Is there a collective true identity ?

If you are getting tired of defending Obama by all means take a vacation but it won't stop our kids from Inheriting this:

Well, Joe, all the worry about the debt is just talk., What is really important is jobs. It's still "the economy stupid".

I hope Obama wakes up and quits falling into this Republican fear tactic, and quits worring so much about the debt. After all, he has increased US spending the least of any president in modern history.

You do need a vacation

I hope Obama wakes up and quits falling into this Republican fear tactic, and quits worring so much about the debt. After all, he has increased US spending the least of any president in modern history.

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Now that is funny. I can see how demos can "go on vacation" and not worry about things when they choose to ignore the facts. Bet more people would like to be able to do that, but unfortunately they can't afford it, seeing as how they've lost everything they had under obama, and there's no hope of getting it back anytime soon. Maybe they could add one more give away program-"vacation packages for the ones whose lives are being ruined by the left". Naw, the gimmethats would grab all the vacation packages, claiming that standing in line to get on all the new government programs is tiring for them and they DESERVE the vacations.

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If you are really that concerned about your fellow man and their employment problems, I encourage you to write your two senators and your rep encouraging them to support the Jobs Bill Obama tried to get thru Congress 2 years ago. As I recall , it would have put 18,000 people to work in Alabama.

Don't be fooled by Fox,

Listen , learn

http://www.upworthy.com/the-co...to-you-by-math?c=bl3

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It's kind of hard to be "fooled" by Fox since I haven't watched it in about 8 or more years. The last time I watched Fox the liberal E.D. Hill was on, and slobbering all over any lefty they had as a guest. I'm also not fooled by the left's LIES about jobs, and it's been pointed out many many times that a liberal's "math skills" leave a lot to be desired. 

Listen , learn

Great advice, Seeweed!

http://www.politico.com/story/...nes-88816.html?hp=l6

I highly doubt that the entire world watches and is "fooled" by Fox.

If you are really that concerned about your fellow man and their employment problems, I encourage you to write your two senators and your rep encouraging them to support the Jobs Bill Obama tried to get thru Congress 2 years ago.

Didn't the jobs bill you mentioned actually get signed into law?

http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/1...my/Senate_jobs_vote/

How'd that work out?

or just laying on the boat floating down the river manufacturing Vitamin D in large quantities while cooling off with an ice cold beer

Would that be de Nile river perhaps?? Seems you spend an awful lot of time on it already!

"All the worry about the debt is just talk"???

Seeweed should change his name to Smokeweed.

Trying to spend our way out debt (Obama's plan) is like an alcoholic drinking his way to sobriety.

See Weed, I too will be trying to fish, ride my motorcycle, and spend time with my grand sons.  I will never drink the koolaid that obuma supporters seem to enjoy.  To his credit he is killing a few terrorist with buzz bombs.  That is the only good thing accomplished during his tenure as president.

I drink gin and tonic around the house, on the boat or on the beach it's cold beer !!!!  No Koolaid for me

Man made global warming is a myth.   The libs were predicting an ice age 30 years ago.  The earth warms and cools. Al Gore is an idiot.  

Never tried gin and tonic.  I do like beer, just not in my boat unless there is a sober scantily clad lady to drive for me.  I cannot support a president who believes " we need to spread the wealth".

Ride safe and keep the shiny side up.  It hurts to dismount over the windshield at highway speeds.

You and seeweed should get a room.

Jobe, I try to disagree civily with folks on here these days.  Recent events have convinced me to try and be a little nicer.  Being nice does not mean that I am weak.

I’ve found you can’t be nice to seeweed. He’s like a little kid. If you don’t agree with him…………he may be nice at first but eventually he will call you names or put you down.  

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During warm weather on a week-end try out the Yellow Creek Water Falls, so many scantily clad young ladies there you don't even need to bring your own, but you better bring a cooler of cold beer.

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No, it means you are intelligent, unlike Jobe.

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Didn't I tell ya? Instead of letting go he just keeps on.

Seeweed you are a liar and a coward. If you were a man at all you would say this in front of my face.

