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Gay Teens Are Ripped From Their Homes in the Name of God in ‘Kidnapped for Christ’

 

An ungodly amount of homosexual Christian kids are torn violently from their homes and sent to the Dominican Republic in the first official trailer for the ‘Kidnapped for Christ’ documentary, which asserts these are crimes for which somebody must ultimately pay.

The eye-opening Showtime doc, executive produced by ‘N Sync's Lance Bass, shines a harsh light on a Christian behavioral modification program called Escuela Carib. It seemingly hopes to indict the tyrannical religious leaders responsible for destroying so many thousands of lives over the years.

‘Kidnapped for Christ’ won the Audience Award for Best Documentary Feature at 2014 Slamdance Film Festival and premieres on Showtime July 10th.

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Escuela Caribe

Escuela Caribe is a behavior modification facility located in the Dominican Republic [3]

It is a part of New Horizon Youth Ministeries in Marion, Indiana.

It was founded in 1972. The agegroup is youth aged between 14 and 17

In 2012 the ministry was bought by Lifeline Youth & Family Services, Inc. The webpage of the facility was taken down and until further notice this program is considered closed. 

 

More:

http://wiki.fornits.com/index....title=Escuela_Caribe

How about the baker in Colorado who is being forced to attend gay camp or lose his business. 

 

I guess the story would go like this:  A poor meager baker in Colorado has been violently attacked by gay thugs who wish to force him to betray his religous beliefs.  These fiends have ripped apart his business and stomped out his ability to feed his poor starving family. 

 

This story should be a shocker that illuminates the evil that presides in the gay community and the complete lack of tolerance that these horrible people exhibit.  There must truly be thousands more who have suffered under the heavy hand of these thugs!

 

Someone should pay dearly for these horrible crimes against humanity!

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

How about the baker in Colorado who is being forced to attend gay camp or lose his business. 

 

I guess the story would go like this:  A poor meager baker in Colorado has been violently attacked by gay thugs who wish to force him to betray his religous beliefs.  These fiends have ripped apart his business and stomped out his ability to feed his poor starving family. 

 

This story should be a shocker that illuminates the evil that presides in the gay community and the complete lack of tolerance that these horrible people exhibit.  There must truly be thousands more who have suffered under the heavy hand of these thugs!

 

Someone should pay dearly for these horrible crimes against humanity!

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I couldn't find that story. I found this one below, but no mention of him being forced into gay camp, no mention of him being violently attacked by anyone or having his business ripped apart. Do you have a link? This baker violated the law against discrimination, but is still in business and is appealing, and there is no mention of a 'poor starving family'. If that's the case, they must be on assistance, paid for by taxpayers. Would he refuse a portion of that assistance on religious grounds, because those taxpayers are made up of christians that don't believe as he does, or of different denominations, are atheists, or are gay? If they're starving, where are the christians that feel as he does and supports his actions?  Are they saying "let'em eat cake"?

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A Colorado baker who refused to make a cake for a gay couple has been given an ultimatum by a judge; serve gay weddings or face fines.

Administrative law judge Robert N. Spence found Friday that Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Denver, Colo. violated the law when he turned away David Mullins, 29, and Charlie Craig, 33, from his shop last year.

In his written decision, Spence ordered that Phillips "cease and desist from discriminating" against gay couples, or face financial penalties, and cited Colorado state law that prohibits businesses from refusing service based on race, sex, marital status or sexual orientation.

"At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses," Spence wrote. "This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are."

Mullins and Craig married in Massachussets and had originally gone to Masterpiece in July 2012 because they wanted to a cake for their wedding reception in Colorado. When Phillips refused, the pair went to the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission (CCRC) on their behalf.

According to the complaint, Phillips told the couple that the store policy was to deny service to customers who wished to order baked goods for a same-sex wedding, based on his religious beliefs.

Phillips told the men, "I'll make you birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies and brownies, I just don't make cakes for same-sex weddings."

The judge's decision states in its Finding of Facts that Phillips believes creating same-sex wedding cakes would be "displeasing God and acting contrary to the teachings of the Bible."

