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Oh my gosh, what bull. A patel that doesn't speak English? Madison police attacking a man because he is a foreigner? What? LOL, not bloody likely. You can't go anywhere, especially the convenience stores, without seeing foreign owners and workers, not to mention all the other businesses they own, and they live in all neighborhoods, but yes, mainly the affluent ones. The ones the cops cater to. Wonder how many times patel has called them to come check out a suspicious person around his neighborhood or fancy house. It was most likely grandpa's behavior, not his race, that bothered the caller. Paralyzed? Not looking like that either. Fishy story. Someone is trying to start some ********.

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Madison police last week roughed up a 57-year-old Indian citizen who was walking on the sidewalk outside his son's home, leaving the older man temporarily paralyzed and hospitalized with fused vertebrae.

"He was just walking on the sidewalk as he does all the time," said his son, Chirag Patel, this morning. "They put him to the ground."

 

http://www.al.com/news/index.s...stopped_by_madi.html

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Hateful bigotry? How so? The truth? Because they are from another country I can't tell the truth or offer an opinion without YOU attacking me and accusing me of bigotry? I know so many patels it's not even funny. I know where they live, I know their businesses, we have them as customers, I know people get along just fine with them and they are not harassed or bothered because of their race, and never in all the years past have heard of them being harassed by the police. I repeat, a patel that doesn't speak English? Bull! A cop in Madison or any area around here that would go after a man because he's from india? Double bull. Take YOUR freaking bigotry and hateful judgements against people that speak the truth and shove it where the sun don't shine. Visiting? Is that why his son bought him a one way ticket to his "new home"? I am surprised at them for allowing someone to step in and make this about race. As I said, someone is trying to start something.

You know contendah, you are a real piece of work. You make all sorts of remarks about people, spew all sorts of bile at them, remember your "brucie" remark about gays? Yet when someone you don't like makes a remark about someone of a different race you start spouting off about bigotry. You are the biggest bigot on the forum. It makes me angry to see that someone is trying once more, to make something about race. The dividing and pitting the different races against each other by you lefties is getting out of hand. How many years have the patels been in this area? It seemed to me at one time they owned most of Florence. All you lefties do is flap your lips about bigotry and racism where there is none. It's OK to say someone is wrong when they are, and to call BS or say something is fishy about a person's story, no matter the race of that person.

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The man DOES NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, according to the article.  None of your blithering and smokescreening does anything whatsoever to demonstrate otherwise.

 

You blithely submit this nonsense:

 

"I repeat, a patel that doesn't speak English? Bull!"

 

What a crock, Best. Are we to believe that every person in the entire U.S., or indeed the world, with that surname is capable of speaking English? Your silly, shallow blanket characterization is absurd on its face. The man has spent all but a few weeks of his life in India, for pity's sake!

 

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Originally Posted by Contendah:

Best--

 

The man DOES NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, according to the article.  None of your blithering and smokescreening does anything whatsoever to demonstrate otherwise.

 

You blithely submit this nonsense:

 

"I repeat, a patel that doesn't speak English? Bull!"

 

What a crock, Best. Are we to believe that every person in the entire U.S., or indeed the world, with that surname is capable of speaking English? Your silly, shallow blanket characterization is absurd on its face. The man has spent all but a few weeks of his life in India, for pity's sake!

 

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Blah blah blah blah blah. Are we to believe that YOU know everything, when it's been shown you know very little? I still say the man speaks English. Google doctor Patel, Madison/Huntsville/North Alabama, one of them is one of my doctors, then try to run that mess by us about the cops attacking grandpa in an affluent area, just where you'd expect to find an Indian, because of his race.

 

How do you know where the man has spent his life? I am NOT attacking the man. I am calling bull on the cops attacking him because of his race. That is why I said someone is trying to start something and it is all FISHY. More of that divide the races thing. And yes, I am shocked that a patel is going along with it. The son himself said he was 'shocked'. Yes, I guess so. As for the man speaking English, of course he does. Either you are very naive or you are playing dumb. One funny thing, so many folks we deal with in the US speak English just fine UNTIL there is a problem with their services or a product, they are stopped for a traffic violation or arrested, or have to go to court, then all of a sudden they don't speak English. One of our customers had to sue a woman for money she owed him. He said she showed up with a court appointed interpreter for a small claims suit, claiming she didn't speak English. He said she not only spoke English but had a very mild accent. One more scam of hundreds that so many pull.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Hey genius, what am I smoke screening? You shouldn't use words or phrases when you don't know the meaning.

