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I neither have prejudices toward pentagrams or Jews. However, the same people who have prejudices toward one often have prejudices toward both. Actually I saw this as a double prejudice! Imagine the pointed lips and narrowed eyes, sometimes not knowing the identity or personality of the poster can be confusing. It is ok to have a pentagram in your floor or be a Jew. Or both at the same time! LOL
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Sorry, Ladies,

But, you are very wrong. You can claim that in your attempt to justify your own belief in psychics; however, if you will check your Bible -- you will find that Jesus Christ is God, not a psychic. And, John the Baptist was a prophet, not a physic.

If you want to compare the two, in the Bible, we are told of prophets -- if they are not 100% accurate; they are to be put to death. Do you know any psychics who are 100% accurate and would accept this challenge?

And, if you will check in Leviticus, you will find that God did not think very highly of psychics, card readers, mediums, etc. These things are not right in or out of the church. A prophet was sent by God; but, John the Baptist was the last prophet; for the prophets were sent to bring God's message to the people. Now, the Bible does that and there is no need for prophets.

Prophets were of God -- psychics, mediums, card readers, etc., are of the world -- a huge difference.

Sorry, ladies, there is no way to justify New Age spiritualism; for it is from the dark spirits. Christianity and New Age are mutually exclusive.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


The pentagram is older than Christianity and not of the "New Age Spiritualism". Read the Bible Mr. Bill, some of these prophets threw stones to tell someone's future.
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Sorry, Ladies,

But, you are very wrong. You can claim that in your attempt to justify your own belief in psychics; however, if you will check your Bible -- you will find that Jesus Christ is God, not a psychic. And, John the Baptist was a prophet, not a physic.

If you want to compare the two, in the Bible, we are told of prophets -- if they are not 100% accurate; they are to be put to death. Do you know any psychics who are 100% accurate and would accept this challenge?

And, if you will check in Leviticus, you will find that God did not think very highly of psychics, card readers, mediums, etc. These things are not right in or out of the church. A prophet was sent by God; but, John the Baptist was the last prophet; for the prophets were sent to bring God's message to the people. Now, the Bible does that and there is no need for prophets.

Prophets were of God -- psychics, mediums, card readers, etc., are of the world -- a huge difference.

Sorry, ladies, there is no way to justify New Age spiritualism; for it is from the dark spirits. Christianity and New Age are mutually exclusive.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

The pentagram is older than Christianity and not of the "New Age Spiritualism". Read the Bible Mr. Bill, some of these prophets threw stones to tell someone's future.

Yes, Sweet Pea,

But, still used by many of the Satanic led New Age proponents.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

Sorry, ladies, there is no way to justify New Age spiritualism; for it is from the dark spirits. Christianity and New Age are mutually exclusive.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

The pentagram is older than Christianity and not of the "New Age Spiritualism". Read the Bible Mr. Bill, some of these prophets threw stones to tell someone's future.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Sweet Pea,

But, still used by many of the Satanic led New Age proponents.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill[/QUOTE]
Bill, I understand how you must feel but GeorgeSands is somewhat correct, not that you are an Oxymoron, but that all this was induced by the Popes to control the masses, and then kill in the name of "Jesus the Christ". How in the world can Christians proclaim an outside god and they are the only ones (for they are the dark energy that infect our society); instead that we are all part of the universal mind and laws that govern each one of us. We all share the same path. In the end, we will all be at the same place.
"We are to work to understand that we are all One, that we are all interconnected. Everyone is an individualized cell in the body of humanity."
You will see, Bill, that the churches are and will change their thinking to go with this "new age" thought. Not to depend on fear but faith, for we are truly the temple of god.
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:

By the way, earth are you an english teacher? I need a good tutor. Is "thkis" a new word?


I can't think of anyone who would not know that "thkis" is a typo, not a new word.
thanks, woodsman, my friend know about my bad typing and floppy fingers but they love me anyway! lol
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray: Sorry, ladies, there is no way to justify New Age spiritualism; for it is from the dark spirits. Christianity and New Age are mutually exclusive.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

The pentagram is older than Christianity and not of the "New Age Spiritualism". Read the Bible Mr. Bill, some of these prophets threw stones to tell someone's future.

Yes, Sweet Pea,

But, still used by many of the Satanic led New Age proponents.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, I understand how you must feel, but George Sands is somewhat correct, not that you are an Oxymoron, but that all this was induced by the Popes to control the masses, and then kill in the name of "Jesus the Christ".

How in the world can Christians proclaim an outside god and they are the only ones (for they are the dark energy that infect our society); instead that we are all part of the universal mind and laws that govern each one of us. We all share the same path. In the end, we will all be at the same place.

