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Finally , a news story about the real reason that law enforcement does not want to end the prohibition on marijuana -  it would stop their ability to steal property from people .
http://www.orlandosentinel.com...-20140919-story.html

 

 

 

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― Thomas Paine

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Do I think what is OK? Angry and screwed up because I don't like pot heads? Angry and screwed up because I can't stand people that have to get messed up in the head? Angry and screwed up because people **** away money on that crap while others pay their bills? Angry and screwed up because people blame their criminal behavior on the s***, like that's an excuse and they should get a pass? Angry and screwed up because it's unhealthy among other things and young teens are smoking the crap? Angry and screwed up because people drive while under the influence of the s***? I think angry and screwed up people are the ones that have to escape reality and can't live without being ****** up, and angry and screwed up people think others should be just fine with it. BTW, I don't like drunks either.

I don't know how old you are, I don't know if you ever had to work for a living, but I do know I had to start working at a very early age. I never thought it was funny or cool to work with punks that had nothing on their mind except getting high, and that went for getting high at work too. It wasn't fun for the ones that didn't do it to have to do our job and theirs too when they smoked the **** at work. It wasn't fun knowing we better watch them like hawks because they'd steal from us if they got half a chance. IF you don't think that goes on at work, ha ha, think again!!!! I could never tolerate the smell, and it made my eyes burn and itch just being around them when they were smoking it. We were all kids so naturally we didn't 'tell on' them, but dayum, it would have been funny as heck to know someone robbed their sorry *****! Just think, they got their grubby hands on some money, maybe stole it from us, and are headed out to get their **** and get high, and someone robs them!!  Would that be poetic justice? I don't know, but it would have been hilarious!!!

Best, I ain't gonna tell you to take a hit and chill.(that's supposed to be funny)

 

I don't really know why I passed up the drugs and pot. I worked construction before drug testing started. I was around a lot of it and watched a lot of workers using while on the job. I just never wanted to do it. As long as they did their share, I had no problem with it, but I wasn't going to do their work if they were messed up.

 

The police are real quick to steal property in the name of "drug enforcement". Actually it is really "police enrichment".

 

 

Originally Posted by OldMan:

I've known lots of folks over the years that smoked weed. You wouldn't believe how many elderly folks,  police officers, or professors were tokers. I've never known of anyone that stole or committed any other crime to buy pot. Not saying that it's never happened, just that in 64+ years I don't know of any .

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most 'weed smokers' are entirely too paranoid to ever steal! bahahaha!

Well jt, I'd say that's one mature thing I've seen you do, resist telling a person to smoke dope. Only an idiot would urge others to do that. (By the way, NOT talking about medical marijuana here-dope heads don't like the medical marijuana that doesn't get them high). Drug testing-useless unless done right, and I'm sure your construction buddies knew how to pass the tests, and we can all try not to think of what kind of structures those stoned workmen built. 

 

Old man, I don't really care what position or job dope heads hold, they're still punks, and instead of being admired, hope they don't have a lot of say in determining your future. I've seen people on this very forum, that push for drug use, yet have the ba*** to bi*** when it's found out someone that did something they don't agree with, such as the cops you mention, smoked dope or used drugs!

Talk about hypocrites. So you don't know of any that stole to support their habit? Could be they wouldn't admit to it.

As I said, you may not know it goes on, you may deny it goes on, but believe me it goes on. Ask a few teens-that is if you know any that will tell you anything.  I'd have never discussed it with adults back then. Ask a few cops, unless you're like some on here that harbors hatred for every cop in the world, portray them as scum and claim they're out to get them and every other 'innocent' person in the world. Ask a few families that have been torn apart by drug use. It isn't a well kept secret.

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Drug testing-no use unless done right, and I'm sure your construction buddies knew how to pass the tests, and we can all try not to think of what kind of structures those stoned workmen built. 

 

Nuclear plants, oil refineries and such as that.  As I said, it was before drug testing.

 

Why not have initial and random drug testing for all elected state and federal offices? The last few years that I worked, every time I went to a different job, I had to show a picture ID and then take a drug test. The last job lasted 14 years, I had to take random drug tests at various times and places.

To what end? What happens when they test positive for drugs?

 

They don't get hired. In the nuclear field, I think it's a nationwide ban for 3 years. Not certain of the time span.  The mandatory drug tests made it a lot easier for me to work.

In 1997, I was working in Atlanta, where every job had a drug test, craftsmen of my trade were driving 150 mile round trip to a plant in Rome and making $6 per hour less because there was no drug test. That stuff has got to be good.