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Hey,you blithering, transparently dodging doofus!  YOU asserted with your nutterance ( "I repeat, a patel that doesn't speak English? Bull!") above that this elderly long-time resident of India somehow must be considered to speak English--on the basis of his surname. That is a fatuous ASSumption, not unlike other fatuous ASSumptions you have shown yourself so capable of barfing up.

The cops involved in this matter have been suspended from duty pending the outcome of an investigation.  I am not conducting that investigation and neither are you.  At the outcome of the investigation by the proper authorities, we should know enough about this to draw some reasonable conclusions.  I am content to await that outcome.  You can continue with your presumptuous conclusions if you wish.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Hey genius, what am I smoke screening? You shouldn't use words or phrases when you don't know the meaning.

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Hey,you blithering, transparently dodging doofus!  YOU asserted with your nutterance ( "I repeat, a patel that doesn't speak English? Bull!") above that this elderly long-time resident of India somehow must be considered to speak English--on the basis of his surname. That is a fatuous ASSumption, not unlike other fatuous ASSumptions you have shown yourself so capable of barfing up.

The cops involved in this matter have been suspended from duty pending the outcome of an investigation.  I am not conducting that investigation and neither are you.  At the outcome of the investigation by the proper authorities, we should know enough about this to draw some reasonable conclusions.  I am content to await that outcome.  You can continue with your presumptuous conclusions if you wish.

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Oh goodness, I hit a nerve! You can continue your ASSumptions that he didn't speak English. Still didn't say what I was smoke screening, and now you say I'm dodging. What am I dodging? Calm down or you will pop a blood vessel and one of the doctor patels will have to treat you.

 

Want to see a doofus? Look in the mirror. You and all the other anti-cop, in your case anti-everything in the world, race baiting bunch of idiots, and the bigger bunch of idiots that leap to the wrong conclusions the anti-American crowd wants them to jump to. Then you spout off how you will 'wait' and see. What will we see? If the cop is cleared you and your ilk will still yell they got away with it. It's fishy and stinks on ice.

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Want to see a doofus? Look in the mirror. You and all the other anti-cop, in your case anti-everything in the world, race baiting bunch of idiots, and the bigger bunch of idiots that leap to the wrong conclusions the anti-American crowd wants them to jump to. Then you spout off how you will 'wait' and see. What will we see? If the cop is cleared you and your ilk will still yell they got away with it. It's fishy and stinks on ice.

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You have magnificently continued your bigoted, one-sided, ultra wingnut program of tirades, rants and hissy fits.  Congratulations on your consistency!

You have magnificently continued your bigoted, one-sided, ultra wingnut program of tirades, rants and hissy fits.  Congratulations on your consistency!

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Where in my posts about the man have I posted ONE thing bigoted, one-sided, a tirade, a rant or a hissy fit? You're the drama queen here and the one having the fits and and doing the hysterical  ranting. I gave my opinion on the incident. Where did I run down the man for his race? Is giving the staunch opinion that he speaks English somehow an attack on his race? Is claiming I don't believe the cops would attack him for his race somehow my attacking his race? Is saying the story is fishy and stinks attacking his race? This is why the country is becoming so sick of the lefties. Their false accusations about everything someone says or does. And the sad part? You don't really care, you're bigoted, prejudiced, you discriminate against others, most likely a raging racist, but you think we should ignore it in you while you claim racism and bigotry where there isn't any.

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The real question here is whether or not you think it is possible for me to visit another country, where I do not speak the language, be there ten days, and get "beat down by the authorities", and then do you think I would be able to sue those authorities or local government for enough money to live comfortable on for the rest of my life?  Because that is what will happen here. Look for a several million dollar suit to follow. The local attorney will get his 30% plus expenses and the Patels will be moving up to a deluxe apartment in the sky.

 

Apparently the Chief of police didn't think it was BS. He suspended the officer involved and ordered a full investigation. 

 

What could warrant throwing an elderly man to the ground so hard that it broke his spine? I mean, even if he "pulled away" when they tried to pat him down, doesn't seem like it would be necessary to break his back!

 

There is video and audio of the entire incident, yet, once again, we can't see it....that's the part that I call fishy. 

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

This has been hilarious to read. Best you have become a caricature of yourself. Please do continue to tell us how ALL Patels can speak english because your Dr. is a Patel and all the others that you know are rich. The logic to that is....well...illogical to say the least. 

