men, the average survival rate for all cancers is 57 percent in the United States, compared to 53 percent in Canada.
- Among European countries, only Sweden has an overall survival rate for men of more than 60 percent.
- For women, only three European countries (Sweden, Belgium and Switzerland) have an overall survival rate of more than 60 percent.