"We are to work to understand that we are all One, that we are all interconnected. Everyone is an individualized cell in the body of humanity."

You will see, Bill, that the churches are and will change their thinking to go with this "new age" thought. Not to depend on fear but faith, for we are truly the temple of god.

Hi Cerridwen,

Yes, many centuries ago, the Roman Catholic church did instigate the Crusades and Inquisitions. Link

First, in August 1096, the Catholic Church under Pope Urban II launched the first of its Crusades (a.k.a. Holy Wars) or military expeditions against Islam (or those of the Muslim faith). Although most Crusades failed in their aim, countless unarmed Muslims and Jews were murdered by Crusaders during the Crusades that ended in 1270.

Second, the Roman Catholic Church instituted the Inquisition to eradicate heresy or opposition to Catholicism, beginning in 1184. In May 1232, Pope Gregory IX instituted the first Inquisition with permanently appointed judges to try heretics for heresy.


However, these were not done in the name of Jesus Christ; nor would any Christian church do anything to support or justify those evil actions.

You say, ". . .instead that we are all part of the universal mind and laws that govern each one of us. We all share the same path. In the end, we will all be at the same place."

The Bible clearly teaches the fallacy of this statement. The only "universal mind and law" which governs human beings is God; and we are not part of God. God is preexisting, eternal, and immortal. We humans are created beings. We were created in our mother's womb -- but, until then, we did not exist. We are eternal; for all humans will live eternally. The only difference is which eternal destination we choose: heaven or hell. Those are our only two choices -- and, we, each, individually, must choose where we will live eternally.

We will have an immortal body also. Those who choose heaven will have an immortal body similar to that of Jesus Christ. Those who chose hell; well, I am not sure what their bodies will be like -- only that they will be eternal and immortal.

So, to say that we all share the same path and will share the same destination in the end -- is blatantly false.

That teaching is right out of the New Age Religion handbook.

You tell me, "We are to work to understand that we are all One, that we are all interconnected. Everyone is an individualized cell in the body of humanity."

Once again, right out of the New Age Religion handbook -- and totally, blatantly false.

We are not all One. He, God, is the One -- and we believers are His adopted children; brought to Him through Jesus Christ. Those who are not believers have nothing to do with Him.

Is everyone an individualized cell in the body of humanity? NO! All believers are members of the body of Jesus Christ, the church. We are also called to be the Bride of Christ (Revelation 19:7-9). Yet, this is only for those who have, by grace through faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8-9) -- become born again believers (John 3:3).

All non-believers -- and that includes atheists, secularists, New Agers -- and all others who follow a different God, a different Jesus Christ, the god of this world -- have no part in Him. We are told in Romans 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."

We are told in Romans 8:11 that the Holy Spirit dwells within those who believe; He seals us (2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30) as belonging to God. "But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." Those are the atheists, secularists, New Agers, and all other non-believers.

Finally, you say, "You will see, Bill, that the churches are and will change their thinking to go with this "new age" thought. Not to depend on fear but faith, for we are truly the temple of god."

Yes, that is the desire of Satan; that all churches will be corrupted by New Age teaching; but, I am sorry, my Friend, there is no way that God would allow that to happen. I will admit that it sometimes appears that way; with the world becoming so secular, so New Age. However, we have this assurance to fall back upon:

1 John 4:4-6, "You are from God, little children (speaking of and to the believers), and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world (i.e. atheists, secularists, New Agers, etc.), and the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."

Who is "he that is in the world"? It is none other than our old adversary -- Satan. And, even though he does not yet know it -- he has already lost the war.

Cerridwen, your body may well be the temple of god, or the gods. However, it is not the temple of God. That honor lies only with true Christian believers (1 Corinthians 3:16).

My Friend, I implore you, I plead with you, I beg you -- put aside all of your New Age religion; all your false gods and false teachings -- and get to know the only true God. You will be eternally happy you did.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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not that you are an Oxymoron

Bwaaaaa!!!!!!!

Bill, you and I both know I didn't call you an oxymoron.

Sweetpea needs to look it up in her 8th grade English book.

Hi George,

I've been called worse! But, I knew it was not you.

Hey, our atheist Friends call me this all the time -- they just leave off the first three letters.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Satanic led New Age proponents

Oxymoron, Bill. Most people who follow what you are calling New Age beliefs don't believe in Satan. Satan is a Christian construction.

Okay George Sand, sorry that I misquoted you or did I spell the word Oxymoron wrong.
I did not call Bill an oxymoron but someone did. Is that not you above as quote.
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray: Sorry, ladies, there is no way to justify New Age spiritualism; for it is from the dark spirits. Christianity and New Age are mutually exclusive.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

The pentagram is older than Christianity and not of the "New Age Spiritualism". Read the Bible Mr. Bill, some of these prophets threw stones to tell someone's future.