In concluding that Masterpiece Cakeshop acted unlawfully, a CCRC investigation also showed evidence that Phillips was willing to bake a cake for the "marriage" of a pair of dogs, but not for two women.

"Being denied service by Masterpiece Cakeshop was offensive and dehumanizing especially in the midst of arranging what should be a joyful family celebration," Mullins said in statement. "No one should fear being turned away from a public business because of who they are. We are grateful to have the support of our community and our state, and we hope that today's decision will help ensure that no one else will experience this kind of discrimination again in Colorado."

Nicolle Martin, an attorney for Masterpiece Cakeshop, told The Associated Press that the judge's decision was "reprehensible" and "antithetical to everything America stands for."

"He can't violate his conscience in order to collect a paycheck," Martin said. "If Jack can't make wedding cakes, he can't continue to support his family. And in order to make wedding cakes, Jack must violate his belief system."

Phillips can appeal the judge's order, which is expected to be certified by the Civil Rights Commission next week. Martin said they are currently considering their next move.

ABC News Radio and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge...gs/story?id=21136505

 

 

 

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OK hoob, I've looked and looked and can only come up with this information. He is required to have his staff take classes, or training if you want to call it, on the laws against discrimination. Makes perfect sense, and anyone in business should know those laws and be sure their employees know them. Now this next part is going to be tricky for you to understand, but I will try. He is being told he has to take sensitivity training. This IS NOT in any way gay camp. But, here's the part that will shock you, I do not agree that he should be forced into the sensitivity training, although I do think he could benefit from it, that should be his choice. He should have to take the classes on the laws, although I'm sure by now he knows them by heart, but this will ensure he knows the laws and understands what will happen when he breaks them. What happens after that will be up to him, and he will have no one else to blame.

Best, surely you recognized my post as tongue in cheek.  The wording used in your OP was just as ridculous.

 

However, millions of people across the US  are or have been forced to attend sensitivity training regarding homosexual lifestyle, which is no different than being forced to go to straight training.   Indoctrination goes both ways, no pun intended.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Best, surely you recognized my post as tongue in cheek.  The wording used in your OP was just as ridculous.

 

However, millions of people across the US  are or have been forced to attend sensitivity training regarding homosexual lifestyle, which is no different than being forced to go to straight training.   Indoctrination goes both ways, no pun intended.

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I don't see how the wording in the article is ridiculous. Sensitivity training isn't indoctrination and if a person is set in their way it's pretty much a waste of time. Do you have a link to the proof that millions of people have been forced to attend sensitivity training regarding the homosexual lifestyle, or is that more tongue in cheek? Like it or not, this man broke the law. I think being forced out of your home, kidnapped, taken to a camp somewhere you can't leave, is a bit more than having to go to a class. What law did they break? Being gay is not a crime. How many things do you do that is the law, but you don't like it? You do it anyway because, once more, it's the law. 

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Best, surely you recognized my post as tongue in cheek.  The wording used in your OP was just as ridculous.

 

However, millions of people across the US  are or have been forced to attend sensitivity training regarding homosexual lifestyle, which is no different than being forced to go to straight training.   Indoctrination goes both ways, no pun intended.

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I don't see how the wording in the article is ridiculous. Sensitivity training isn't indoctrination and if a person is set in their way it's pretty much a waste of time. Do you have a link to the proof that millions of people have been forced to attend sensitivity training regarding the homosexual lifestyle, or is that more tongue in cheek? Like it or not, this man broke the law. I think being forced out of your home, kidnapped, taken to a camp somewhere you can't leave, is a bit more than having to go to a class. What law did they break? Being gay is not a crime. How many things do you do that is the law, but you don't like it? You do it anyway because, once more, it's the law. 


Telling someone they have to comply with big gay and attend "sensitivity training" or lose their job is the same as being forced to go to gay camp.  I don't care what you believe, it is being done under duress.  Sodomy was illegal in many states throughout America.  Should we have put gays in prison for breaking that law?  It was the "law" afterall.  Being a Christian is not a crime either.  Discriminating against an immoral act is not racial discrimination.  How many restaurants have you been to that will not serve you if you don't have a shirt or shoes on?  

