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Seems Anonymous has found the reason Karl Rove was so puzzled about Ohio on election night.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...ed&v=REn1BnJE3do

 

 

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Gee, what happened to the democrat's claim that voter fraud was a "non-issue"???

best, please... try to pay attention. this is a claim of "information manipulation/ corruption"... not the sense of "voter fraud" you republicans claim... this is the claim of a sophisticated corruption of the computer system. That coupled with supposed "saved information" could prove deadly to the republican party. IF it's true.

Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:

 

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That's the magical "mystery bus" that paranoid people are seeing everywhere.

 

When it isn't being used to bring out of state union members to protest in Madison, Wisconsin, the Democratic party is busing "those people who nobody has ever seen before" to load up the vote for Obama.

 

Now that the election is over, reports say the bus will be used to transport a fake Elvis around the country so it can be reported in the National Enquirer that The King has indeed risen from the dead.

 

Not really. Just kidding.

 

But these are real facts: True the Vote is one of the groups spreading these scary stories. Let's see how their slip shod methods are actually gumming up the election process instead of helping to uncover legitimate voter fraud. 

 

 

Looking, Very Closely, for Voter Fraud

 

<h6 class="credit">Teresa Sharp’s right to vote, as well as her family’s, was challenged by the Ohio Voter Integrity Project, which later apologized.</h6>

 

It might as well be Harry Potter's invisible Knight Bus, because no one can prove it exists.

 

The bus has been repeatedly cited by True the Vote, a national group focused on voter fraud. Catherine Engelbrecht, the group’s leader, told a gathering in July about buses carrying dozens of voters showing up at polling places during the recent Wisconsin recall election.

 

“Magically, all of them needed to register and vote at the same time,” Ms. Engelbrecht said. “Do you think maybe they registered falsely under false pretenses? Probably so.”

 

Weeks later, another True the Vote representative told a meeting of conservative women about a bus seen at a San Diego polling place in 2010 offloading people “who did not appear to be from this country.”

 

Officials in both San Diego and Wisconsin said they had no evidence that the buses were real. “It’s so stealthy that no one is ever able to get a picture and no one is able to get a license plate,” said Reid Magney, a spokesman for the Wisconsin agency that oversees elections. In some versions the bus is from an Indian reservation; in others it is full of voters from Chicago or Detroit. “Pick your minority group,” he said.

 

The buses are part of the election fraud gospel according to True the Vote, which is mobilizing a small army of volunteers to combat what it sees as a force out to subvert elections. Ms. Engelbrecht’s July speech in Montana was titled “Voter Fraud: The Plot to Undermine American Democracy.”

 

While there have been some recent criminal cases involving local elections, the Justice Department said in a statement that the record has not shown that significant “voter impersonation fraud — the type of fraud that many states claim their voter ID laws are aimed to prevent — actually exists.”

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Late last month, Ms. Engelbrecht was in Columbus, Ohio, for a True the Vote workshop. About 90 people signed up for the event at a suburban Holiday Inn, where they listened to speeches and discussed how to challenge questionable voters, including 51,000 “nonexistent” people in just one county that True the Vote’s Ohio volunteers say are registered to vote.

 

After the event, the volunteers, known as the Ohio Voter Integrity Project, submitted challenges of 380 registered voters in Hamilton County, which includes Cincinnati. One of the voters, Teresa Sharp, received a notice from her local Board of Elections stating that her family’s right to vote had been challenged and ordering her to attend a hearing on Sept. 10.

 

“I’ve always voted,” said Ms. Sharp, who had even been a poll worker. “Never had any problem.”

At the hearing, she said she asked, “Why are you all harassing me?” She said she believed it was because “either they don’t want Obama in there or the fact that I’m black.”

 

Amy Searcy, the director of the Hamilton County Board of Elections, said there was no discernible racial pattern in the challenges. Of the 380 challenges, about 35 voters will have to prove that their addresses are current if they appear at the polls. A vast majority of the objections were thrown out.

In the case of Ms. Sharp, a representative of the Ohio Voter Integrity Project withdrew the challenge and apologized to the family.



Read on:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09....html?pagewanted=all


 


Originally Posted by Jankinonya:
Originally Posted by Jobe:

bo could not have won without voter fraud. 59 voting stations in philly and 9 in Ohio didn't cast a single vote for Mitt. There is no way that could happen. The dims have robbed another election.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-25...ome-urban-precincts/

 

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Did you actually read the article, or just look at the headline then drew an erroneous conclusion?

