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Of course, Limbaugh is the same guy who said all people who abuse drugs should be locked away, no questions asked.  Then when his lardbutt was caught with a drug problem, he sought "help."   Being such a hardliner and such a man of conviction, I would have thought he would just have volunteered to serve an indefinite jail stay.

Limbaugh got caught up with a legal substance which he got help for. I know several people in this same category. At least he didn’t do an illegal drug like our POTUS. So now get back to the subject of the media and democrats insulting our intelligence instead of trying to paint Rush as a drug addict (when he isn’t) every time his name comes up.

Rush was a drug addict.   He admitted as much.   He was addicted to prescription meds and was, by his own account, abusing them.   

 

It does not surprise me that you two would look up to such a brilliant man.   A man with the aforementioned stance on drugs, the man who rails about the sanctity of marriage but has been married at least four times, a man who blatantly poked fun at Michael J. Fox, a parkinsons patient.   Rush Limbaugh has no value to society.   He is a blowhard who wouldn't know a fact if it hit him in the face.   It is a shame that any sentient being would be desperate enough to listen to anything he had to say.

What MO meant, and again you know this and are being intellectually dishonest, was that it was the first time in a long time she felt proud of the country.  Can't say I blame her.   We were just coming out of 8 years of war-mongering Bush. 

 

And nah Jobe, he isn't right.  And to the point of you saying he wasn't a drug addict.   Per his own words;

 

"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life," the conservative commentator said in a statement on his nationally syndicated radio show.

 

"I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication."

Ok best, here we go again.   Just as I asked you yesterday to show me an example of Obama's racist writings and you couldn't.    I will now ask you to show me a drug addict, that has knowingly been an active drug addict, whom has held office and been revered by the Democratic Party.

 

The floor is yours.

When Marion Barry was elected, there was no knowledge of drug use -- at least not with the general public or those whom weren't his close friends.   And after he was caught and convicted, he served a jail term and did not immediately seek reelection.   He then, under the assumption he was clean and served his debt to society, ran for office again and was elected.  Nothing wrong with that.  

 

I personally do not like Marion Barry, nor have I ever liked him.  But when his drug use came to light, he was hardly championed in the Democratic Party.   In fact, he was a black eye so to speak on the party and was treated as such until he served his prison term and appeared rehabilitated.

 

Rush has every right to a second chance as well, just ironic considering his past comments about drug users.

LOL You are seriously going to bring up Clinton and Obama who have admitted to smoking pot as college students.   Well Best, let me introduce you to about 90% of the population.   I mean really?  Things they did in college, years before they ran for public office.   Wow you are certainly grasping for straws now.

 

And Ted Kennedy definitely drank his fair share, as have numerous members from both parties.  

No thanks, not interested. There are sites out there that have just as many if not more democrats that were arrested or caught drunk. It goes on all over, and at least limbaugh isn't holding political office. I wouldn't vote for him, but not because of his past prescription drug abuse. And why you should care is beyond me when you have so many in your own party addicted to illegal drugs and alcohol. 

Originally Posted by Jobe:
Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

What MO meant, and again you know this and are being intellectually dishonest, was that it was the first time in a long time she felt proud of the country.    

 

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What MO meant? You’re reaching for straws. She meant it in the most racist way.

 

The first time in her life doesn’t mean first time in a long time. Keep spinning………. we know better.

 

Monkey, I've been listening to Rush since '91, never once remember him "railing about the sanctity of marriage".  As for Fox, Rush simply stated his oppinion that he thought Fox intentionally skipped taking his meds or was acting for effect.

I love how Rush exposes the current regime's crooked politics and stupid policies. Keep it up Rush,ditto.

LOL Michelle Obama racist.   I love it.   You wingnuts and your fear of black people, it's almost endearing.