 

Christianity is not a cult or fringe religion.  The values taught by the Christian Bible are well known and were not created to discriminate against anyone.  Everyone has the same chance to accept Jesus:  black, white, red, yellow, green, or purple.  If you choose to not follow, then you exclude yourself by choice.

The gay choice should not be forced on others to be acceptive of it.  Discrimination against a sin is not a crime.  The baker did the right thing by not giving up his moral beliefs.  Unfortunately, that does not mean he won't be persecuted for it.

The wording in your OP did not look ridiculous to you because you agree with it.  From the other side, it appears as nothing but hyperbole; just like my nearly identical story looked to you.

 

Of course you know there are no sites that give you an exact number of employees that are forced to undergo "gay training".  However, there are enough companies that provide said training that one can make an educated assumption that this type of indoctrination is happening all over the country.  Simply google "sensitivity training" and see for yourself.

So, spreading the untruth that the man will lose his ability to feed his starving family, when in fact his business is as good or better than ever, or telling the untruth that he and other people are forced to go to gay camp when it's no such thing, is christian? Got it. I know what sensitivity training is, and it's not gay camp. I think I posted I didn't think he should be forced to go. I also said it would be a waste of time because he is set in his ways. And as I don't think he should be forced to attend classes, I don't think the others should have been taken by force and sent away. That was much more than attending classes.

You know hoob, the way i look at it, I wouldn't want to do business with the man, and I'll bet not many, if any, more gay couples will ask him. There are way to many places that would take their business and treat them like humans, they just had the bad luck of walking into his shop. I don't believe anyone will try to force him to bake for them or set out to ruin him either. I think this was to show him you can't discriminate and get away with it, that there consequences for breaking the law. So, from now on, if it takes paying a fine here or there, I'm sure he's willing to pay it to get to keep discriminating against people. It's funny to see this type 'take a stand'. He's been in business for over 40 years, and there's no telling how many gay people, not to mention really unsavory or evil people, who have bought his cakes. I wonder if he frets about that too, him being so holy and all.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

So, spreading the untruth that the man will lose his ability to feed his starving family, when in fact his business is as good or better than ever, or telling the untruth that he and other people are forced to go to gay camp when it's no such thing, is christian? Got it. I know what sensitivity training is, and it's not gay camp. I think I posted I didn't think he should be forced to go. I also said it would be a waste of time because he is set in his ways. And as I don't think he should be forced to attend classes, I don't think the others should have been taken by force and sent away. That was much more than attending classes.


Whoa there Sally, slow yer roll.  Sensitivity training is gay indoctrination.  Gay camp, gay brainwashing, gay whatever you want to call it, it's all the same.  No spin or allegations that you can come up can change that fact.  Imagine you own a business and to stay in business a judge requires you to attend church.  How do you like those apples?

 

I'm not agreeing with forcing people to go to straight camp or whatever you choose to call it.  Sin is a choice and you will be held accountible for it one day by a higher authority than the Supreme Court.  But if you are going to print these sensationalist stories of what supposed "Christians" are doing, don't get upset when I post what your side is doing.

The baker has already stated he will gladly make a cake, pastry, pie,.. etc. for any gay person.  He will not, however, make a cake that depicts anything gay marriage.  Exactly how is he discriminating in this case.   If you were a baker and I asked you to make me a cake depicting beastiality, would you stand by your morals and decline or would you just rather have the money.

Sensitivity training, also known as diversity training, is a type of program designed to help facilitate respect between groups that include people with different genders, religions, ages, races, or sexual orientations. The exact procedures can vary depending on the leader of the training, but typically involve lectures, discussions, and exercises to help participants understand and respect one another. The training can be implemented anywhere, but tends to be most common in workplaces and educational environments.

 

Discussion between participants is usually one of the main focuses of training. Sensitivity training often begins with an instructor asking participants to bring up any issues of concern that they face in the work or school environment. The instructor generally encourages participants to give their perspectives and work together as a team to come up with alternative ways to deal with conflicts and to better communicate with one another. Participants may also perform role-playing exercises, in which the instructor comes up with various conflict scenarios and has them act out the most effective ways to handle various situations with different types of people without tension.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Sensitivity training, also known as diversity training, is a type of program designed to help facilitate respect between groups that include people with different genders, religions, ages, races, or sexual orientations. The exact procedures can vary depending on the leader of the training, but typically involve lectures, discussions, and exercises to help participants understand and respect one another. The training can be implemented anywhere, but tends to be most common in workplaces and educational environments.