 

Here is what I read in the article:

 

But, as is often the case, the reality is less salacious than the conspiracy theory - a consequence of demography, not electoral shenanigans.

 

Most big cities are heavily Democratic to begin with, and geographic patterns of racial segregation may yield an even more one-sided electoral result in certain areas than in the city as a whole.

 

Obama's dominance was mostly confined to largely African-American areas of West and North Philadelphia. In the third division of Philadelphia's 28th Ward, for example, 94 percent of the residents are black, and the 2010 census recorded only seven white residents. Voter registration lists showed only 12 registered Republicans in the division, none of whom voted for Romney or responded to the Inquirer's requests for comment.


And the outcome is not at all out of step with recent history - in 2008, 57 divisions in Philadelphia returned zero votes for then-GOP nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain. And in 2004, a more Republican-friendly election year, five Philadelphia divisions shut out former President George W. Bush entirely.

Up to 10 percent of the ballots cast at a polling station in Pennsylvania reverted to a default, which gave Barack Obama a vote no matter who the voter had selected, according to a poll watcher who was a witness to the proceedings.

The incident took place in the state where officials claimed Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney and not far from the 100 precincts in Ohio where Obama got 99 percent of the vote, a feat not even achieved by Third-World dictators, according to Market Daily News.

 

With evidence mounting that the vote tabulation did not reflect the true choices of voters, talk-radio icon Rush Limbaugh echoed the Daily News, saying Monday: “Third-world, tin-horn dictators don’t get [these percentages]. I mean, the last guy that got this percentage of the vote was Saddam Hussein, and the people that didn’t vote for him got shot. This just doesn’t happen. Even Hugo Chavez [of Venezuela] doesn’t get 100 percent or 99 percent of the vote.”

It was in Upper Macungie Township, near Allentown, Pa., where an auditor, Robert Ashcroft, was dispatched by Republicans to monitor the vote on Election Day. He said the software he observed would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.”

He said that happened in about 5 percent to 10 percent of the votes.

 

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He said the changes appeared to have been made by a software program.

Ashcroft said the format for computer programming has a default status, and in this case it appeared to be designating a vote for Obama each time it went to default.

He found it suspicious that Romney and Obama were in a virtual tie in most polls, but Obama then suddenly surged ahead by a number of points on election night.

“How the heck does that happen?” he wondered.

He said as a poll watcher, he was not allowed to communicate with officials there, so his concerns were submitted later to the state GOP.

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Officials with the Republican Committee in Harrisburg did not respond to a WND request for comment.

Ashcroft explained he had been assigned to monitor who voted, and as the evening went on and the local election computer system went up and down, he discovered that some people who had marked as having voted already also suddenly were reversed.

WND previously reported Obama’s success was nominal in states where authorities required voter identification, while he was very successful in states that did not require it.

WND also reported prior to Election Day that officials in Virginia were asked to investigate after a video caught the field director for Democratic U.S. Rep. Jim Moran’s campaign in an apparent conspiracy to commit election fraud.

What will Barack Obama do now that he has another four years in office? Find out in Aaron Klein’s “Fool Me Twice,” on sale now at WND’s Superstore

The video sting by James O’Keefe‘s Project Veritas, first reported by WND, prompted the resignation of Patrick Moran, who is also Jim Moran’s son, and a criminal investigation by the Arlington County Police Department in Northern Virginia, near Washington, D.C.

In a commentary today, WND Founder and CEO Joseph Farah said “without a doubt” the presidential election was stolen through voter fraud and manipulation.

He said the evidence so far has been anecdotal.

“I am convinced that at least 5 percent of the Democratic vote can be attributed to fraud – illegal voters, illegal campaign contributions, rigged balloting, intimidation at the polls, you name it.”

Here’s the blueprint Obama used to steal the 2012 election.

He noted WND’s “own investigation in which it demonstrated conclusively that the Obama campaign welcomed foreign contributions by intentionally leaving vulnerabilities in its web donation page that allowed even those using bogus names, disposable credit cards and foreign IP addresses to donate cash.”

In situations that appeared to be similar to that described by Ashcroft, Fox News reported that voters in Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio also said they had pushed a button on a touch-screen voting machine for Romney, but the machines recorded their vote for Obama.

“The voters in question realized the error and were able to cast ballots for their actual choice,” the report said.

Joan Stevens said it took her three tries before the machine accepted her choice to vote for Romney, according to Fox.