Well, it seems that Jennifer thinks that because some people may smoke pot, that it is alright for police to steal money from people that have no drug affiliation (as the ones in the article) as long as the cops can say they "suspect" that money was from a drug transaction. This was a directive of GHW Bush, and I am disappointed in Clinton, Bush2, and now Obama that they have not thrown out this police state directive. Clinton did end part of it when he made it legal for doctors to give enough pain medication to terminal patients to keep them comfortable , but we should end this ridiculous "war on drugs" . It has failed, and made the US the most incarcerated nation on Earth.

De-criminalization of pot, maybe even legalization is coming , so you better get used to it.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

To what end? What happens when they test positive for drugs?

 

They don't get hired. In the nuclear field, I think it's a nationwide ban for 3 years. Not certain of the time span.  The mandatory drug tests made it a lot easier for me to work.

In 1997, I was working in Atlanta, where every job had a drug test, craftsmen of my trade were driving 150 mile round trip to a plant in Rome and making $6 per hour less because there was no drug test. That stuff has got to be good.

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You said elected officials. Elected, not hired, and people will still elect dopers.

 

 

 

In 1997, I was working in Atlanta, where every job had a drug test, craftsmen of my trade were driving 150 mile round trip to a plant in Rome and making $6 per hour less because there was no drug test. That stuff has got to be good.

 

So, apparently they were being hired. As I said, they know how to get around it. If you really think about it, it's hard to come up with anything good about it. I can't find the upside to it.

 

Originally Posted by seeweed:

Well, it seems that Jennifer thinks that because some people may smoke pot, that it is alright for police to steal money from people that have no drug affiliation (as the ones in the article) as long as the cops can say they "suspect" that money was from a drug transaction. This was a directive of GHW Bush, and I am disappointed in Clinton, Bush2, and now Obama that they have not thrown out this police state directive. Clinton did end part of it when he made it legal for doctors to give enough pain medication to terminal patients to keep them comfortable , but we should end this ridiculous "war on drugs" . It has failed, and made the US the most incarcerated nation on Earth.

De-criminalization of pot, maybe even legalization is coming , so you better get used to it.

 

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First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account. Secondly WHAT I have actually 'said', so to speak, and not what YOU claim I mean, is that I would find it hilarious, and some sort of justice, to know the weasels and little thieves stealing from people who have no drug affiliations, are being victimized themselves, no matter who's doing it to them. Thirdly, again, it's not about medical marijuana, so you need to drop that charade. Try being honest, people want to get ****** up and act the fool without any consequences, be it with alcohol or marijuana or some other drug of choice. Fourthly, I don't have to 'get used to it', it's been here all my life, so the little, oh I don't know, threat of yours, (it's coming) means nothing. As stated, I've had the-pleasure of working and going to school with pot heads. You might like them, you might enjoy being around them, but that does not mean I have to feel the same.

 

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Finally , a news story about the real reason that law enforcement does not want to end the prohibition on marijuana -  it would stop their ability to steal property from people .

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BTW, this is a very stupid post from you. In it you do exactly what you accuse others of doing-painting everyone in a group as being the same. In your case it's everyone in law enforcement.

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To what end? What happens when they test positive for drugs?

I  will  type  slow.   Read  below

They don't get hired. In the nuclear field, I think it's a nationwide ban for 3 years. Not certain of the time span.  The mandatory drug tests made it a lot easier for me to work.

In 1997, I was working in Atlanta, where every job had a drug test, craftsmen of my trade were driving 150 mile round trip to a plant in Rome and making $6 per hour less because there was no drug test. That stuff has got to be good.

You said elected officials. Elected, not hired, and people will still elect dopers.

Yes,  I  said  elected.   Give  them  drug  tests.   Give  them  random  tests.   The  jobs  that  are  not  very  good  do  not  require  drug  testing.

So, apparently they were being hired. As I said, they know how to get around it. If you really think about it, it's hard to come up with anything good about it. I can't find the upside to it.

Unless it's medical pot, I don't know of anything good about pot or drugs.  Maybe a good side of it was that I was able to work more because I don't fail drug screenings.

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by seeweed:

Well, it seems that Jennifer thinks that because some people may smoke pot, that it is alright for police to steal money from people that have no drug affiliation (as the ones in the article) as long as the cops can say they "suspect" that money was from a drug transaction. This was a directive of GHW Bush, and I am disappointed in Clinton, Bush2, and now Obama that they have not thrown out this police state directive. Clinton did end part of it when he made it legal for doctors to give enough pain medication to terminal patients to keep them comfortable , but we should end this ridiculous "war on drugs" . It has failed, and made the US the most incarcerated nation on Earth.

De-criminalization of pot, maybe even legalization is coming , so you better get used to it.