 

 

"caricature of yourself"!  That, Jank, is a very apt description of where her unrestrained  knee-jerk proclivities have led Besrtworking/Worstthinking. Indeed ridiculous is her notion that having the name Patel somehow means that one has learned and speaks the English language. And note the old, tired Best tactic of citing some anecdotal situation--in this case about some "customer" of hers who had a problem with a person of some unstated ethnicity who faked being conversant in English--and expecting that situation to have any meaning whatsoever to this discussion of the injured Mr. Patel.

I ain't buying that 'un. Cheap polemic tricks don't work with me. Best asks to be shown a "dodge." Well, THAT is a big-time dodge on her part.

 

Originally Posted by Chuck Farley:

A Patel is sort of like our version of the last name Smith.  The article I read said he was a poor farmer back in India.  I don't have any reason to believe he wasn't.   It looks to me like the cops screwed the pooch on this one and I'm normally the first one to defend the police.

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I don't think the cops 'screwed the pooch' at all. I think the story is fishy. A poor farmer? Could be I guess, but again, an awful lot of patels concentrated in one area for them not to be related, and they are almost all doctors, engineers, business owners. Well, who knows, maybe a poor farmer from India can afford to give their kids such things.

From the article:

 

Madison, a booming bedroom community, is home to about 46,000 residents just outside Huntsville. While largely white and affluent, with a per capita income almost double the state average, the young city is also home to many foreign-born professionals. One in 10 residents speak something other than English in the home, and 8 percent of residents were born in another country.

 

I guess that among the one in eight that don't speak English, none are Patels.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You know contendah, you are a real piece of work. You make all sorts of remarks about people, spew all sorts of bile at them, remember your "brucie" remark about gays? Yet when someone you don't like makes a remark about someone of a different race you start spouting off about bigotry. You are the biggest bigot on the forum.

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I can definitely tell you that not all Patels are related anymore than all Smiths are. I understand that Patel originally meant "innkeeper," just as Smith meant someone who created with tools. I have no inside info about this grandfather, but I was once introduced to a charming Indian man visiting a Patel family. He spoke no English, or very little, but he was unfailingly polite. 

 

If you want to hear some horror stories about families locked in immigration stagnation, you should hear some of those who have come here from India and are attempting to secure entrance for their parents or spouses. They are doing it legally, and it can take years.

 

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You know contendah, you are a real piece of work. You make all sorts of remarks about people, spew all sorts of bile at them, remember your "brucie" remark about gays? Yet when someone you don't like makes a remark about someone of a different race you start spouting off about bigotry. You are the biggest bigot on the forum.

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That non sequitur puts you with all the other purveyors of distortion who try to equate any negative commentary about homosexuality with racial bigotry. This distortion is an all too common form of political correctness that I don 't buy.t . rEAD AND LEARN:

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/6566...-to-ban-gay-marriage

 

You want a bigot?  Find someone who is knee-jerkedly certain  that every account of law enforcement officers whuppin' up on minorities is no more than biased liberal reporting.  Hint:  Look for Tinkerbelle; the answer is not far away.

Funny as you know what that the uproar is my statement that it's bull he doesn't speak English. Strain at a gnat and swallow a camel describes contendah. Is it any wonder I have to repeat. And there have been attacks against the one that called the police, accusing them of being racists and reacting because of the man's race.  I'd bet patel is only ONE of many Indians in that neighborhood, and the man being "brown" as all the attackers stated, would be nothing new or unusual to anyone else living there, even if patel were the only one in that neighborhood. Again, fishy story.

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 Madison police attacking a man because he is a foreigner? What? LOL, not bloody likely. You can't go anywhere, especially the convenience stores, without seeing foreign owners and workers, not to mention all the other businesses they own, and they live in all neighborhoods, but yes, mainly the affluent ones. The ones the cops cater to. Wonder how many times patel has called them to come check out a suspicious person around his neighborhood or fancy house. It was most likely grandpa's behavior, not his race, that bothered the caller.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Funny as you know what that the uproar is my statement that it's bull he doesn't speak English. Strain at a gnat and swallow a camel describes contendah. Is it any wonder I have to repeat. And there have been attacks against the one that called the police, accusing them of being racists and reacting because of the man's race.  I'd bet patel is only ONE of many Indians in that neighborhood, and the man being "brown" as all the attackers stated, would be nothing new or unusual to anyone else living there, even if patel were the only one in that neighborhood. Again, fishy story.

