I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
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stick your head out the door ******* and seE what he has made for you.quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
quote:Originally posted by gbrk:
For an ever so brief moment attempt to put yourself in God's place. Which would be your chosen ones? Those who put their faith in you requiring nothing ahead of time or those who deny you and spit in your face daring you to prove yourself to them as if you owed them something.
God's ONLY manifestation or evidence to an unsaved person is during the moment of, the point of conviction by the Holy Spirit. At that time only can and will an unsaved person be able to experience the prescience of God, if they are fortunate enough to have that experience. A person makes a decision in a moment of time based upon that conviction and at the time of a persons conversion, accepting Christ, they are given, by God, the Holy Spirit and at that point no proof is needed anymore for the proof is within the believer.
quote:Sez Loki: just power hungry people seeking something to use to control the minds and will of others. Those gullible enough to believe are just puppets to those who know better, but use religion to support their agenda. It's the greatest scam ever invented.
Wul loki, whom do you say created all this stuff? Huh?quote:Originally posted by Loki:
Who told you "he" made that? The bible? Who wrote the bible? That would be man.
There is no evidence, never has been, just power hungry people seeking something to use to control the minds and will of others. Those gullible enough to believe are just puppets to those who know better, but use religion to support their agenda. It's the greatest scam ever invented. I will give it that.
If a god is responsible for our creation, I would be grateful, but he left no evidence that supports that claim. Their have been thousands of theologies, and many of them before Christianity. How can anyone be so shallow as to look upon one religion and claim it is the only right one? Most people believe out of fear of death and no afterlife. Many believe because it comforts them to think there is someone watching over them that has magical abilities to heal and help them through trying times in their life. Many believe because of the fear of eternal ****ation. Many believe because their parents told them so. Whatever the reason to believe, doesn't make it true. I'm not telling you that you don't have the right to believe what you want. I want to believe aliens landed in Roswell in 47, but I have no evidence to support that claim, so I cannot justifiably say that it's true.
quote:And God wants us to love Him through FAITH, not through evidence.
This is obviously untrue. Millions of Muslims died today without bending the knee at Jesus.quote:All those on earth, above and below the earth will confess that Jesus is Lord, and every knee will bend at the name of Jesus.
Fireman, yours is particularly vapid. "Matthew 5:22 "Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire."quote:The FOOL hath said "THERE IS NO GOD".
**The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
Basic philosophical Fail, and an insult to finish it with.quote:Prove me wrong, and not with your childish one liners you trolls
quote:The thing is, I can give testimony, as can any other Christian, about how God has worked in our lives.
quote:I don't understand how anyone can say a person chooses whether or not they believe something.
quote:Originally posted by gbrk:
For an ever so brief moment attempt to put yourself in God's place. Which would be your chosen ones? Those who put their faith in you requiring nothing ahead of time or those who deny you and spit in your face daring you to prove yourself to them as if you owed them something.
God's ONLY manifestation or evidence to an unsaved person is during the moment of, the point of conviction by the Holy Spirit. At that time only can and will an unsaved person be able to experience the prescience of God, if they are fortunate enough to have that experience. A person makes a decision in a moment of time based upon that conviction and at the time of a persons conversion, accepting Christ, they are given, by God, the Holy Spirit and at that point no proof is needed anymore for the proof is within the believer.
quote:Originally posted by gbrk:quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
Okay your question is also very valid for anyone that doesn't believe. You are asking for physical proof of a Spiritual entity. Let me, just as sincerely ask you.
Prove to me by evidence, not how you feel or believe, that you have dreams and what those dreams are about? Prove and demonstrate Love, fear, happiness. Prove by evidence that you have memories within your brain. You may make statements of fact about things you personally experience but that isn't proof to another person.
I, nor anyone else, can reveal God unto you sufficient enough for your doubts to be overcome. God however can do that very thing Himself and I fully believe will to those who seek Him. So off here, alone somewhere, away from anyone else pick your time and seek out God and I fully believe one day one time when you least expect it God will reveal Himself to you or anyone that ask sincerely of Him to. After that the decision of what to do with what you are presented is yours to make.
quote:Read Gbrk's posts again. They are the two most truthful things I have ever read on this forum. They are beautifully written, and they reveal the beautiful truth.
Gbrk, I thank you so much for these two posts. They say all that needs to be said. May God bless you richly for allowing Him to use your voice!
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:stick your head out the door ******* and seE what he has made for you.quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
Still waiting for something other than delusional babbling. Why do people believe in something for which there is zero evidence? Very, very strange.
quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
Still waiting for something other than delusional babbling. Why do people believe in something for which there is zero evidence? Very, very strange.
quote:Love could be a universal experience, except among the very rare emotionally damaged, and therefor needs no proof. Such as the sensation of heat. No one needs to prove to you that a stovetop is painful.
Crust, it’s evident you don’t want God in on the caper so tell us where the universe came from and be careful what you say cause I’m gonna ask for proof and you read it somewhere or I heard it somewhere or all scientist agree so and so. Not good enough I want to see the demonstrated proof.quote:Originally posted by CrustyMac:quote:Originally posted by buffalo:stick your head out the door ******* and seE what he has made for you.quote:Originally posted by JimiHendrix:
I would really like to see some evidence for the existence of God. I am not looking for what you "feel" or "believe" but some real evidence. I don't believe that there is any evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
I stuck my head out the door the other night and saw about 150 tornadoes running across 15 states. They are still adding up the damage and counting the bodies. It is easy to see the beauty around us, and ignore the horrible. You can't blame God for any of it.
quote:Originally posted by Jennifer:quote:The thing is, I can give testimony, as can any other Christian, about how God has worked in our lives.
What you say is god working in your life "happens" to others all the time. Atheists have just as many good things that happen in their lives as christians. Atheists get those "unexplainable" cures, they have problems solved, all sorts of good things. And still you have awful things that happen to good people, and wonderful things that happen to bad people.
I don't get the "turn away from him/deny him thing". Bill is big on saying a person chooses to believe or not, and loves to use his favorite "an atheist never believed to begin with" argument. He'd have you believe converts just wake up one morning and decide to believe. I don't understand how anyone can say a person chooses whether or not they believe something.