 

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First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account. Secondly WHAT I have actually 'said', so to speak, and not what YOU claim I mean, is that I would find it hilarious, and some sort of justice, to know the weasels and little thieves stealing from people who have no drug affiliations, are being victimized themselves, no matter who's doing it to them. Thirdly, again, it's not about medical marijuana, so you need to drop that charade. Try being honest, people want to get ****** up and act the fool without any consequences, be it with alcohol or marijuana or some other drug of choice. Fourthly, I don't have to 'get used to it', it's been here all my life, so the little, oh I don't know, threat of yours, (it's coming) means nothing. As stated, I've had the-pleasure of working and going to school with pot heads. You might like them, you might enjoy being around them, but that does not mean I have to feel the same.

 

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I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine.
The article states that (in Florida) , police do not  support the legalization of mj because they make so damm much money frome it . Last year, $230M.
The second article, I apologize, I could not get it to come up either. It stated that a couple got stopped for speeding, and for no reason ask to search the car. Since there was nothing to hide, the couple said ok. As it happened , they had $48K in cash as they were on their way to buy a house . The police seized it saying it was drug money.
Same thing happened I posted a while back up in Tn. A man was stoopped for some reason, and the HP found he had $20k in cash as he was on his way to buy a car. They seized the money for the same reason.
You may be ok with this, but I think it is theft just as if someone broke into your house and stole your money. Only difference is the criminal in this case is the police and the theft is sanctioned by law enforcement.

Maybe you can view this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...9/06/stop-and-seize/

Here is the article I was referencing, maybe this one will work:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2...e-steal-from-couple/

 

Here is C&P of the first article:
he opposition of the Florida Sheriffs Association to Amendment 2 has more to do with cash than public safety. The sheriffs have become so accustomed to federal anti-drug money and property forfeitures that they resist any change that might someday shut off their pipeline of cash, cars and property.

Consider Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd, Florida's most vocal opponent of medical-marijuana reform.

During his highly publicized debate with attorney John Morgan, Judd vigorously defended his motives: "It may come as a shock to you," he told the audience in Lakeland, "but our budget is not predicated on arrests; it's not predicated on seizures; it's not created so we can spend that operating money on cars, or capital equipment, or operating equipment, or salaries."

Hogwash.

According to Justice Department records, the Polk County Sheriff's Office took in more than $1.2 million from the federal Assets Forfeiture Fund just since 2007, part of the $230 million that all of Florida's law-enforcement agencies received from the fund during that period.

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The fund distributes the proceeds of property seized in law-enforcement asset forfeitures, primarily from those suspected of drug crimes. No arrest is even required, and the standard of proof is significantly less than in a criminal case, making it a favorite tool of police and prosecutors. Carrying excess cash? It can be confiscated if officials can convince a judge the funds came from drug trafficking. Caught driving with a marijuana cigarette? Your car can be hauled away.

Between 1989 and 2010, U.S. attorneys seized at least $12.6 billion in assets, with the fund growing sixfold in just two decades, and from $2.9 billion to $4.4 billion in 2012 alone.

The states were quick to jump on the forfeiture bandwagon, and Florida was no exception. According to a 2010 Institute for Justice study, Florida law-enforcement agencies seized $104 million in assets between 2001 and 2003.

Florida's Contraband Forfeiture Act lets the sheriffs and other local law-enforcement agencies keep 85 percent of the value of the property they seize, with the remainder given to charities — doubtless buying considerable good will for the elected sheriffs at campaign time.

Where does the money go? In 2003, it was reported that top Tampa police officials kept a 43-vehicle fleet of captured cars that included five Lincoln Navigators, a pair of Ford Expeditions, a BMW, a Lexus and — former Police Chief Bennie Holder's personal favorite — a $38,000 Chevy Tahoe.

More recently, federal officials froze nearly $30 million that had been seized by police in tiny Bal Harbor (population 2,574), after the department was found spending the money on a $100,000 35-foot boat with three Mercury outboards, a $7,000 police chiefs' banquet, a $15,000 laser virtual firing range and an "anti-drug beach bash," with a reported price tag of $21,000.

In the Broward County town of Sunrise, millions in soon-to-be-forfeited cash led narcotics officers to lure international drug buyers into suburban restaurants so the department could confiscate $6 million in just two years. Much of the money went for police overtime in coordinating the seizures, with one narcotics detective in 2012 bringing home a combined salary and overtime of $183,156 — more than his chief of police earned.

Law enforcement should be about protecting the public, not pocketing profits. The Niagara of forfeited money flowing into sheriffs' offices and police departments distorts the police mission — and, in the case of Florida's Amendment 2, has blinded some law-enforcement administrators to the compassionate benefits of medical marijuana.

No amount of money justifies turning otherwise law-abiding patients into criminals or forcing sick people into the illicit drug market, where their dollars support drug cartels and criminal gangs. The only risk posed by Amendment 2 is to the police administrators' bottom lines.