 

Captain here is rush comparing homosexual marriage to pedophilia:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...lized_n_2431805.html & http://www.ibtimes.com/rush-li...y-pedophilia-1004542

 

Here he accuses Obama of leading a war on traditional marriage.   A tradition he isn't exactly helping uphold with his frequent divorces.  http://news.yahoo.com/two-face...riage-180300149.html

 

Here he compares homosexual marriage to that of marrying a dog.  I guess at least in his case, he can marry dog after dog after dog.   http://www.dailykos.com/story/...og-StopRush-Rolls-On

 

Here is a quote from him and it actually came from a political humor website.    The humor being the irony of this fat tub of multiple marriage lard insinuating anyone was attacking traditional marriage anymore than himself.   "We've arrived at a point where the President of the United States is going to lead a war on traditional marriage." –Rush Limbaugh,

 

Any other lies you want to spread while we are at it Captain?   Apparently if you have listened to Rush for that long, you certainly haven't listened closely.

 

And don't be disingenuous Captain --- if you can help it.  Rush didn't simply state his opinion.  He made a mockery of Michael J Fox's symptoms.    And in the long run, made himself a bigger ass and idiot than was once perceived as he had it backwards.    The symptoms MJF was experiencing were side effects of his medicine, not a lack of it.

Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

LOL You are seriously going to bring up Clinton and Obama who have admitted to smoking pot as college students.   Well Best, let me introduce you to about 90% of the population.   I mean really?  Things they did in college, years before they ran for public office.   Wow you are certainly grasping for straws now.

 

And Ted Kennedy definitely drank his fair share, as have numerous members from both parties.  

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To me , what cranks my gears, is the hypocrisy. I smoked weed, took some more illegal drugs , and bed jumped back in the day, and still take a drink or two. What I don't do is criticize others for doing that.

I can't recall Teddy EVER giving a speech on the virtues of sobriety, but I recall, 2 Republican house members who resigned after it was learned that they were impeaching Bill Clinton they themselves were having affairs with those cute little aids, and just yesterday another who went after Clinton on the Monica thing was found to have fathered a child by his mistress while he was slamming Clinton for getting head. 

I recall ole Pappy Bush escalating the "war on drugs" while his own son was snorting coke.

To his credit, I don't recall Bush2 doing any moralizing on issues like that, but I do recall him claiming his Christianity and telling llies which led us into war and the killing (murder) of maybe 10,000 innocient people in Iraq not to mention over 4000 causalities of our own military.

 

It ain't what you do, it's the hypocrisy of looking down your nose and moralizing  at other people for doing what you yourself  are doing.

Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

What MO meant, and again you know this and are being intellectually dishonest, was that it was the first time in a long time she felt proud of the country.  Can't say I blame her.   We were just coming out of 8 years of war-mongering Bush. 

 

Really, I guess thats why the campaign, back in 2008, went on the offensive and pretended the remark never happened (until video / audio) was found.  I would sat that, if you felt like it had been a long time, as you imply, she would have said 'for the first time in a long time.'  

 

For the first time in my life (or adult life) is a pretty strong statement - I think she meant it as she said it and had to back peddle. 

 

Ive been proud of my country for as long as I remember.  I joined the military under Clinton, hated how he ran it as Commander in Chief, but was still proud to be an American and was proud of my country, even if I didnt care for how it was being managed....

 

Nice article in the Chicago Tribune, a small excerpt about Mrs. Obama's go to quote for conservatives.

 

"Meanwhile, what isn't said explicitly by prominent people is often implied. Attempting to prod his guests into saying something negative about Mrs. Obama, Hannity pulled out the old clip of Michelle saying that she was proud of her country for the first time when her husband was running for the Democratic Party's nomination. This has been played and replayed thousands of times and presented as evidence that Mrs.Obama doesn't really love her country, that she wasn't proud of it until her husband was running for president. So what?

 

These perhaps were not the best words for a future first lady, but I have no trouble understanding how she felt in that moment. It may be easy for fortunate whites to say they've always been proud of America, though they're probably lying. It is less easy for someone whose ancestors were slaves, and whose own parents remember when blacks couldn't vote and were lynched for trying in some parts of the country. Given that history, one can forgive a few ill-chosen words uttered in an emotional moment."

