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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
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Originally posted by vplee123:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill Gray:
You accuse: Bill lied about the Roman Catholic church! I respond: SHOW ME! And, you cannot. End of story.

My Friend, by doing this you are showing yourself to be untruthful -- for you make an accusation which you CANNOT support with facts.

Here's a list to start you off:

1. Catholics pray to statues
2. Catholics worship Mary
3. The Rosary cannot be found in the bible
4. The Eucharist is not Biblical
5. If one dies before confessing sins he will go to Hell.
6. The Gospel is not proclaimed in the Catholic CHurch
7. Catholics worship their rosaries, Mary, statues- everything but Jesus Christ.

....that ought to get you started...

Hi VP,

Still no supporting FACTS. You made a list of things I have challenged -- telling you they are not Biblical -- and all you have done is give me a list.

Show me where these things are in the Bible. Show me in the Bible where Mary is Co-Redeemer. Show me in the Bible where Mary is Mother of God or Queen of Heaven. Show me where Mary was born sinless. Show me where Mary went into heaven without dying.

Show me the Rosary in the Bible.

Now, to some of the others. Yes, many, many times I have been in Roman Catholic churches and have seen people kneeling before statues, praying. Who were they praying to if not the statue where they were kneeling? If they were praying to God -- why not just sit in the pew and pray?

Are you telling me that it is not a Mortal Sin for a Roman Catholic to die without having confessed and being absolved by a priest?

If that is true, then why do the priests perform last rites over the dying? As a matter of fact; why do they?

No, VP, you have not responded to me with any facts, only a list.

But, if you cannot, not a problem -- many Roman Catholics only play "follow the leader" and have no real idea why they are doing many of the rituals or what they mean.
bg

Show me protestant in the Bible. You can't even show
a complete bible. Get thee behind me satan.
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1. Catholics pray to statues
2. Catholics worship Mary
3. The Rosary cannot be found in the bible
4. The Eucharist is not Biblical
5. If one dies before confessing sins he will go to Hell.
6. The Gospel is not proclaimed in the Catholic CHurch
7. Catholics worship their rosaries, Mary, statues- everything but Jesus Christ.

I found this interesting.

1. Fundies pray to a god that is unrecognizable in the New Testament.
2. Fundies worship fiction. OK, this one's a draw.
3. Christmas cannot be found in the Bible.
4. Easter is not found in the Bible.
5. If one divorces, he will go to Hell.
6. The Gospel cannot be proclaimed anywhere, as it is contradictory.
7. Fundies worship nonsense and BS made up by mad preachers. Need I mention souls at conception?

It's all madness. All of it.
No, VP, you have not responded to me with any facts, only a list.

But, if you cannot, not a problem -- many Roman Catholics only play "follow the leader" and have no real idea why they are doing many of the rituals or what they mean.


No, you are incorrect. I have shown you all the Biblical sources for these things. Again, please re-read all old posts, because you clearly were not paying attention. I am not going to repeat myself.
I know exactly WHY I do what I do. You have no grounds on which to claim Catholics "follow the leader". I have a comprehensive understanding of catechism, and read the Bible every day.
I do not kneel in front of statues- I kneel in the Presence of the Holy Eucharist- in front of Jesus. That's all.
Now, if you want to go and debate catholicism, take it up with someone who isn't tired of your constant lies and bitterness.
As I've said many times, you are NOT doing Christ's work by lying and being ugly.
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Are you telling me that it is not a Mortal Sin for a Roman Catholic to die without having confessed and being absolved by a priest?


Confession is not for Jesus, it is for the repenitent. To gain insight into their sinfulness and pray for the strength to avoid further sin.
Please go to www.fathercorapi.com and he has several excellent short lectures on Reconciliation. He is a Republican from California- you'll love him!!!
(His videos are also on youtube if you are afraid that fathercorapi.com may cause your computer to implode) Big Grin
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Originally posted by Billy Joe Bob Gene:
found this interesting.

1. Fundies pray to a god that is unrecognizable in the New Testament.
2. Fundies worship fiction. OK, this one's a draw.
3. Christmas cannot be found in the Bible.
4. Easter is not found in the Bible.
5. If one divorces, he will go to Hell.
6. The Gospel cannot be proclaimed anywhere, as it is contradictory.
7. Fundies worship nonsense and BS made up by mad preachers. Need I mention souls at conception?

It's all madness. All of it.

PRAISE RICHARD DAWKINS! - WE IS SAVED! - WE IS SAVED! - AMEN! DEEPFAT!

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