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Best says: "First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account."

 

Me neither.

 

Weed says:  "I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine."

 

I don't knowo why either.

 

Normally, I would be offended when someone paints my profession with such a large brush.  But then I stop and consider the source.

 

Have a nice day, Seeweed.

 

Originally Posted by budsfarm:

 

Best says: "First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account."

 

Me neither.  & yes, me too.

 

Weed says:  "I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine."

 

I don't knowo why either.

 

Normally, I would be offended when someone paints my profession with such a large brush.  But then I stop and consider the source.

 

Have a nice day, Seeweed.

 

 

 

Best says: "First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account."

 

Me neither.  & yes, me too.

 

Weed says:  "I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine."

 

I don't knowo why either.

 

Normally, I would be offended when someone paints my profession with such a large brush.  But then I stop and consider the source.

 

Have a nice day, Seeweed.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

To what end? What happens when they test positive for drugs?

I  will  type  slow.   Read  below

They don't get hired. In the nuclear field, I think it's a nationwide ban for 3 years. Not certain of the time span.  The mandatory drug tests made it a lot easier for me to work.

In 1997, I was working in Atlanta, where every job had a drug test, craftsmen of my trade were driving 150 mile round trip to a plant in Rome and making $6 per hour less because there was no drug test. That stuff has got to be good.

You said elected officials. Elected, not hired, and people will still elect dopers.

Yes,  I  said  elected.   Give  them  drug  tests.   Give  them  random  tests.   The  jobs  that  are  not  very  good  do  not  require  drug  testing.

So, apparently they were being hired. As I said, they know how to get around it. If you really think about it, it's hard to come up with anything good about it. I can't find the upside to it.

Unless it's medical pot, I don't know of anything good about pot or drugs.  Maybe a good side of it was that I was able to work more because I don't fail drug screenings.

 

 

  

 

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 Let me type even slower. You said:

 

Why not have initial and random drug testing for all elected state and federal offices?

I asked you to what end, because people will still vote for them or resist having them removed from office. Then you switch to people that are hired.  Elected and hired are two different things, even though the end result is supposed to be the same, they should work for all of us.  Of course they don't work for all of us, but anywho, the problem isn't my comprehension, it's your changing horses in the middle of the stream.

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Originally Posted by budsfarm:
 

Best says: "First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account."

 

Me neither.  & yes, me too.

 

Weed says:  "I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine."

 

I don't knowo why either.

 

Normally, I would be offended when someone paints my profession with such a large brush.  But then I stop and consider the source.

 

Have a nice day, Seeweed.

 

 

 Yes, login or set up an account, and if you need help signing in it directs you to a help page.

 

Weed, you keep harping on medical marijuana, and I keep posting that IS NOT what I am discussing. Months back I posted article after article about medical marijuana and it's benefits, but how it's not real popular because it doesn't get the 'sick folks'  high. You know, those, wink wink sick folks with those hazy, questionable medical problems? Oh, someone looked at them wrong and now they're all hurt mentally and need it to make them feel better and be able to cope! Give me a break.

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Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:

Just "chill" 'till you get around age...50!

Then you can go to ANY amount of "Doctors" in this area and get...

Xanax...Oxycontin...Lorcet...etc... (can be PAID for by the US Gov'ment Medicaid/Medicare...)

And, be LEGALLY stoned!

BUT! DO NOT smoke a naturally growing plant????

Is smoking "Grape Vine" Illegal"????

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Once more, because you can do something doesn't mean you should. You're still a useless waste of flesh if you abuse "legal" drugs. And again, does grape vine get a person high?

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Originally Posted by budsfarm:
 

Best says: "First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account."

 

Me neither.  & yes, me too.

 

Weed says:  "I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine."

 

I don't knowo why either.

 

Normally, I would be offended when someone paints my profession with such a large brush.  But then I stop and consider the source.

 

Have a nice day, Seeweed.

 

 

 

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Well, since I did a c&p on the article, I have to assume you stand on the side of keeping mj illegal , for no other reason than to allow cops to seize (steal) peoples houses and cars if they are caught with even small amounts of mj in their car or houses, or as the second article states, if they catch a person carrying cash in any large amounts. (I am not sure what "large amounts" really means)
Is that your position Bud ?
BTW, it was not me that painted that "broad brush" picture, it was the writer of the article .

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Weed, you keep harping on medical marijuana, and I keep posting that IS NOT what I am discussing. Months back I posted article after article about medical marijuana and it's benefits, but how it's not real popular because it doesn't get the 'sick folks'  high. You know, those, wink wink sick folks with those hazy, questionable medical problems? Oh, someone looked at them wrong and now they're all hurt mentally and need it to make them feel better and be able to cope! Give me a break.