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 Madison police attacking a man because he is a foreigner? What? LOL, not bloody likely. You can't go anywhere, especially the convenience stores, without seeing foreign owners and workers, not to mention all the other businesses they own, and they live in all neighborhoods, but yes, mainly the affluent ones. The ones the cops cater to. Wonder how many times patel has called them to come check out a suspicious person around his neighborhood or fancy house. It was most likely grandpa's behavior, not his race, that bothered the caller.

 

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Three cops responded to the call.  The man was thrown to the ground so hard that his vertebrae were damaged and he is partly paralyzed and will require extensive therapy  Th officer who manhandled him is suspended.  The police refuse to release tapes, audio and video, that were taken during the incident.  ALL of the foregoing is factual; none of it is of the callous speculative nature characteristically embraced by you, Best, in your automatic defense of law enforcement offices involved in suspected excessive use of force.

 

I will await the investigative findings, but I expect that the city of Madison ultimately will be calling upon revenues collected from its numerous, well-paid residents to pay medical expenses and substantial damages for Mr. Patel.  Let us "watch this space" and see just what the outcome will be. In the meantime, I will refrain from verbal jousting with you on this issue, since it is obvious that you have nothing to offer except your usual and predictable prejudicial assumptions.  I need not raise my bow at every pygmy that shakes a bush.

 

 

 

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Wow! As I said, at one time I thought they owned most of Florence, and that there were a large number of them in certain areas, such as the Madison/Huntsville area, but I didn't know this. 

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A blog dedicated to documenting and exposing the corrupt Patel crime family and their monopoly on high-density low-income housing in San Francisco and surrounding areas. The Patels have expanded their monopoly nationwide and own 60% of all hotels in the United States

Who Are The Patels?

 
Who Are The Patels?
The Patels are an extremely large family of Indians belonging to a populous Gujarati caste. The name Patel means "landowner". Since their arrival to the United States several decades ago, they have purchased a massive amount of property, mostly in cheap motels and SRO hotels. 
 
The Patel family have siezed ownership of almost all housing options available to low-income residents of San Francisco. I have confirmed over 95 hotels and motels owned by related Patels in the city. To view a Google Map of these hotels, visit my map page.
 
Why Are They Wrong?
The Patel family control virtually all cheap housing in San Francisco. With today's economy, the numbers of homeless and low-income residents in San Francisco continue to rise, creating a higher demand for affordable housing. 
 
The Patels hold a monopoly on the cheap motels and SRO hotels in San Francisco, leaving tenants with nowhere else to go. This forces low-income residents of San Francisco to keep funding the Patel family, who in turn horde the funds and use them to finance politicians who are in favor of allowing their monopoly to flourish. 
 
They neglect their hotels and violate numerous health and safety building codes, leaving them legally uninhabitable. They support politicians such as former Mayor Willie Brown and current Mayor Gavon Newsom, as well as District Attorney Kamala Harris. These politicians assist the Patels in maintaining control of the hotel industry, and prevent tenants from taking legal action against them.
 
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One of the major things I struggled with when I began my research was finding sufficient proof to support my suspicions. I began my investigation by looking up the names associated with the address of a residential hotel owned by the Patel Family. I found several Patel names in the household, and performed a property search on each name I found. See my Research page for more details.
 
Each time, I discovered that each name was associated with multiple residential hotels. I looked up names associated with the addresses of these other hotels, and found more Patel family members. In addition, I discovered an online directory of Patel hotel owners, and I noticed that many of the names of the other hotel owners I had found were associated with hotels owned by their relatives. See http://ihooa.org/members/memzone/memberdir.php?page=p. 
 
Eventually, I uncovered connections between over 95 residential hotels in the city. While searching the web, I discovered an official county website that kept record of all monetary contributions to various political campaigns. I found over 68 different records of various Patel family members making generous donations to the city's most corrupt politicians. To view these records, use google to search the following query: "contribution amount" "patel" site:sunset.ci.sf.ca.us or just click here. 
 
Their contributions aren't limited to local politicians either. Go to Campaignmoney.com and search contributions by "Patel" or click here. They have also compromised the Department of Public Health - there is two Patels in the SRO Task Force, one of whom (Dipak Patel) is on my list of Patel family relatives and owns multiple hotels. See http://www.sfdph.org/dph/comupg/oprograms/commTaskForces/SRO/aboutUsSRO.asp.
 
