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Jillette, 56, is not alone in his views. A number of prominent and influential magicians say they connect their magic to their lack of religious beliefs. They've done enough hocus-pocus to understand the lure of religious belief, but their evidence-based view of the world is also why they don't buy it.

 

 

 

"But knowing magic does give you a leg up on how the mind works and how easy it is to be deceived. And from there, skepticism can be a fortunate result."

 

 

"I came to magic because of being a skeptic," he said in an interview. "I think that sharing the truth with other people matters. That's all. It matters for aesthetic purposes, artistic purposes, emotional purposes and I think it matters for morality."

 

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Hi all,

 

We know that so called "magic" is one of two things.  If there were such a thing a true "magic" -- i.e., actual miracles which do not come from God; then it could only come from Satan.  God back and read the story of Moses and Aaron's encounter with Pharaoh's magicians who produced serpents from rods just as Aaron had already done.  The result, the serpent produced by God -- ate those produced by Pharaoh's magicians.  

 

We have to assume that all "magic" or "magicians" whom we can know and allow to entertain us -- are just that, entertainment.  That entertainment is all smoke screen, slight of hand (like a pick pocket), and trickery.   Is that a person one should place on a pedestal to be looked up to and followed.  If so, then, that person is displaying very low expectations and goals.  Just a thought.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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By the way, Deep did the Penn Jillette worship "song and dance" several years ago -- until even he was embarrassed by it and slowly slid it back under the rug.   And, since Deep is the senior atheist on the Religion Forum (by seniority) -- we must assume him to be the local leader or pastor. 

 

Jennifer, my Friend, it is always good to follow the guidance of your spiritual leader.  After all, he brought the Religion of Nothing to Forumland.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

By the way, Deep did the Penn Jillette worship "song and dance" several years ago -- until even he was embarrassed by it and slowly slid it back under the rug.   And, since Deep is the senior atheist on the Religion Forum (by seniority) -- we must assume him to be the local leader or pastor.

 

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What's to be embarrassed by penn and teller? I've always liked them. I'd bet good money you liked them too until YOU you found out he was an atheist and got embarrassed. Your pal gb whines all the time that atheists just hate people because they're christians, which btw is bs, but you on the other hand prove that christians hate people only because they're atheists. And whoever deep is would have to speak for himself, I have no idea if he's a local leader or pastor.

 "you on the other hand prove that christians hate people only because they're atheists."

 

Um, once again, Jennifer is contradicting herself. She is on record saying she does NOT lump all Christians together, yet here she is saying that the remarks of ONE Christian "prove" that "Christians hate people only because they are atheists". Muddled thinking, once again.

You really got the attention of the loons with this post Best. All 3 in a row. Must be something in your post that struck a nerve, as gb likes to say.

 

Magicians are usually very analytical, logical, and skeptical thinkers. As Penn said they also hone the craft of fooling the masses and making them think they saw something the really didn't. Makes figuring out religion easy when you finally see the man behind the curtain. Many of us didn't have to become magicians to see through it all though.

 

BW, Penn is not embarrassing. However, you are a thoroughly disgusting and despicable person, who has become an embarrassment to yourself, your family, and all decent people everywhere. The best thing that you can do for the cause of atheism is to stop claiming to be one. We have enough trouble without having you linked with an otherwise noble cause. You need to be a good little Southern lady(sic) and shut up. We have had quite enough of you.
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
BW, Penn is not embarrassing. However, you are a thoroughly disgusting and despicable person, who has become an embarrassment to yourself, your family, and all decent people everywhere. The best thing that you can do for the cause of atheism is to stop claiming to be one. We have enough trouble without having you linked with an otherwise noble cause. You need to be a good little Southern lady(sic) and shut up. We have had quite enough of you.

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Coming from you and the likes of you that is a compliment. Makes me smile. Maybe one day you'll be a good little Southern lady.

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
BW, Penn is not embarrassing. However, you are a thoroughly disgusting and despicable person, who has become an embarrassment to yourself, your family, and all decent people everywhere. The best thing that you can do for the cause of atheism is to stop claiming to be one. We have enough trouble without having you linked with an otherwise noble cause. You need to be a good little Southern lady(sic) and shut up. We have had quite enough of you.

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Hey paper, jammaboy,tiger, do you ever read before you drool?

 

now the truth comes forth:

 

"Sometimes traces of animals and plants from long ago are preserved as part of the rocks of the Earth: most often bones or teeth, but sometimes impressions from leaves, or skin, or even footprints. These fossils teach scientists about life in the distant past. But there are artists and tricksters who create fake fossils"

 

i just have to wonder if penn,teller/ randi are involved here?.

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