And just whose fault is that ?
http://www.reuters.com/article...dUSL1N0C5FBN20130314

The major accomplishment of this little screwup was to remove the primary check on the religious nuts in Iran, so now we gotta spend money worrying about them.

Once again seeweed you proved yourself a coward. Not surprising for someone conceived in a barn.

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I agree, and that is why I did not vote for the person who's stated policy would be to take from those of us who are middle class , and give that money to the top 2% of the wealthy in this country. 

His VP candidate is still trying to do just that. 

Now, I'm sure during the past few months you heard a lot obout income distribution in this country, but do you really , truly , understand just what this is about ?

Take a look at this video and get an idea , because , well, it probably aint what you think it is :

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8I1dheHQ9s

Now, I will tell you right up front, that I do not think it is right, for Ryan, and the Republicans to try to pass a budget (which house republicans passed, Senate would not take it up) , which reduces the savings I put money into all my life since I was 14, just so they can give it to the richest 1 or 2% of the people in this country, and that is exactly what they are fighting to do. 

That, my friend, is wealth redistrubiton that is really going on, and that is why I support a President and a party that does not want that to happen. 

That video assumes that the "wealth pie" is static and there are only so many slices to go around which is simply not the case. It also offers no solution besides parroting the lie of the left which is, "you are poor because someone else is rich". 

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I tend to think that "you are poor because someone else is greedy"

This country has been here before, in the 20s . It was called the "Gilded Age", and the distribution of wealth in the country was just about where it is right now. Things have a way of sorting themselves out, back then it was the Great Depression, we may still have one to come dependingn which bunch controls our government inthe near future.

How does someone being greedy make someone else poor? 

Is there a collective true identity of the libs? Why yes there is:

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How does being rich make someone else poor ?

Neither are accurate, but both do contain some truth.

So now you say "neither are accurate" after you just said that someone being greedy equals someone being poor?

should govt regulate greed? If they regulate greed should they also take on the other deadly sins as well?

does anyone think the ceo of a corporation is worth 380times more than the AVERAGE employee?
the AVERAGE employee must work over 30 days to equal what the AVERAGE CEO makes in ONE HOUR. the last time the pay scale was this skewed, it was called the "gilded age".  from the gilded age we have unions and the standard of labor we still use, today. as well as many other social standards such as "women’s suffrage" were born in this age.

those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it.

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We saw that in the last election.

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you poor, misguided, shortsighted person.

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Me????? No, I'm not a democrat.

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I actually edited that statement, but for some reason it didn't make it into the post.

Let's take and example of how greed of the super wealthy can make someone poor: I'll give two examples:

A greedy rich person can buy a politician - many are for sale.

Then they can get that bought and paid for politician to skew a budget such as the one Paul Ryan has put forth and the House passed - Senate would have nothing to do with it tho.

A thing in Ryan's budget is to end Medicare (a most helpful insurance plan especially for the old and less well off) , an insurance plan that they paid for most of their working lives, and still pay for , and just give a voucher for $650 to a person on Medicare and just let them find whatever insurance plan they could find, and pay the difference themselves. Now, Ryan's plan is to do that , NOT in order to reduce the defecit, or even to pay down the debt, but to give more tax breaks to the super rich that that video clip talked about. According to Money.com today, that would ammount to a $200,000 savings for those people. That my friend, is shifting the cost of government from the richest to the old, retired, and poor in this country . This is wealth redistribution from poor to rich, and it is a result of greed.

A second example.

Two brothers, last year made $4B each in their oil business. Yes, the Koch Brothers, the sons of the man who started the John Birch Society. They are purchasing their politicians with orders to eleminate the EPA so they can pollute more and save money from having to produce their product in a safe manner.

Now, I hope you would agree that if pollution from dirty energy sources is killing people, that it is a tragedy, even tho it is not your own child, or may be even a Black child, but that making people sick is wrong when something could be done to prevent it, but isn't so that people who are making $4B a year can make some more. 

That's greed, and I also hope, you can agree that making people sick is making people poorer , rich and poor are not ALWAYS decided by money.

It is up to a business to decide how much they pay their CEO and not the govt. 

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how exactly did we get "unions"?

Are you also upset that Matt Damon makes $15m per movie when other people on the set just make a couple of thousand?