Yes, Sweet Pea,

But, still used by many of the Satanic led New Age proponents.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, I understand how you must feel, but George Sands is somewhat correct, not that you are an Oxymoron, but that all this was induced by the Popes to control the masses, and then kill in the name of "Jesus the Christ".

How in the world can Christians proclaim an outside god and they are the only ones (for they are the dark energy that infect our society); instead that we are all part of the universal mind and laws that govern each one of us. We all share the same path. In the end, we will all be at the same place.

"We are to work to understand that we are all One, that we are all interconnected. Everyone is an individualized cell in the body of humanity."

You will see, Bill, that the churches are and will change their thinking to go with this "new age" thought. Not to depend on fear but faith, for we are truly the temple of god.

Hi Cerridwen,

Yes, many centuries ago, the Roman Catholic church did instigate the Crusades and Inquisitions. Link

First, in August 1096, the Catholic Church under Pope Urban II launched the first of its Crusades (a.k.a. Holy Wars) or military expeditions against Islam (or those of the Muslim faith). Although most Crusades failed in their aim, countless unarmed Muslims and Jews were murdered by Crusaders during the Crusades that ended in 1270.

Second, the Roman Catholic Church instituted the Inquisition to eradicate heresy or opposition to Catholicism, beginning in 1184. In May 1232, Pope Gregory IX instituted the first Inquisition with permanently appointed judges to try heretics for heresy.


However, these were not done in the name of Jesus Christ; nor would any Christian church do anything to support or justify those evil actions.

You say, ". . .instead that we are all part of the universal mind and laws that govern each one of us. We all share the same path. In the end, we will all be at the same place."

The Bible clearly teaches the fallacy of this statement. The only "universal mind and law" which governs human beings is God; and we are not part of God. God is preexisting, eternal, and immortal. We humans are created beings. We were created in our mother's womb -- but, until then, we did not exist. We are eternal; for all humans will live eternally. The only difference is which eternal destination we choose: heaven or hell. Those are our only two choices -- and, we, each, individually, must choose where we will live eternally.

We will have an immortal body also. Those who choose heaven will have an immortal body similar to that of Jesus Christ. Those who chose hell; well, I am not sure what their bodies will be like -- only that they will be eternal and immortal.

So, to say that we all share the same path and will share the same destination in the end -- is blatantly false.

That teaching is right out of the New Age Religion handbook.

You tell me, "We are to work to understand that we are all One, that we are all interconnected. Everyone is an individualized cell in the body of humanity."

Once again, right out of the New Age Religion handbook -- and totally, blatantly false.

We are not all One. He, God, is the One -- and we believers are His adopted children; brought to Him through Jesus Christ. Those who are not believers have nothing to do with Him.

Is everyone an individualized cell in the body of humanity? NO! All believers are members of the body of Jesus Christ, the church. We are also called to be the Bride of Christ (Revelation 19:7-9). Yet, this is only for those who have, by grace through faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8-9) -- become born again believers (John 3:3).

All non-believers -- and that includes atheists, secularists, New Agers -- and all others who follow a different God, a different Jesus Christ, the god of this world -- have no part in Him. We are told in Romans 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."

We are told in Romans 8:11 that the Holy Spirit dwells within those who believe; He seals us (2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30) as belonging to God. "But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." Those are the atheists, secularists, New Agers, and all other non-believers.

Finally, you say, "You will see, Bill, that the churches are and will change their thinking to go with this "new age" thought. Not to depend on fear but faith, for we are truly the temple of god."

Yes, that is the desire of Satan; that all churches will be corrupted by New Age teaching; but, I am sorry, my Friend, there is no way that God would allow that to happen. I will admit that it sometimes appears that way; with the world becoming so secular, so New Age. However, we have this assurance to fall back upon:

1 John 4:4-6, "You are from God, little children (speaking of and to the believers), and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world (i.e. atheists, secularists, New Agers, etc.), and the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."

Who is "he that is in the world"? It is none other than our old adversary -- Satan. And, even though he does not yet know it -- he has already lost the war.

Cerridwen, your body may well be the temple of god, or the gods. However, it is not the temple of God. That honor lies only with true Christian believers (1 Corinthians 3:16).

