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Hi Chick,

 

When is the last time you have seen a book of fiction with over 1800 prophecies in it, many written hundreds or thousands of years before the prophesied event occurred -- and all of them proven to be true?   Even the New Age astrology books cannot claim that record; nor can the sacred books of any of the world religions.  That tells me that the Bible must be very special.

 

An excerpt from the article you suggested:

 

Steven Smith, of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, said the fiction label identifies the thinking of the labeler more than the content of the book.

 

This reminds me of the old saying, "You can lead a donkey to water, but you cannot make it drink!"

 

Replace "donkey" with atheist, agnostic, vanilla-flavored non-believer, etc. -- and you have the same truth.

 

Funny though, I have often had the same revulsion in book stores when I visit the Religion section and find so many New Age and cult books sitting alongside the Bible.   But, what can I say, that is like having a 10 watt light bulb sitting beside a megawatt Truth beam.  The Truth shall set you free!

 

Thank you for posting this.  Folks should be be aware of such negligence.   But, things can be changed, even at Costco.   About ten years ago, I was aggravated at my local Costco when I purchased about ten items and the clerk checked them and then put them back into my cart -- sans box or bag.   I asked for a bag and was told that Costco does not provide bags, only boxes -- and she was out of boxes.

 

I suggested that the "only boxes" practice was not good -- for I saw a number of older people shopping there, and when the clerk filled a box with products, many times it would be too heavy for some older people to lift into their cars.   I suggested that bags would hold less and be more manageable for seniors.

 

So, I went home and wrote a letter to Costco corporate headquarters.   About a week later, I received a phone call from the local Costco manager.   He told me that he was in a Regional Managers meeting as we spoke -- and that the store would immediately begin to supply paper bags.  Squeaky door got the oil!   It does work, at times.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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It's the Bible, why would any atheist or believer care how a book store labeled

the Bible. It's fiction to those who believe it's fiction, and so on.

I believe 50 Shades of Gray is non-fiction. "You ain't never done nothing that

haven't been done before." Bob Dylan 

In it's own way round about way, it's non-fiction.

 

 

Bill pulls out the prophesy "statistic" again.   Interesting that Bill continues to provide this "fiction", because it certainly does label him.

 

On the flip side of the coin, at one point the local Books-a-Million had Darwin in the fiction section. 

 

One thing is clear, though, the Bible can't be taken literally or as inerrant.  Anyone believing in a six-day creation is either ignorant or brainwashed.

quote:   Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

Bill pulls out the prophesy "statistic" again.   Interesting that Bill continues to provide this "fiction", because it certainly does label him.   On the flip side of the coin, at one point the local Books-a-Million had Darwin in the fiction section.    One thing is clear, though, the Bible can't be taken literally or as inerrant.  Anyone believing in a six-day creation is either ignorant or brainwashed.

Hi Crusty,

 

Some truths have a way of proving themselves, over and over:

 

This reminds me of the old saying, "You can lead a donkey to water, but you cannot make it drink!"

 

Bless your confused little heart!

 

Bill

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but crust, I have clear proof that it is not fiction and that creation of the universe can occur in six days based on an infinite number of possibilities. Some derivative of 'first instant' is larger than a Planck time. The infinity up to the Planck Time on some scale is indefinably  large and also includes every possibility that exists after a Planck Time leaving the Big Bang as a post occurrence to the creation.

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quote:   Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

Bill pulls out the prophesy "statistic" again.   Interesting that Bill continues to provide this "fiction", because it certainly does label him.   On the flip side of the coin, at one point the local Books-a-Million had Darwin in the fiction section.    One thing is clear, though, the Bible can't be taken literally or as inerrant.  Anyone believing in a six-day creation is either ignorant or brainwashed.

Hi Crusty,

 

Some truths have a way of proving themselves, over and over:

 

This reminds me of the old saying, "You can lead a donkey to water, but you cannot make it drink!"

 

Bless your confused little heart!

 

Bill

 

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And your repetitive response proves once again that you are addle brained.  So we agree.

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Originally Posted by Quaildog:

but crust, I have clear proof that it is not fiction and that creation of the universe can occur in six days based on an infinite number of possibilities. Some derivative of 'first instant' is larger than a Planck time. The infinity up to the Planck Time on some scale is indefinably  large and also includes every possibility that exists after a Planck Time leaving the Big Bang as a post occurrence to the creation.

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Using probability to forecast actual events is risky at best.  Saying that it could happen, is not the same as saying that it did happen.  When you switch us to the universe where it did happen, the evidence there will support the fact, no?  If you have evidence that our universe was actually created in six days, throw it out there.

Crust, . Probabilities are used to prove the big bang. I am pointing out possibilities in infinite quantities. Any of which has or will occur but ‘has’ or ‘will’ will be the only label since the uncertainty principle does not allow for any possibility being other than the derivative of the function. In other words any possibility cannot be observed as happening now due to the problem that the possibility’s position and the time that possibility occurred are never know together. A paradox is that when the position of a possibility is known the time must be concurrent with a different possibility’s position. A deeper paradox then is that all possibilities occur and time cannot be a factor.

 

      Crust I would dearly love to show you the evidence of a six, seven or whatever timeframe but you would have to prepare yourself to understand and I don’t see any evidence that you would stay the course.

 

        I have spent many years at the feet of those contemporary and before my time to reach my conclusions. I am comfortable in my beliefs and see no one past present or on the horizon that serve any purpose other than to confirm them.   

QD, you need to brush up on your quantum mechanics...the uncertainty principal in no way prevents you from knowing the exact time and position of an event.

 

You can't know the exact position and momentum of an object simultaneously, and you can't know the exact time an event occurred when you know the exact amount of energy involved (and vice versa), but there's no such restriction in knowing position and time simultaneously.

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