 

Discussion between participants is usually one of the main focuses of training. Sensitivity training often begins with an instructor asking participants to bring up any issues of concern that they face in the work or school environment. The instructor generally encourages participants to give their perspectives and work together as a team to come up with alternative ways to deal with conflicts and to better communicate with one another. Participants may also perform role-playing exercises, in which the instructor comes up with various conflict scenarios and has them act out the most effective ways to handle various situations with different types of people without tension.


It can be specific to homosexuality.  I personally know people who have been required to take this type of training or lose their job.  A major national insurance company that a friend worked for to name one.  He had no choice, attend or be fired.  Yep, indoor gay camp.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

The baker has already stated he will gladly make a cake, pastry, pie,.. etc. for any gay person.  He will not, however, make a cake that depicts anything gay marriage.  Exactly how is he discriminating in this case.   If you were a baker and I asked you to make me a cake depicting beastiality, would you stand by your morals and decline or would you just rather have the money.

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Since bestiality truly is a perversion I would take your picture to warn others, and then tell you to take a hike. Bestiality has nothing whatsoever to do with the discussion. This discussion is about human, consenting/able to consent, adults. It's really sad and sickening to see people try to equate one with the other, and you have to wonder how their minds work to even think like that. 

It can be specific to homosexuality.  I personally know people who have been required to take this type of training or lose their job.  A major national insurance company that a friend worked for to name one.  He had no choice, attend or be fired.  Yep, indoor gay camp.

 

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LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make him gay or did he resist? LOL!!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Telling someone they have to comply with big gay and attend "sensitivity training" or lose their job is the same as being forced to go to gay camp.  I don't care what you believe, it is being done under duress.  Sodomy was illegal in many states throughout America.  Should we have put gays in prison for breaking that law?  It was the "law" afterall.  Being a Christian is not a crime either.  Discriminating against an immoral act is not racial discrimination.  How many restaurants have you been to that will not serve you if you don't have a shirt or shoes on?  

 

Christianity is not a cult or fringe religion.  The values taught by the Christian Bible are well known and were not created to discriminate against anyone.  Everyone has the same chance to accept Jesus:  black, white, red, yellow, green, or purple.  If you choose to not follow, then you exclude yourself by choice.

The gay choice should not be forced on others to be acceptive of it.  Discrimination against a sin is not a crime.  The baker did the right thing by not giving up his moral beliefs.  Unfortunately, that does not mean he won't be persecuted for it.

Best,
I think we've found Bill's follower.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

It can be specific to homosexuality.  I personally know people who have been required to take this type of training or lose their job.  A major national insurance company that a friend worked for to name one.  He had no choice, attend or be fired.  Yep, indoor gay camp.

 

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LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make him gay or did he resist? LOL!!


Would going to church make you a Christian?

Originally Posted by Aeneas:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Telling someone they have to comply with big gay and attend "sensitivity training" or lose their job is the same as being forced to go to gay camp.  I don't care what you believe, it is being done under duress.  Sodomy was illegal in many states throughout America.  Should we have put gays in prison for breaking that law?  It was the "law" afterall.  Being a Christian is not a crime either.  Discriminating against an immoral act is not racial discrimination.  How many restaurants have you been to that will not serve you if you don't have a shirt or shoes on?  

 

Christianity is not a cult or fringe religion.  The values taught by the Christian Bible are well known and were not created to discriminate against anyone.  Everyone has the same chance to accept Jesus:  black, white, red, yellow, green, or purple.  If you choose to not follow, then you exclude yourself by choice.

The gay choice should not be forced on others to be acceptive of it.  Discrimination against a sin is not a crime.  The baker did the right thing by not giving up his moral beliefs.  Unfortunately, that does not mean he won't be persecuted for it.