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Well, I do support medical marijuana, but I said nothing about it in the post,. You need to do a little research on this herb before you discount it's ability. As far as I know, at least one pharmaceutical company uses it's ingredients in a pill - Marinol, but I guess it is for "wink, wink sick folks" ?

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:

Just "chill" 'till you get around age...50!

Then you can go to ANY amount of "Doctors" in this area and get...

Xanax...Oxycontin...Lorcet...etc... (can be PAID for by the US Gov'ment Medicaid/Medicare...)

And, be LEGALLY stoned!

BUT! DO NOT smoke a naturally growing plant????

Is smoking "Grape Vine" Illegal"????

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Once more, because you can do something doesn't mean you should. You're still a useless waste of flesh if you abuse "legal" drugs. And again, does grape vine get a person high?

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No, but why does that part seem to irritate you ?

Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:

Just "chill" 'till you get around age...50!

Then you can go to ANY amount of "Doctors" in this area and get...

Xanax...Oxycontin...Lorcet...etc... (can be PAID for by the US Gov'ment Medicaid/Medicare...)

And, be LEGALLY stoned!

BUT! DO NOT smoke a naturally growing plant????

Is smoking "Grape Vine" Illegal"????

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Why would you want to take an addictive substance that has killed people, when a better option is avaliable that is not addictive, and not one death has ever been attributed to it ? . MJ has been used socially (recreational) for about 10,000 years according to some archeological records in the Near East.

Here's a short list of papers that show the benefits of weed:

 

Brain Damage:
Adolescent Pot Use Leaves Lasting Mental Deficits (Duke University)
Brain-damage risks higher for younger marijuana users, study says (Harvard Medical School)
Cannabis and adolescence: A dangerous cocktail (McGill University Health Centre)
Cannabis 'can cause psychosis in healthy people' (King's College London)
Cannabis Could Increase Risks Of Psychotic Illness By 40 Percent (Cardiff University)
Cannabis increases risk of psychosis (British Medical Journal)
Cannabis increases risk of depression and schizophrenia (British Medical Journal)
Cannabis ingredient causes toxic psychosis (University of Lausanne)
Cannabis link to psychosis (University of New South Wales)
Cannabis smokers 'are taking huge risk of psychotic illness' (King's College London)
Cannabis smoking 'permanently lowers IQ' (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences)
Cannabis Triggers Transient Schizophrenia-like Symptoms (Yale School of Medicine)
Cannabis use 'dulls the brain' (Journal of the American Medical Association)
Cannabis use mimics cognitive weakness that can lead to schizophrenia (University of Bergen)
Cannabis use precedes the onset of psychotic symptoms in young people (British Medical Journal)
Casual marijuana use linked to brain abnormalities in students (Northwestern University)
Chronic alcohol and marijuana use during youth can compromise white-matter integrity (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center)
Concerns over mental health risk of smoking cannabis (British Journal of Psychiatry)
Daily Consumption Of Cannabis Predisposes To Appearance Of Psychosis And Schizophrenia (University of Granada)
Daily Pot Smoking May Hasten Onset of Psychosis (Emory University)
Early Cannabis Use Increases Risk of Schizophrenia (University of Otago)
Early cannabis users three times more likely to have psychotic symptoms (University of Queensland)
Frequent Marijuana Use May Affect Brain Function (University of Iowa)
Heavy Cannabis Use May Lead to Psychotic Symptoms (University of Otago)
Heavy Marijuana use has a detrimental impact on intelligence (Canadian Medical Association Journal)
Heavy Marijuana Use May Damage Developing Brain In Teens, Young Adults (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia)
How cannabis causes 'cognitive chaos' in the brain (University of Bristol)
How Marijuana Causes Memory Deficits (Nature Neuroscience)
How marijuana impairs memory (Cell Journal)
How Smoking Marijuana Damages The Fetal Brain (Science)
Human Study Shows Greater Cognitive Deficits in Marijuana Users Who Start Young (Society for Neuroscience)
Imaging Shows Similarities in Brains of Marijuana Smokers, Schizophrenics (Radiological Society of North America)
Imaging Study Shows Awareness Deficit in Marijuana Abusers (Neuropsychopharmacology Journal)
Lab study shows THC exposure as adolescents linked to negative effects of THC as adults (Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology)
Long-time cannabis use associated with psychosis (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Long-term cannabis use causes brain injury (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Long-term cannabis use may blunt the brain's motivation system (Imperial College London)
Marijuana And Alcohol Taken Together Induced Widespread Nerve Cell Death In Brains Of Young Rats (Annals of Neurology Journal)
Marijuana has damaging effect on brain (King's College London)
Marijuana Use Affects Blood Flow In Brain Even After Abstinence (American Academy of Neurology)
Marijuana use in adolescence may cause permanent brain abnormalities (University of Maryland Medical Center)
Marijuana use in pregnancy damages kids' learning (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences)
Marijuana Users Have Abnormal Brain Structure and Poor Memory (Northwestern University)
Memory, speed of thinking get worse over time with marijuana use (American Academy of Neurology)
Mental illness associated with heavy cannabis use (Centre for Addiction and Mental Health)
Molecular Imaging Shows Chronic Marijuana Smoking Affects Brain Chemistry (Society of Nuclear Medicine)
More Evidence Links Early Cannabis Use to Psychosis (City University of New York)
More evidence of cannabis-induced psychosis (BMC Psychiatry Journal)
New RCSI research demonstrates how cannabis use during adolescence affects brain regions associated with schizophrenia (Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland)
New research reveals how cannabis alters brain function (King's College London)
Psychotic illness appears to begin at younger age among those who use cannabis (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Rat study conducted by UGA researchers suggests that cannabis interferes with sustained attention (University of Georgia)
Regular marijuana use bad for teens' brains (American Psychological Association)
Research Finds that Marijuana Use Takes Toll on Adolescent Brain Function (University of Cincinnati)
Scans reveal brain damage from cannabis is like schizophrenia (Albert Einstein College of Medicine)
Schizophrenia Linked To Dysfunction In Molecular Brain Pathway Activated By Marijuana (University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine)
Skunk 'poses greatest risk of psychosis' (King's College London)
Skunk smokers 18 times more likely to be psychotic (Royal College of Psychiatrists)
Smoking cannabis increases the risk of depression in the case of genetic vulnerability (Radboud University)
Starting marijuana use during teens may result in cognitive impairment later in life (National Institute on Drug Abuse)
Study demonstrates link between reclassification of cannabis and cannabis psychosis (University of York)
Study Links Marijuana to Brain Problems (Journal of the American Medical Association)
Teen Drug Use Associated With Psychiatric Disorders Later In Life (National Institute On Drug Abuse)
Teen Marijuana Use Can Lead to Anxiety, Depression, or Aggression (Mount Sinai School of Medicine)
Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression: An Analysis of Recent Data Shows 'Self-Medicating' Could Actually Make Things Worse (Office of National Drug Control Policy)

