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Cain was, at base, correct.  They should have called for the internal audits of the Feds to be made public.  We'd probably learned more quicker. 

 

Extra,

 

Some of your ideas are good.  However, you go deep on the conspiracy themes.  There are French conspiracy theorists that believe, wholeheartedly, that the US engineered all of WWII in order to sell more Coca Cola.   

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Cain was, at base, correct.  They should have called for the internal audits of the Feds to be made public.  We'd probably learned more quicker. 

 

Extra,

 

Some of your ideas are good.  However, you go deep on the conspiracy themes.  There are French conspiracy theorists that believe, wholeheartedly, that the US engineered all of WWII in order to sell more Coca Cola.   


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 Ventor, there is a difference between rationale and lunacy. You are a devoted servant of a system in which the orders come down from above, you obey without very much question. The system in which you belong gives you both security and a sense of belonging. You are afraid to examine anything that challenges the status quo in your life.

 

 Me on the other hand, I challenge everything.  It is amazing to me to discover things I have been told and conditioned to believe are rarely ever true. We live in a world built on porpaganda and lies. Somewhere behind all the lies and propaganda, there are people whose interest it is to further these lies.

 There is very good hard evidence to believe that at the very top of the money and political world, there are people working in unison to create and further a system which is designed to preserve their power. Democrats, work to stay in power, Republicans work to stay in power, Goldman Sachs works to stay in power. You know it, I know it.

  The real question is how far will they go to stay in power. On the answer to that question, you are very naive.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Extra,

 

If you believe I accept the old command authority process, you haven't read, or at least, understood many of my posts. 

 

I deal with the federal bureacracy frequently -- especially, DoD, State and Commerce.  A confluence of dunces,if ever there was one.

 

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 So then why don't you buck the system? 

 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

Working the system is part of representative government.  Also, not looking for non-existant FEMA camps that exist as only contingency contracts.

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 Sorry Ventor, that won't work. You know as well as I that since the Reagan admin there have been contingency plans for camps in america in times of declared emergency. I'm sure your not oblivious to the fact that Japanese Americans can attest to this.

 Rex 84 or Readyness Exercise 84 and operation garden plot from the 80's highlighted these plans. After the attack on 9/11, with the creation of Dept of homeland security, these plans were dusted off, updated and a plan to integrate them into Homeland Security, FEMA, and NORTHCOM.

 

 To deny what the government has admitted to is stupid on your part.

This is a good sign for those of us who support Cain. If Democrats are slamming him, then they see him as a threat. This means he's coming up as a potential candidate.

 

I think it's going to come down to Romney and Cain. As the other candidates have short bursts of popularity, they take a nose dive shortly after. The cream rises to the top, and Cain has been climbing up steadily.

 

My fear is that when it's down to Romney and Cain, then Palin might jump in. The fewer competitors to fight against, the easier it is to win. She's been unusually quiet lately. I really hope she stays out of it, but I'm not convinced she will at this point.

Interventor post:

Working the system is part of representative government.  Also, not looking for non-existant FEMA camps that exist as only contingency contracts.

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 Extra post:

 Sorry Ventor, that won't work. You know as well as I that since the Reagan admin there have been contingency plans for camps in america in times of declared emergency. I'm sure your not oblivious to the fact that Japanese Americans can attest to this.

 Rex 84 or Readyness Exercise 84 and operation garden plot from the 80's highlighted these plans. After the attack on 9/11, with the creation of Dept of homeland security, these plans were dusted off, updated and a plan to integrate them into Homeland Security, FEMA, and NORTHCOM.

 

 To deny what the government has admitted to is stupid on your part.

 

Extra,

 

Never denied such operational plans called OPLANs in the military.  There are also such plans for meeting and dealing with aliens from outer space.  And, even world domination, but not carried out.

As I stated, the FEMA camps are mainly for disaster refugees.  There are no such camps, just contingency contracts to build them. And, contracts with suppliers such as Home Depot to purchase supplies.

 

NORTHCOM is a one brigade command -- that about 5,000 soldiers.  Hardly enough to occupy north Alabama -- Delaware, perhaps! 

 

REX 84 was part of an Army War College exercise, later fleshed out.

 

I'd hate to see one of my papers I wrote for the Army Staff College treated the same.  Of course, mine were movement of nasty materials for disposal or demil of weapons.

