Beternun you say,
Once more, Skippy, you are at odds with the allegedly inspired words of the flagship book of your collection of scriptures, the Book of Mormon itself! Perhaps you should report yourself to your bishop and ask for prayers and guidance so that you do not again slip into this kind of ignorant and flagrant conflict with Joseph Smith's magnum opus!
You say, above:
"I have spoke of minor mistakes in the Bible before. These mistakes are small clerical and miss-prints that are from the many times the Bible has been passed hand to hand for translations. I do not believe that these very minor and minimal mistakes have changed the context or meaning in any way."
But, Skippy, the Book of Mormon claims that there are errors in the Bible far more serious than the "minor mistakes" or "very minor and minimal mistakes" you acknowledge. The BOM goes on to say that some of those mistakes are so serious as to cause many to stumble and fall under the power of SATAN! I always put up the goods, Skippy. I do not rely on what I imagine Mormon beliefs to be; I quote from Mormon sources. So here goes; THIS is what the Book of Mormon says about human tampering with the Bible and the fruits thereof:
“... thou seest the foundation of a great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.
And all this have they done that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men.
Wherefore, thou seeth that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God.
... because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceeding great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them (Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 13:26-29).”
Now Skippy, what are we to regard as the official Mormon position regarding the correctness and reliability of the Bible?
Shall we rely on that which is plainly set forth in the Book of Mormon or shall we accept instead the semi-literate ramblings of a blundering Mormon apologist on a local Internet forum?
Your call, Skippy
Beternun,
To start with I’m not a Mormon Apologist. I apologies for nothing. I have nothing to apologies for. I’ve said before that our Leaders are not perfect. They say and write some things that are incorrect that is their opinions. But as far as the scripture above in the Book of Mormon 1 Nephi 13:26-29, I’ll break it down for you. Nephi was a Prophet from Jerusalem at about 600 BC. His Mother Father and his Brothers along with another Family were told by the Lord to leave Jerusalem because of the City was about to be sacked as foretold in Prophecy by Jeremiah the Prophet by the Babylonians. It states:
“... thou seest the foundation of a great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.
And all this have they done that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men.
Wherefore, thou seeth that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God.”
The great and abominable church it speaks of is the church of Satan. It is not any Church
in specific just speaking of those who do evil. The book that is spoken of is the
many modern translations and distortions of the true Bible. Possibly the
translation you read from Beternun. The great abominable church could be yours Bills or both. So if that is your church and your book, that would be why you preach your
Hatred instead of what our Savior has taught us about Love. Beternun you think your so brilliant. I got news for you, your not as bright as you think. So keep preaching your d*mnation and burning in hell thing. For myself I chose to follow my Savior in his example of love.
Keep Smiling,
Skippy
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WRONG AGAIN, Skippy. You started by alleging that the changes in the Bible are "very minimal and minor mistakes." Now that I have called your hand, you are dodging and darting and claiming that only certain modern translations and distortions of "the true Bible" are laden with serious error. That being your adjusted position, can you do the forum the favor of telling you just which translation(s) of the Bible have only "very minor and minimal mistakes" and thus fit your descriptor of "the true Bible"? Which translation(s) are not tainted by the machinations of the "church of Satan"?
Meanwhile, think about this. In 1832, the Mormon publication The Evening and the Morning Star (vol. 1, No. 1, p. 3), said that the changes in the Bible were made "by the Mother of Harlots while it was confined in that Church,—say, from the year A.D. 460 to 1400" , over 200 years prior to the translation of the King James Version. Now, Skippy, that sure sounds like the Roman Catholic Church rather than any "church of Satan." It was indeed the Catholic Church that translated and copied Biblical manuscripts in that period and that carefully controlled the distribution of the Holy Scriptures. "Mother of Harlots" is a term commonly used to describe the Catholic Church. Where do you find the church of Satan in all this?
Your attempt to identify the "great and abominable church" with some "church of Satan" is just laughable, Skippy. You will not find one official Mormon source or authority that agrees with you on that silly assertion. I have had Mormon missionaries in my home on at least three occasions who argued insistently that the "great and abominable church" that allegedly corrupted the Bible was indeed the Roman Catholic Church. Not once did any of them mention a "church of Satan."
You just make this strange stuff up as you go, don't you Skippy?