Originally Posted by seeweed:

To me , what cranks my gears, is the hypocrisy. I smoked weed, took some more illegal drugs , and bed jumped back in the day, and still take a drink or two. What I don't do is criticize others for doing that.

I can't recall Teddy EVER giving a speech on the virtues of sobriety, but I recall, 2 Republican house members who resigned after it was learned that they were impeaching Bill Clinton they themselves were having affairs with those cute little aids, and just yesterday another who went after Clinton on the Monica thing was found to have fathered a child by his mistress while he was slamming Clinton for getting head. 

I recall ole Pappy Bush escalating the "war on drugs" while his own son was snorting coke.

To his credit, I don't recall Bush2 doing any moralizing on issues like that, but I do recall him claiming his Christianity and telling llies which led us into war and the killing (murder) of maybe 10,000 innocient people in Iraq not to mention over 4000 causalities of our own military.

 

It ain't what you do, it's the hypocrisy of looking down your nose and moralizing  at other people for doing what you yourself  are doing.

i couldn't agree with you more! nice post!

 

 

Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

LOL You are seriously going to bring up Clinton and Obama who have admitted to smoking pot as college students.   Well Best, let me introduce you to about 90% of the population.   I mean really?  Things they did in college, years before they ran for public office.   Wow you are certainly grasping for straws now.

 

And Ted Kennedy definitely drank his fair share, as have numerous members from both parties.  

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To me , what cranks my gears, is the hypocrisy. I smoked weed, took some more illegal drugs , and bed jumped back in the day, and still take a drink or two. What I don't do is criticize others for doing that.

I can't recall Teddy EVER giving a speech on the virtues of sobriety, but I recall, 2 Republican house members who resigned after it was learned that they were impeaching Bill Clinton they themselves were having affairs with those cute little aids, and just yesterday another who went after Clinton on the Monica thing was found to have fathered a child by his mistress while he was slamming Clinton for getting head. 

I recall ole Pappy Bush escalating the "war on drugs" while his own son was snorting coke.

To his credit, I don't recall Bush2 doing any moralizing on issues like that, but I do recall him claiming his Christianity and telling llies which led us into war and the killing (murder) of maybe 10,000 innocient people in Iraq not to mention over 4000 causalities of our own military.

 

It ain't what you do, it's the hypocrisy of looking down your nose and moralizing  at other people for doing what you yourself  are doing.

Is it also hypocrisy when rich liberals say everyone should pay more in taxes and then use offs***e accounts or dock their yachts in different states to avoid taxes on it?

Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

Nice article in the Chicago Tribune, a small excerpt about Mrs. Obama's go to quote for conservatives.

 

"Meanwhile, what isn't said explicitly by prominent people is often implied. Attempting to prod his guests into saying something negative about Mrs. Obama, Hannity pulled out the old clip of Michelle saying that she was proud of her country for the first time when her husband was running for the Democratic Party's nomination. This has been played and replayed thousands of times and presented as evidence that Mrs.Obama doesn't really love her country, that she wasn't proud of it until her husband was running for president. So what?

 

These perhaps were not the best words for a future first lady, but I have no trouble understanding how she felt in that moment. It may be easy for fortunate whites to say they've always been proud of America, though they're probably lying. It is less easy for someone whose ancestors were slaves, and whose own parents remember when blacks couldn't vote and were lynched for trying in some parts of the country. Given that history, one can forgive a few ill-chosen words uttered in an emotional moment."

Ohh wow, right to the race card.  Imagine that from an Chicago newspaper.  

 

So, did she mis-speak or did she say what she meant and we forgive her because of past transgressions as a country?

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by seeweed:

To me , what cranks my gears, is the hypocrisy. I smoked weed, took some more illegal drugs , and bed jumped back in the day, and still take a drink or two. What I don't do is criticize others for doing that.