Originally Posted by Extra-260:

My problem with Cain is that he is part of the establishment that has been making itself rich at our expense. He's tied in with the movers and shakers at Wall Street, if he gets in, youwill definitely be poorer for it.

Cain got rich by busting his butt and working hard. If making money at our expense means he sold people a lot of pizza, then there isn't anything wrong with that.

 

There are corrupt politicians on both sides. Obama is rich and in power. Just like any career politician, I'm sure he's made plenty of money in office.

 

Politicians are crooks and they've ruined this country. So why not vote for someone who is not a politician but knows how to save something that is sinking financially? Sounds like exactly what we need these days.

Originally Posted by NashBama:
Originally Posted by Extra-260:

My problem with Cain is that he is part of the establishment that has been making itself rich at our expense. He's tied in with the movers and shakers at Wall Street, if he gets in, youwill definitely be poorer for it.

Cain got rich by busting his butt and working hard. If making money at our expense means he sold people a lot of pizza, then there isn't anything wrong with that.

 

There are corrupt politicians on both sides. Obama is rich and in power. Just like any career politician, I'm sure he's made plenty of money in office.

 

Politicians are crooks and they've ruined this country. So why not vote for someone who is not a politician but knows how to save something that is sinking financially? Sounds like exactly what we need these days.

Nash,

 What you leave out in Cain"s stint as Federal Reserve board Governor. That's what I have issue with. The Federal Reserve is a phoney baloney institutuion designed to rob the people and the country.

"As I stated, the FEMA camps are mainly for disaster refugees.  There are no such camps, just contingency contracts to build them. And, contracts with suppliers such as Home Depot to purchase supplies.""

 

Thank you for finally admitting something many have been saying.

 Now, Ask those Japanese Americans who went to these "FEMA" camps in 1941. Who were sent there to "protect" them.

Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a secretive "scenario and drill" developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declares a "State of Domestic National Emergency". The plan states that events that might cause such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America.[1][2][3][4][5]

The FBI Indexes were a series of personnel databases used by the FBI before the adoption by the Bureau of computerized databases. They were based on paper index cards. They were used to track US citizens and others believed by the Bureau to be dangerous to national security. The indexes generally had different 'classes' of danger the 'subject' was thought to represent.

 

 The Gestapo in **** Germany did the exact same thing. The only difference is they ACTUALLY BUILT  THE CAMPS to go with this system of control.

 

 In america, there is a plan to build the camps.

 

 Enjoy.

http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/R210_35.PDF

 

Extra's post:

"As I stated, the FEMA camps are mainly for disaster refugees.  There are no such camps, just contingency contracts to build them. And, contracts with suppliers such as Home Depot to purchase supplies.""

 

Thank you for finally admitting something many have been saying.

 Now, Ask those Japanese Americans who went to these "FEMA" camps in 1941. Who were sent there to "protect" them.Extra,

 

Extra,

 

How soon you forget.  I posted the link to the actual contract over a year ago.  There are pallitives for old timer's disease, such as B-12.

As far as the FBI lists, that's old news.  J. Edgar Hoover had a list of the German-American Bundists that were considered true sympathizers. Within 48 hours after the declaration of war, about 5,000 were interred and no German agents were loose in the US.

 

Conversely, it was Hoover who advised against interring most Japanese-Americans.  It was the liberals such a Governor Earl Warren of California that urged FDR to proceed.  Hoover wished to inter only Japanese citizens and about 12 Japanese-American citizens. Most of that dozen were repatriated, by their own wish,  to Japan via South American ships during the war. 

Extra's post"

 

"The Gestapo in **** Germany did the exact same thing. The only difference is they ACTUALLY BUILT  THE CAMPS to go with this system of control.

 

 In america, there is a plan to build the camps.

 

 Enjoy.

http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/R210_35.PDF"

 

AR 210-35 is an operational manual, not a provisional manual.  Those prisons, on military reservations, exist and are pretty much full. They are part of the regular federal prison system and listed on their website.

 

The prison on Maxwell AFB is one such.  If you read the AR, you'll find it states only persons convicted of a crime may be imprisoned in those facilities -- no pretrial confinement, or no trial detainees.  Find something to really worry about -- not this!   

 

 

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