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How to stop the Gas Companies from robbing us.

HIFLYERHIFLYERHall of Famer
I have come up with a pretty painless way to stop the gas companies from continuing to gouge us. We simply take the one making the most profit "Exxon currently" and do not buy gas from them for a year!! No matter how much they lower their gas. We cannot give them a message by not buying for a day but can really hurt them by doing it for a year. After that the other companies will get the message.

Before you start I am pretty much a free market guy when there is TRUE COMPETITION. There are currently the only real players are Exxon, Shell, BP, Total SA. and you a naive if you think they are not in collusion together at our expense. The price of gas at the pump has gone up disproportionate with the rise of a barrel of oil. The oil companies are restricting refining production to drive the price up. We need to remember what the electric companies did if CA. They were caught shutting down power stations to drive the electrical price up.

The price of gas is the major player in the downward spiral of the economy. I believe it started or accelerated the housing markets downfall. People just cannot continue to absorb the gas price. It is really hurting people and our country and we need to stop them. The only silver lining is the cost is going to help us transition to another power source. When that happens we need to be sure the current gas companies do not get a strangle hold on it.
STOP BUYING FROM EXXON FOR A YEAR!!!!
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teyatesteyatesOld Faithful
HIFLYER,
I will support your effort, however I think part of the explanation needs to be clarified. In the US, there has not been a refinery built since the mid 1970's. Currently the only refineries being built in the world are the ones in China, and the refurbishment of some in Venezuala, I beleive. The demand for gas products in China has become staggering and they are one reason the price of oil has skyrocketed. While most nation's demand have been steady, the Chinese have suddenly become oil crazy and their consumption has skyrocketed. One solution here is to obviously be exploring alternative energy sources, they do exist. Second, build or expand our current refineries. third open up the oil reserves fields we have here, namely in Alaska. To open those fields would instatly lower the OPEC prices, providing that the ANWAR reserves were not sold out from under the US to China by greedy American companies. Fourth, do not support oild companies tied to Venezuala, the message will eventually get to Hugo Chavez that his socialistic views are not welcome here.
Fifth, limit your trips to town, do it all in one trip, and try to cut down on the miles you travel by 10% each week. Every little bit will help.
I hope your message gets thru to folks. The price of fuel is becoming a detriment to the economy, something we do not need right now.
Howard RoarkHoward RoarkOld Faithful
Some of our refineries have been expanded. But as we are importing gasoline, its obvious we need to build new ones and expand the capacity of the ones we have. Drilling off all our coasts, including the Gulf, California and the northeast would help, not just ANWAR. And not just expensive ethanol, but methanol should be promoted. You can make methanol from most organc waste.

The refineries send their products to stations all over, not just their own brand. Haven't seen any refineries labeled Kangeroo have you?
FloTownDownFloTownDownHall of Famer
I feel like I should warn you after the last thread I posted on & fully read! I am a "Newbie", this is only my 4th post, but I sure am happy to see some intelligent conversation on here, made by mature adults.

I totally agree with you HIGHFLYER, the major players are most definately in collusion together at our expense. Do you think if we, as a large group, banned one of the heavy hitters, it would work? I drive a Jeep Liberty, that should get great gas mileage & at a low cost, but it's just the opposite. I am open to anything for some relief at this point.
T Taciturn (Guest)
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Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
I am a "Newbie", this is only my 4th post, but I sure am happy to see some intelligent conversation on here, made by mature adults.


Definitely not a smart statement for a newbie to make. Roll Eyes You just shot yourself in the foot, we are all intelligent, mature adults!
S SeaweedPost Master
The only thing that will have an effect is for the general population to just quit buying gas- or at least so much. Wishful thinking tho, will never happen unless we were to completely rearrange our society.
Hopefully, whatever admin. after the Bush bunch will put a priority on becoming energy independent , not just give lip service.
HIFLYERHIFLYERHall of Famer
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Originally posted by T S C:
This is neither a new idea nor a good idea:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

The only way to achieve lower prices is to decrease the demand (use less) or to increase the supply (good luck).


Please explain why a bad idea. Do you really believe the gas companies need to take down a refinery for inspection or upgrades before every major holiday? Why does gas go up before the demand i.e. the high driving season. There is not a supply problem of oil, it is at the refineries where they are artificially restricting the supply.
T S CT S COld Faithful
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Originally posted by Howard Roark:
I conserve gas by not owning a car. Use the DC Metro as much as possible and Zipcar on the few occasions when I need a car. But, most people, especially in the Shoals can't as there is no public transportation.
I have to say, the Zipcar is quite awesome! I saw a special on TV and I think I want a recycled Zipcar when my kid turns 16! The little ZipKey only works during your reserved time, it can be tracked, very nice!!! Smiler
FloTownDownFloTownDownHall of Famer
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
quote:
Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
I am a "Newbie", this is only my 4th post, but I sure am happy to see some intelligent conversation on here, made by mature adults.