Cancer:
Cannabis alters human DNA -- new study (University of Leicester)
Higher Cancer Risk Found in Marijuana Than in Tobacco (Indiana University)
Marijuana Use Linked to Increased Risk of Testicular Cancer (Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center)
Marijuana use may increase risk of testicular cancer (University of Southern California)
New study reveals how cannabis suppresses immune functions: Cannabis compounds found to trigger unique immune cells which promote cancer growth (European Journal of Immunology)
Researchers At UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center Report Smoking Marijuana May Increase Risk Of Head And Neck Cancers (University of California, Los Angeles)
Sexual Activity and Marijuana Use Associated with HPV-Positive Head and Neck Cancer, Study Shows (Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center)
Study finds marijuana ingredient promotes tumor growth, impairs anti-tumor defenses (National Institute on Drug Abuse)
Tobacco is 'less risky than dope' (Memorial Sloan–Kettering Cancer Center)

Death:
German study finds cannabis use triggered 2 deaths (Forensic Science International Journal)

Gum Disease:
Heavy Marijuana Use Linked To Gum Disease (Journal of the American Medical Association)

Heart Disease:
Adolescent binging on marijuana linked to stroke (Saint Louis University)
Marijuana use can trigger heart attack (Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center)
Marijuana use may increase heart complications in young, middle-aged adults (American Heart Association)
Regular Cannabis May Increase Risk Of Stroke In Young Users (British Medical Journal)
Smoking Marijuana Associated With Higher Stroke Risk in Young Adults (American Heart Association)
Study Finds Marijuana Poses Health Threat to Baby Boomers (Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center)
Study finds possible connection between marijuana abuse and stroke or heart attacks (Molecular Psychiatry Journal)

Lung Disease:
Growing Evidence Of Marijuana Smoke's Potential Dangers (American Chemical Society)
Impact on lungs of 1 cannabis joint equal to up to 5 cigarettes (British Medical Journal)
Long-term Marijuana Smoking Leads To Respiratory Complaints (Yale School of Medicine)
Marijuana associated with same respiratory symptoms as tobacco (Yale School of Medicine)
Marijuana Smoke Contains Higher Levels Of Certain Toxins Than Tobacco Smoke (American Chemical Society)
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers (Respirology Journal)
Marijuana Smoking Increases Risk Of COPD For Tobacco Smokers (Canadian Medical Association Journal)
Marijuana Worsens COPD Symptoms In Current Cigarette Smokers (American Thoracic Society)
Research Confirms Adverse Effects of Cannabis on Respiratory Health (University of Otago)
Smoking One Joint is Equivalent to 20 Cigarettes (Medical Research Institute of New Zealand)