Best,
I think we've found Bill's follower.


I think you're not capable of original thought.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

It can be specific to homosexuality.  I personally know people who have been required to take this type of training or lose their job.  A major national insurance company that a friend worked for to name one.  He had no choice, attend or be fired.  Yep, indoor gay camp.

 

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LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make him gay or did he resist? LOL!!


And to your original post:

LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make them straight or did they resist? LOL!!

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by Aeneas:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:

Telling someone they have to comply with big gay and attend "sensitivity training" or lose their job is the same as being forced to go to gay camp.  I don't care what you believe, it is being done under duress.  Sodomy was illegal in many states throughout America.  Should we have put gays in prison for breaking that law?  It was the "law" afterall.  Being a Christian is not a crime either.  Discriminating against an immoral act is not racial discrimination.  How many restaurants have you been to that will not serve you if you don't have a shirt or shoes on?  

 

Christianity is not a cult or fringe religion.  The values taught by the Christian Bible are well known and were not created to discriminate against anyone.  Everyone has the same chance to accept Jesus:  black, white, red, yellow, green, or purple.  If you choose to not follow, then you exclude yourself by choice.

The gay choice should not be forced on others to be acceptive of it.  Discrimination against a sin is not a crime.  The baker did the right thing by not giving up his moral beliefs.  Unfortunately, that does not mean he won't be persecuted for it.

Best,
I think we've found Bill's follower.


I think you're not capable of original thought.

You mean there's actually a consensus that you're Bill's follower?

No one told me.

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

It can be specific to homosexuality.  I personally know people who have been required to take this type of training or lose their job.  A major national insurance company that a friend worked for to name one.  He had no choice, attend or be fired.  Yep, indoor gay camp.

 

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LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make him gay or did he resist? LOL!!


And to your original post:

LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make them straight or did they resist? LOL!!

Resist which, going straight--or being shipped out of the country against their will?

Or did I miss the part where that Colorado baker was sent to some third-world country for his sensitivity training?

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Originally Posted by Aeneas:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

It can be specific to homosexuality.  I personally know people who have been required to take this type of training or lose their job.  A major national insurance company that a friend worked for to name one.  He had no choice, attend or be fired.  Yep, indoor gay camp.

 

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LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make him gay or did he resist? LOL!!


And to your original post:

LOL! Well, if that was true I'd say I know a few that should have to attend. Did it make them straight or did they resist? LOL!!

Resist which, going straight--or being shipped out of the country against their will?

Or did I miss the part where that Colorado baker was sent to some third-world country for his sensitivity training?


Aeneas, your out of your league.  Put down the computer and go back to watching the purple dinosaur.

Kind of hard to weed out your post hoob. Are you asking if being kidnapped and taken away made the teens straight? If so, I'd say of course not. Being gay or straight is nothing that can be "fixed" and there's no reason to try to do so. As for sensitivity classes, as aeneas posted:

 

Or did I miss the part where that Colorado baker was(my addition would be kidnapped) and sent to some third-world country for his sensitivity training?

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Originally Posted by David L.:

I find it sad that people have to attend training just to treat others with respect!

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I don't think it works. There may be a few that it's worked on, but they are few and far between. I don't think you can change a person's mind if they are not receptive to change. That's why I don't believe in trying to force people to do things like sensitivity training. Just making sure they know the laws, and consequences of breaking those laws, is about all anyone can do.

quote:   Originally Posted by INVICTUS:

I would think billie, the Holland Baptist liar would be in sensitivity training classes, The mandatory type. billie should on a sodium pentothal diet daily.

Hi all,

 

Since I have not posted in this discussion at all -- this post from Vic took me a wee bit by surprise.

 

Do you think Vic is in LOVE WITH ME -- and that is why he will post about me; even when I am not around, not even in the discussion?  Isn't that sweet? 

 

Vic, while I consider you a Friend -- sorry, old boy, YOU are just not my type

 

I am happily married!  And, even before I was so happily married -- I only had an attraction to the female of our species.   I do believe YOU are "looking for love in all the wrong places!"

 

But, good luck!   May the wind always be in your sails.

 

Bless your little heart!

 

Bill

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