Definitely not a smart statement for a newbie to make. Roll Eyes You just shot yourself in the foot, we are all intelligent, mature adults!


Was I talking to you?
Who are you & where did you come from?
If my post offended you in any way, I am so sorry.
Sometimes guilt makes one jump to conclusions.
I'm sure your mature enough to have heard the old slogan
The Guilty Dog Will Always Bark First.
T S CT S COld Faithful
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Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
quote:
Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
I am a "Newbie", this is only my 4th post, but I sure am happy to see some intelligent conversation on here, made by mature adults.


Definitely not a smart statement for a newbie to make. Roll Eyes You just shot yourself in the foot, we are all intelligent, mature adults!


Was I talking to you? Yes you were, this is a FORUM so when you post, you are talking to everyone.
Who are you & where did you come from? Her name is Taciturn and she is a longstanding and valuable member of this forum. You on the other hand are one of the trolls/newbies/hateful people that we are discussing in Feedback. Maybe you should read that thread.
If my post offended you in any way, I am so sorry. Your post was not offensive, simply ignorant.
Sometimes guilt makes one jump to conclusions. Sometimes lack of intelligence, tact, or courtesy makes people like you post ugly things on internet forums.
I'm sure your mature enough to have heard the old slogan The Guilty Dog Will Always Bark First. I'm sure you are old enough to have heard the old saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
*~*Manda*~**~*Manda*~*Hall of Famer
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Originally posted by T S C:
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Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
quote:
Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
I am a "Newbie", this is only my 4th post, but I sure am happy to see some intelligent conversation on here, made by mature adults.




Definitely not a smart statement for a newbie to make. Roll Eyes You just shot yourself in the foot, we are all intelligent, mature adults!


Was I talking to you? Yes you were, this is a FORUM so when you post, you are talking to everyone.
Who are you & where did you come from? Her name is Taciturn and she is a longstanding and valuable member of this forum. You on the other hand are one of the trolls/newbies/hateful people that we are discussing in Feedback. Maybe you should read that thread.
If my post offended you in any way, I am so sorry. Your post was not offensive, simply ignorant.
Sometimes guilt makes one jump to conclusions. Sometimes lack of intelligence, tact, or courtesy makes people like you post ugly things on internet forums.
I'm sure your mature enough to have heard the old slogan The Guilty Dog Will Always Bark First. I'm sure you are old enough to have heard the old saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.


xD TSC, can I please borrow your wit for a day? I love it. Big Grin

~Amanda
HIFLYERHIFLYERHall of Famer
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Originally posted by T S C:
What you have posted is a very old rumor. It has been floating around the internet for sometime now.

If you read the article (I attached a link) it explains why the idea of boycotting one station (or several stations, or all stations) is a bad idea, a bad theory, and it simply will not work.


I read the article, which is just someones opinion, and I disagree. I have seen something similar work. When I flew corporate aviation a certain FBO chain "Airplane Gas Station" started charging exorbitant fees or minimum gas purchase just to park on their ramp. Well there was a boycott started to not use the said FBO Chain until the practice was stopped. After a short time they discontinued the practice. Remember we are not in a gas rationing situation there is plenty of gas they are just gouging us. There are almost always alternatives to a certain chain just across the street.

If the current gas situation was truly market driven in a non-monopolistic environment I would agree with the link.
4 46:1Everybody Knows My Name
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I read the article, which is just someones opinion, and I disagree. I have seen something similar work. When I flew corporate aviation a certain FBO chain "Airplane Gas Station" started charging exorbitant fees or minimum gas purchase just to park on their ramp. Well there was a boycott started to not use the said FBO Chain until the practice was stopped. After a short time they discontinued the practice. Remember we are not in a gas rationing situation there is plenty of gas they are just gouging us. There are almost always alternatives to a certain chain just across the street.

If the current gas situation was truly market driven in a non-monopolistic environment I would agree with the link.




Good reply and I agree. I also saw a similar situation change things. The trouble with people today is they are lead by the media, such as TSC reads an article and believes it. You make it too easy for the big guys.

The main reason gas prices are where they are is in a lame duck situation. Want more high prices and every advantage given to the big guys, vote republican again.
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