Obesity:
Binge eating, overeating may be associated with initiating use of marijuana, other drugs (Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine Journal)
Machinery Of The 'Marijuana Munchies' (Neuron Journal)

Osteoporosis:
Cannabis use linked to risk of osteoporosis (Nature Medicine)

Pregnancy Complication:
Cannabis during pregnancy endangers fetal brain development (Karolinska Institutet)
Marijuana Use Causes Early Pregnancy Failure (Journal of Clinical Investigation)
Marijuana use could cause tubal pregnancies (Vanderbilt University Medical Center)
Marijuana Use Implicated in Pregnancy Problems (Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center)
Substance use, social stress compromise pregnant women's immune system (Duke University Medical Center)

Sexual Dysfunction:
Abusing Marijuana May Overload System, Inhibit Fertility (University at Buffalo)
Marijuana-Like Compounds May Alter Human Fertility (University at Buffalo)
Researcher connects cannabis use and sexual dysfunction (Queen's University)
Sperm From Marijuana Smokers Move Too Fast Too Early, Impairing Fertility (University at Buffalo)
Sperm size and shape in young men affected by cannabis use (University of Sheffield)

Sleep Disorder:
Marijuana use is associated with impaired sleep quality (American Academy of Sleep Medicine)

Viral Infection:
Marijuana Component Opens The Door For Virus That Causes Kaposi's Sarcoma (American Association for Cancer Research)
Regular Marijuana Use Increases Risk Of Hepatitis C-related Liver Damage (American Gastroenterological Association)

Vehicle Accidents:
Cannabis almost doubles risk of fatal crashes (British Medical Journal)
Cannabis use doubles chances of vehicle crash (British Medical Journal)
Driving under influence of cannabis more common and riskier than drink driving (University of Otago)
Marijuana use involved in more fatal accidents in Colorado (University of Colorado School of Medicine)
Marijuana use may double the risk of accidents for drivers (Columbia University)
Signs point to sharp rise in drugged driving fatalities (Columbia University)
Study finds cannabis use, dangerous driving behaviors interrelated (University of Montreal)
Teens who use alcohol and marijuana together are at higher risk for unsafe driving (Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs)
The dangers of taking the "high" road: Increased collision risk, skill impairment (Dalhousie University)



Addiction:
Animals Exposed To Marijuana's Active Component Will Self-Administer The Drug (National Institute on Drug Abuse)
Cannabis withdrawal symptoms might have clinical importance (Public Library of Science Journal)
Chronic Marijuana Users Become Aggressive During Withdrawal (Harvard Medical School)
Increase in prevalence of marijuana abuse and dependence (Journal of the American Medical Association)
Marijuana dependence alters the brain's response to drug paraphernalia (University of Texas at Dallas)
Marijuana Withdrawal As Bad As Withdrawal From Cigarettes (Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine)
Marijuana Withdrawal Reported By Teens Seeking Treatment (University of Vermont)
Mothers' Teen Cannabinoid Exposure May Increase Response of Offspring to Opiate Drugs (Tufts University)
Parental exposure to THC Linked to drug addiction, compulsive behavior in unexposed offspring (Mount Sinai Medical Center)
Regular cocaine and cannabis use may trigger addictive behaviours (British Journal of Pharmacology)
Smoking, Drinking, Drugs: The Younger They Start, The Harder It Is To Quit (Center for Advancing Health)
Troubled Teens Risk Rapid Dependence on Marijuana (University of Colorado School of Medicine)

Gateway Drug:
A 'yes' to one drug could become ‘yes’ for other drugs (Prevention Science Journal)
Cannabis linked to use of amphetamines (Addiction Journal)
Brain Studies Tie Marijuana to Other Drugs (Science)
Early marijuana use increases risk of drug and alcohol problems later in life (Washington University School of Medicine)
Illicit Drug Use Starts With Cannabis (University of Otago)
Marijuana use linked to hallucinogen use (Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health)
National Study Shows "Gateway" Drugs Lead to Cocaine Use (Columbia University)
Study suggests cannabis-users may be vulnerable to harder drugs (Mount Sinai School of Medicine)

Legalization:
Decriminalizing pot may land more kids in the ER (American College of Emergency Physicians)
High School Seniors’ Marijuana Use Expected to Increase with Legalization (New York University)
Increase in unintentional marijuana ingestion among children following new drug laws in Colorado (Journal of the American Medical Association Pediatrics)
Legalizing marijuana in California would lower the price of the drug and increase use (RAND Corporation)
Legalizing marijuana in California would not substantially cut cartel revenues (RAND Corporation)