I can't recall Teddy EVER giving a speech on the virtues of sobriety, but I recall, 2 Republican house members who resigned after it was learned that they were impeaching Bill Clinton they themselves were having affairs with those cute little aids, and just yesterday another who went after Clinton on the Monica thing was found to have fathered a child by his mistress while he was slamming Clinton for getting head. 

I recall ole Pappy Bush escalating the "war on drugs" while his own son was snorting coke.

To his credit, I don't recall Bush2 doing any moralizing on issues like that, but I do recall him claiming his Christianity and telling llies which led us into war and the killing (murder) of maybe 10,000 innocient people in Iraq not to mention over 4000 causalities of our own military.

 

It ain't what you do, it's the hypocrisy of looking down your nose and moralizing  at other people for doing what you yourself  are doing.

i couldn't agree with you more! nice post!

 

 

Wow, something I agree with both of you on.  Problem is, that's the trait of a 'politician', not a republican or democrat.  To find anything other than someone like you described is an exception on both sides of the aisle.....

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

LOL You are seriously going to bring up Clinton and Obama who have admitted to smoking pot as college students.   Well Best, let me introduce you to about 90% of the population.   I mean really?  Things they did in college, years before they ran for public office.   Wow you are certainly grasping for straws now.

 

And Ted Kennedy definitely drank his fair share, as have numerous members from both parties.  

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To me , what cranks my gears, is the hypocrisy. I smoked weed, took some more illegal drugs , and bed jumped back in the day, and still take a drink or two. What I don't do is criticize others for doing that.

I can't recall Teddy EVER giving a speech on the virtues of sobriety, but I recall, 2 Republican house members who resigned after it was learned that they were impeaching Bill Clinton they themselves were having affairs with those cute little aids, and just yesterday another who went after Clinton on the Monica thing was found to have fathered a child by his mistress while he was slamming Clinton for getting head. 

I recall ole Pappy Bush escalating the "war on drugs" while his own son was snorting coke.

To his credit, I don't recall Bush2 doing any moralizing on issues like that, but I do recall him claiming his Christianity and telling llies which led us into war and the killing (murder) of maybe 10,000 innocient people in Iraq not to mention over 4000 causalities of our own military.

 

It ain't what you do, it's the hypocrisy of looking down your nose and moralizing  at other people for doing what you yourself  are doing.

Is it also hypocrisy when rich liberals say everyone should pay more in taxes and then use offs***e accounts or dock their yachts in different states to avoid taxes on it?

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YES!... however, why is it called "smart business" when republicans do it?

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

LOL You are seriously going to bring up Clinton and Obama who have admitted to smoking pot as college students.   Well Best, let me introduce you to about 90% of the population.   I mean really?  Things they did in college, years before they ran for public office.   Wow you are certainly grasping for straws now.

 

And Ted Kennedy definitely drank his fair share, as have numerous members from both parties.  

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To me , what cranks my gears, is the hypocrisy. I smoked weed, took some more illegal drugs , and bed jumped back in the day, and still take a drink or two. What I don't do is criticize others for doing that.

I can't recall Teddy EVER giving a speech on the virtues of sobriety, but I recall, 2 Republican house members who resigned after it was learned that they were impeaching Bill Clinton they themselves were having affairs with those cute little aids, and just yesterday another who went after Clinton on the Monica thing was found to have fathered a child by his mistress while he was slamming Clinton for getting head. 

I recall ole Pappy Bush escalating the "war on drugs" while his own son was snorting coke.

To his credit, I don't recall Bush2 doing any moralizing on issues like that, but I do recall him claiming his Christianity and telling llies which led us into war and the killing (murder) of maybe 10,000 innocient people in Iraq not to mention over 4000 causalities of our own military.

 

It ain't what you do, it's the hypocrisy of looking down your nose and moralizing  at other people for doing what you yourself  are doing.

Is it also hypocrisy when rich liberals say everyone should pay more in taxes and then use offs***e accounts or dock their yachts in different states to avoid taxes on it?