The Patels are also famous for several cases of fraud, money laundering, child abuse, harboring illegal aliens, and various physical and financial injuries to tenants in their hotels. To view some of these cases, visit http://dockets.justia.com/search? and search for "Patel". You can also search Google for "Patel was arrested" by clicking here to see some of these cases as they are reported in the media.
 
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In order to bring an end to the Patel monopoly, we have to organize and take action. Here's some things that you can do to help:
 
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3.) Boycott them! - Don't stay at their hotels! Rally people together to stop funding the Patel family cartel. Help tenants who are already staying in Patel-owned buildings find alternate housing. Post reviews for their hotels online warning people that they are owned by the Patel family and the fact that they are notorious for neglecting their buildings and violating tenant rights.
  
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So--how many shabby hotels are being run by the battered Mr. Patel of Madison and his son and daughter-in-law?  How many convictions do they have for fraud, money-laundering, etc.?

 

You just trot our any kind of meaningless, unrelated junk as though it had any relevance to the situation at hand.  That is just tacky stuff, Best.  It is, in fact, the WORST of BEST!

 

Your sleazy tactic is equivalent to condemning some hard-working honest Italian-American because a lot of Italian-Americans are in the Mafia!

 

Shame!

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Originally Posted by Contendah:

So--how many shabby hotels are being run by the battered Mr. Patel of Madison and his son and daughter-in-law?  How many convictions do they have for fraud, money-laundering, etc.?

 

You just trot our any kind of meaningless, unrelated junk as though it had any relevance to the situation at hand.  That is just tacky stuff, Best.  It is, in fact, the WORST of BEST!

 

Your sleazy tactic is equivalent to condemning some hard-working honest Italian-American because a lot of Italian-Americans are in the Mafia!

 

Shame!

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What are you carrying on about??? Have you finally lost that weak grip you had on reality? Let me try one last time, because it's becoming clear that you are deranged. At one time, in Florence, it seemed every hotel was owned by a patel. Now, I googled to see how many doctors by the name of patel are in this area. Clear so far? And the article I posted came up. Now then, as I posted, I had no idea they were all over like that, buying the hotels/motels. As I said, I have used a doctor patel. I have nothing against them. I don't believe the police in Madison attacked the man because he was from India. That's my opinion until I hear something else. You are the king of tacky stuff, so why don't you just take a beat and shut the blank up.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You google the name patel and all sorts of stuff comes up. I did it just to see how many doctor patels  there were in this area. A boocoodle by the way.

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Horrors! Doctors surnamed Patel!  Surely that is a menacing thing! 

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Only to a drama queen like you.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You can hold all the dramatic, hysterical, screeching posts contendah. Work on your on homophobic, discriminatory, hates everything self before you try to go after other people. 

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Translation:  You can't produce any sensible and substantive responses to what I have posted and thus you blurt out ad hominem insults.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:

So--how many shabby hotels are being run by the battered Mr. Patel of Madison and his son and daughter-in-law?  How many convictions do they have for fraud, money-laundering, etc.?

 

You just trot our any kind of meaningless, unrelated junk as though it had any relevance to the situation at hand.  That is just tacky stuff, Best.  It is, in fact, the WORST of BEST!

 

Your sleazy tactic is equivalent to condemning some hard-working honest Italian-American because a lot of Italian-Americans are in the Mafia!

 

Shame!

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What are you carrying on about??? Have you finally lost that weak grip you had on reality? Let me try one last time, because it's becoming clear that you are deranged. At one time, in Florence, it seemed every hotel was owned by a patel. Now, I googled to see how many doctors by the name of patel are in this area. Clear so far? And the article I posted came up. Now then, as I posted, I had no idea they were all over like that, buying the hotels/motels. As I said, I have used a doctor patel. I have nothing against them. I don't believe the police in Madison attacked the man because he was from India. That's my opinion until I hear something else. You are the king of tacky stuff, so why don't you just take a beat and shut the blank up.

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Before I even think of shutting up, I want you to show me where I have posted anything whatsoever alleging or suggesting that the police "attacked" (your word choice; little Freudian slip there?) the man because he is from India or because of his ethnicity. Your comments seem to be premised on the assumption that I am claiming such.   I made no  such assertions. The issue is not his race.  The issue is whether or not the police used excessive force. The ongoing investigation will settle that question.  The video record could prove very useful to that end.

 

 

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