Sociological:
African-American Girls Who Use Marijuana Engage In Riskier Sex, Have Higher STD Rate (Emory University)
Children who smoke cannabis are twice as likely to offend (Queen's University Belfast)
Early Exposure To Drugs, Alcohol Creates Lifetime Of Health Risk (Psychological Science Journal)
Father's incarceration associated with elevated risks of marijuana and other illegal drug use (Bowling Green State University)
First-Year College Students Show High Rate of Cannabis Use Disorders (University of Maryland, College Park)
Future generations could inherit drug and alcohol use (Sam Houston State University)
Malt Liquor Linked To Marijuana Use Among Young Adults (University at Buffalo)
New study finds glamorization of drugs in rap music jumped dramatically over two decades (University of California, Berkeley)
One Of Every Three Popular Songs Contains References To Substance Use (American Public Health Association)
Pot and pop: New research finds stronger link between music and marijuana use among teens (University of Pittsburgh Schools of the Health Sciences)
References To Explicit Substance Use Common In Popular Music (Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine Journal)
Researchers Find Factors That Encourage Cannabis Use Among University Students (Journal of Applied Biobehavioral Research)
Rising Teen Marijuana Use Is Fueled By Change In Attitudes (American Journal of Public Health)
Teens who frequently go out with friends more likely to use marijuana (Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine Journal)



Medical Marijuana Myth - Alzheimer Treatment:
Marijuana ineffective as an Alzheimer’s treatment (University of British Columbia)

Medical Marijuana Myth - Multiple Sclerosis (MS) Treatment:
Active ingredient of cannabis has no effect on the progression of multiple sclerosis (Peninsula College of Medicine and Dentistry)
Added benefit of Cannabis sativa for spasticity due to multiple sclerosis is not proven (Institute for Quality and Efficiency in Health Care)
Cannabis constituent has no effect on MS progression (Plymouth University)
Jury's Still Out on Use of Marijuana Derivative for MS (American Academy of Neurology)
Marijuana Use May Hurt Intellectual Skills in MS Patients (American Academy of Neurology)
No strong evidence to back use of cannabis extract in Multiple Sclerosis (British Medical Journal)
Smoking Marijuana Impairs Cognitive Function in MS Patients (American Academy of Neurology)

Medical Marijuana Myth - Nausea Relief:
Marijuana use associated with cyclic vomiting syndrome in young males (Neurogastroenterology and Motility Journal)
Marijuana use may cause severe cyclic nausea, vomiting, a little-known, but costly effect (American College of Gastroenterology)
Severe Vomiting Sickness With Chronic Cannabis Abuse (World Journal of Gastroenterology)

Medical Marijuana Myth - Pain Relief:
Active ingredients in marijuana found to spread and prolong pain (University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston)
Cannabis 'no better than codeine' for headaches (British Medical Journal)
Doubts on cannabis for pain relief (Flinders Medical Centre)
Endocannabinoids can promote pain (ETH Zurich)
Medical Marijuana Not the Answer for Teens with Chronic Pain, Mayo Clinic Doctors Say (Mayo Clinic)
Oral Cannabis Ineffective In Treating Acute Pain (Journal of Anesthesiology)
Too Much Marijuana Makes Pain Worse, Not Better (University of California, San Diego)

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Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by budsfarm:
 

Best says: "First of all I couldn't read your article, I would have had to set up an account."

 

Me neither.  & yes, me too.

 

Weed says:  "I don't knowo why you couldn't read the article, I have no account and I get it just fine."

 

I don't knowo why either.

 

Normally, I would be offended when someone paints my profession with such a large brush.  But then I stop and consider the source.

 

Have a nice day, Seeweed.

 

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Well, since I did a c&p on the article, I have to assume you stand on the side of keeping mj illegal , for no other reason than to allow cops to seize (steal) peoples houses and cars if they are caught with even small amounts of mj in their car or houses, or as the second article states, if they catch a person carrying cash in any large amounts. (I am not sure what "large amounts" really means)
Is that your position Bud ?


BTW, it was not me that painted that "broad brush" picture, it was the writer of the article .

 

+++

 

You named your topic "Just what I have been saying for years"  followed by "Finally , a news story about the real reason that law enforcement does not want to end the prohibition on marijuana -  it would stop their ability to steal property from people."

 

You wrote that, right?

 

So congrats for "finally" finding someone to agreed with you.  No doubt made your day.

 

And BTW, I did not state my position, but thanks for asking.  It is this:  If you want to change the way the laws are enforced, change the dam law.  Or is it just easier for you to whine?

 

You azzume way to much.

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