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YES!... however, why is it called "smart business" when republicans do it?

I think it's smart business any time you can legally keep govt from taking more of your money. it doesn't matter if you're a dem or repub. 

*I* think what she meant (and it is how I took it at the time), was that she was proud of the American PEOPLE, who had overcome the racist past of this country and were willing to vote for a black man. I never once assumed she meant she wasn't proud of the American ideal. But I am sure that she, just like you me and everybody else, has often NOT been proud of some of the American PEOPLE.

Well James T.  I would say she definitely misspoke, but obviously it is understandable as to why.   It is easy to get caught up in such an exciting moment.   I can't imagine what it must have felt like to have been an African American on that night.   Just 50+ years from segregation, lynchings, jim crow laws, and the police brutality that appeared on national television, and here we are, a black man (here is where best loses her marbles and claims his identification with the black race makes him a racist), is elected to highest office in the land.   So yes, she misspoke and the country's not so distant past probably played a big part in it.   And that is not playing the race card.   That is a simply truth.   One of my best friends is a black lady of her mid to late 50's and the stories she can tell about this area just 45 to 50 years ago will send shivers down any forward thinking individuals spine. 

 

Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

Well James T.  I would say she definitely misspoke, but obviously it is understandable as to why.   It is easy to get caught up in such an exciting moment.   I can't imagine what it must have felt like to have been an African American on that night.   Just 50+ years from segregation, lynchings, jim crow laws, and the police brutality that appeared on national television, and here we are, a black man (here is where best loses her marbles and claims his identification with the black race makes him a racist), is elected to highest office in the land.   So yes, she misspoke and the country's not so distant past probably played a big part in it.   And that is not playing the race card.   That is a simply truth.   One of my best friends is a black lady of her mid to late 50's and the stories she can tell about this area just 45 to 50 years ago will send shivers down any forward thinking individuals spine. 

 

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I'm a white man and I can tell some pretty sad stories that I remember happening back in the 50 and even in the 60s

Originally Posted by Jobe:

Limbaugh got caught up with a legal substance which he got help for. I know several people in this same category. At least he didn’t do an illegal drug like our POTUS. So now get back to the subject of the media and democrats insulting our intelligence instead of trying to paint Rush as a drug addict (when he isn’t) every time his name comes up.

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You could not be more wrong.  Limbaugh did, in fact, "do an illegal drug."  It was illegal for him to possess and use such quantities of drugs as he fraudulenty obtained in quantities that were not legal to possess.   Why do you think legal charges were brought against the varmint? "Left wing conspiracy"??!!

Originally Posted by MonkeysUncleByMarriage:

Well James T.  I would say she definitely misspoke, but obviously it is understandable as to why.   It is easy to get caught up in such an exciting moment.   I can't imagine what it must have felt like to have been an African American on that night.   Just 50+ years from segregation, lynchings, jim crow laws, and the police brutality that appeared on national television, and here we are, a black man (here is where best loses her marbles and claims his identification with the black race makes him a racist), is elected to highest office in the land.   So yes, she misspoke and the country's not so distant past probably played a big part in it.   And that is not playing the race card.   That is a simply truth.   One of my best friends is a black lady of her mid to late 50's and the stories she can tell about this area just 45 to 50 years ago will send shivers down any forward thinking individuals spine. 

 

I didnt say she played the race card.  In fact, I dont think she responded at all - I think that there was eventually a response from the campaign that said that she misspoke after she was hammered for it.

 

I said the Chicago newspaper played the race card.

 

My question was did she misspeak or was there truth to her statement in the fact that she was not proud of our country based on our history?  If so, was she not proud of the USA in regards to any of the progress made over the years in regards to equal rights?  For the first time, she was proud of America -  just because we were voting for a black citizen for president?

 

You are saying she misspoke BUT she had the right to feel that way if she didnt misspeak - am I correct?

 

Personally, I dont believe that she misspoke, but thats just my opinion.  And trust me, its not based on race, Im the furthest from racist as they come.....

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