My Friend, I implore you, I plead with you, I beg you -- put aside all of your New Age religion; all your false gods and false teachings -- and get to know the only true God. You will be eternally happy you did.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill


Bill, where can I get this New Age Handbook. I need to know what you are referring to. Can I get it on-line.
"And the prayer of faith shall heal the sick, and our Lord shall raise him up; and if he has committed sins, they shall be forgiven." James 5:15.
The prayer of faith in an unconditional belief in both the ability and the desire of Spirit to hear and answer. This works because it is spoken from a place of faith, belief, and knowingness that what is being spoken is already done in the mind of the "one" who is doing the treatment, and that it is already so in the "person's mind" they are treating. We are constructively creating the circumstances "we choose" by giving direction to the "law of mind."
The trinity is soul, mind, spirit. In Genesis 2:7, we ALL took the breath of life (oxygen) into our nostrils and became a living soul. Our mind was formed which is the "tree of knowledge of good and evil", which is our choice to make, and the "fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, faith. Galatians 5:22.
As we align our belief system with spiritual truth and make choices in our lives based on TRUTH, we experience lasting joy.
So Bill, we all have a soul, we all have a mind, and we all want good into our life.
To be an evolved soul, we judge no one, condemns no one, but realizes that all are on the road of experience, seeking the same goal which is love, joy, peace, etc. Mr. Bill, have I missed the point, or are you worshipping a false god. I beg you Bill, put away your false god and follow the real god of love, joy, peace, goodness because you are now being judged by the way you are judging others.
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Originally posted by George Sand:
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Satanic led New Age proponents

Oxymoron, Bill. Most people who follow what you are calling New Age beliefs don't believe in Satan. Satan is a Christian construction.

Okay George Sand, sorry that I misquoted you or did I spell the word Oxymoron wrong.
I did not call Bill an oxymoron but someone did. Is that not you above as quote.


I suggest you look the word up if you don't know what it means.
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Originally posted by George Sand:
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by George Sand:
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Satanic led New Age proponents

Oxymoron, Bill. Most people who follow what you are calling New Age beliefs don't believe in Satan. Satan is a Christian construction.

Okay George Sand, sorry that I misquoted you or did I spell the word Oxymoron wrong.
I did not call Bill an oxymoron but someone did. Is that not you above as quote.


I suggest you look the word up if you don't know what it means.



lol...a moronic ox....and i don't think Bill is that.
IMO, He's a decent guy with strong faith and beliefs....i can acknowledge and admire that, even though i seldom agree with him....lol.
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Originally posted by George Sand:
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Originally posted by Cerridwen:
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Originally posted by George Sand:
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Satanic led New Age proponents

Oxymoron, Bill. Most people who follow what you are calling New Age beliefs don't believe in Satan. Satan is a Christian construction.

Okay George Sand, sorry that I misquoted you or did I spell the word Oxymoron wrong.
I did not call Bill an oxymoron but someone did. Is that not you above as quote.


I suggest you look the word up if you don't know what it means.

George Sand
My dictionary is still packed in a box. Could you please tell me what it means.
Main Entry: ox·y·mo·ron
Pronunciation: \ˌäk-sē-ˈmȯr-ˌän\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ox·y·mo·rons also ox·y·mo·ra \-ˈmȯr-ə\
Etymology: Late Greek oxymōron, from neuter of oxymōros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys old man, elder
Date: 1657

: a foolish or senile elderly person : someone whose beliefs are obsolete or ridiculous : coot

— ox·y·mo·ron·ic \-mə-ˈrä-nik, -mȯ-\ adjective
— ox·y·mo·ron·i·cal·ly \-ni-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
Why do you people love antagonizing one another? In the way it was used, it means the following. From Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary...


oxymoron
One entry found.

Main Entry:
ox·y·mo·ron Listen to the pronunciation of oxymoron
Pronunciation:
\ˌäk-sē-ˈmȯr-ˌän\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural ox·y·mo·rons also ox·y·mo·ra Listen to the pronunciation of oxymora \-ˈmȯr-ə\
Etymology:
Late Greek oxymōron, from neuter of oxymōros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys sharp, keen + mōros foolish
Date:
1657

: a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness) ; broadly : something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements
— ox·y·mo·ron·ic \-mə-ˈrä-nik, -mȯ-\ adjective
— ox·y·mo·ron·i·cal·ly \-ni-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
I am just sitting here wondering why in the heck I've wasted 10 minutes reading this ridiculous thread. I kept thinking it would get better, something would finally "come to light" and make some type of sense.
But No. Nothing. Nothing more than a troubled woman with too many personalities & too much time on her hands. Dang It! Roll Eyes
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: a foolish or senile elderly person : someone whose beliefs are obsolete or ridiculous : coot

Har!

Hi Skeptik,

More Atheist Two-Step, spin and twist, spin and twist.

You create a phony quote to make it look as though you are agreeing with another person -- when the only person you ever agree with is yourself.

If you want to write an insult; at least be man enough to do it under your own phony name.

But, I guess that would be asking to much -- to ask an atheist to be honest and also straightforward. I realize that is just too much of a burden on you. So, we will just overlook your attempt at deceit.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

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