“This is the first time in all the years that we voted that this has ever happened to me,” she said.

Elections officials said there was nothing wrong with the machine.

At the White House website, a report in the Examiner explains, there was posted a petition seeking a recount of the race.

“In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes … but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It’s not humanly possible to get 108 percent of the vote,” the petition claims.

Just a few of the reports, excluding those that are on blog postings, were:

Fox News reported that two election judges were replaced after illegally allowing unregistered voters to cast ballots.

The Columbus Dispatch estimated that more than 20 percent of registered Ohio voters aren’t eligible.

“In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population,” the report said. And, it said, in 31 other counties, registrations are above 90 percent of the population, “a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts.”

Fox News also documented how Senate candidate Wendy Long, an attorney who was a clerk for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, recounted her voting experience. “A poll worker who was at the scanner studied my private ballot and proceeded to tell me that it was rejected because I did not ‘fill in every space.’ She then proceeded to indicate that I should mark the Democratic line all the way down.”

The Market Daily News reported on those 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, that on election day gave Romney zero votes, and Obama got 99 percent. “In more than 50 different precincts, Romney received two votes or less,” the report said. “One would think that such improbable results would get the attention of somebody out there.”

According to Philly.com, 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia produced a “head-spinning figure,” not one vote for Romney. “The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods – clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia – fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence,” the newspaper said.

On YouTube was the testimony of a computer programmer, telling the Ohio Legislature that he was able to write a program that would rig elections by flipping the total vote from the real winner to a pre-selected candidate.

The Washington Times reported that officials in Florida banned observers from seeing the absentee ballots being opened and “there was no way to know whether the absentee ballots that were produced were the same ones that were opened, or if all the ballots were produced.”

Human Events claimed Ohio voters who are native to Somalia were being given a slate card saying, “Vote Brown all the way down” – an apparent reference to the Democratic senator.

The Washington Times reported its suspicions of voter fraud in Pennsylvania, including that “in Philadelphia, the [New] Black Panthers are currently standing outside polling booths, intimidating voters just like they did in 2008.” It said, too, that 70 Republican polling inspectors were blocked from access.

Among the blog postings in support of the concerns, cited by columnist Andrea Shea King, were:

“In Florida: Obama Got Over 99% in Broward County Precincts”

“What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote”

“Good News: Obama Won County in Ohio with 108% Voter Registration”

“BREAKING: St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County”

“Fraud in PA: Obama Got Over 99% of Vote at Polls Where GOP Inspectors Were Removed; Turnout Somehow ’30%’ Above Gov’t Numbers”

“Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida, on Tuesday”

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/pol...ney-ballots-changed/

 

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

Yeah Prop. I posted the link to the article to demonstrate that not only was this NOT something New and could be easily proven to be a legitimate demographics issue.

 

I was using it to answer the accusation that Jobe made about "voter fraud". 

 

We are on the same page with this.

 

 

It might help to publish the relevant portions making your point so somebody won't come to an erroneously conclusion like I did.

 

Some would just glance at the headline and say, "Hmmm, Dems are at it again stealing elections."

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

be careful republicans... you're making a very good case for "gerrymandering" and the district lines were redrawn by ... you guessed it, republicans!

 

 

Looks like they are going to have to redraw the lines and sacrifice a few white voters in adjoining districts so the vote totals would look so one sided next time. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Up to 10 percent of the ballots cast at a polling station in Pennsylvania reverted to a default, which gave Barack Obama a vote no matter who the voter had selected, according to a poll watcher who was a witness to the proceedings.

 

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/pol...ney-ballots-changed/

 

 

 

 

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The scary thing is that this bilge is actually slightly influential, with made-up bull**** from WND making its way out the mouths of wingnut congressmen and cable TV pundits far too often.[3]

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Originally Posted by The Propagandist:
Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

Yeah Prop. I posted the link to the article to demonstrate that not only was this NOT something New and could be easily proven to be a legitimate demographics issue.

 

I was using it to answer the accusation that Jobe made about "voter fraud". 

 

We are on the same page with this.

 

 

It might help to publish the relevant portions making your point so somebody won't come to an erroneously conclusion like I did.

 

Some would just glance at the headline and say, "Hmmm, Dems are at it again stealing elections."

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I usually do. I was in a hurry then and just posted the link. Either way anyone that actually read the article should have understood that I was posting it in response to what Jobe was saying. At least I would hope so. It was pretty straight forward in explaining why many districts voted unanimously for President Obama.

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