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Joseph Underwood,

I don't know these people and really have no opinion about this one way or the other.

In reading your post, I am very impressed with your writing and thoughtful presentation.

You are obviously an intelligent person and I welcome you to the TD forum.

I am sorry for the tragedy that has happened to your friends and hope all turns out well.

 

Rocky

Originally Posted by Joseph Underwood:

The TP thing I'm not sure of. Southerners have a long tradition or conservative views on firearms. Maybe I overstated using the term "most" as a large part of the populace lives in urban areas now, but I will look up the stats. Plus I know full well under the right circumstances a six year old can be educated.  A six or seven year old is not too small to start teaching how to use a rifle, bow and arrow, or any other weapon with proper supervision. One only needs to ensure access to it is only when that supervision is around and proper gun safety is taught. I am sure he's never been convicted of a felony or domestic violence charge. A charge is not a conviction so therefore all your rights remain. I assume he went to court and won the case or the state dropped the charges for lack of evidence. Either way no conviction, no removal of rights as no conviction means your innocent and didn't do what you were accused of. So why couldn't he have a gun? Plus opium is illegal and I take offense as a soldier that you'd put a Constitutionally given right that I and others put their life on the line everyday to ensure for our populace in the same category as narcotics and totally warp the meaning of what was stated. My premise stands that it is just as good a material investment as any other commodity such as gold or silver. A lot more useful too.

I fired my first shot (well supervised, of course) when I was 4. I received my first BB gun when I was 8. My daughter fired her first shot (again, well supervised) when she was 3. Her grandpa bought her her first firearm upon her birth. She 'took possession' of it when she turned 13.

@unclegus

 

sorry but to try and discredit my question of wanting to see the link and blow it off with your Argumentum ad hominem rebuttal is pathetic and easily countered.

 

Definitions according to Merrium-Webster Online Dictionary:

 

1 fool - noun

 

1: a person lacking in judgment or prudence
2: a : a retainer formerly kept in great households to provide casual entertainment and commonly dressed in motley with cap, bells, and bauble
    b : one who is victimized or made to appear foolish : dupe
3: a : a harmlessly deranged person or one lacking in common powers of understanding
    b : one with a marked propensity or fondness for something<a dancing fool> <a fool for candy>
4: a cold dessert of pureed fruit mixed with whipped cream or custard
In the definition of the word you used to try and defame me with above I see only two that might fit this instance of its use. 1:a because it might not have been good judgement or prudence in asking the question. Let us examine this. As someone stated that the moderators advise not using one's real name in this forum, replied that I didn't remember seeing that in the terms of service (TOS) which I did read. I examined this site for a link to the TOS, but could not find it so asked for the link to be posted. It never was so I stated as much. I think this shows very good judgement and prudence as I wanted to make sure it was there and find out the reasoning of the moderators as to why this was so. The only other definition that might fit  is 2:b as you victimized and tried to make me appear foolish by calling me a fool. This reply remedies that. I disregard 3:a off hand as the I obviously am not deranged or lacking in common powers of understanding as evidenced by my writing.
Therefore if my actions so far do not fit the definition of a fool then I can not have acted like a fool. Which discredits your second reply and therefore means that the my premise that you obviously didn't read my previous posts. Also, since you used a tactic of defamation in order to disregard my question which is discourteous and disrespectful, you obviously either a: did not read the TOS as you accused me of or you are blatantly disregarding them which is a clear breech of etiquette on this or any other forum but 4chan and probably a few others I don't know about. To rebut my argument for this with another supporting defamatory remark is a classic example of the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem and therefore makes you this invalid and a mute point to be further ignored.
Thanks for the practice in logical thought. You have only made me stronger. Good day.
 

Trust me Joseph. If there are spelling and grammatical errors, one of our resident "grammar n-a-z-is" will surely let you know.

 

You can add me to the list of people who wish you and your friends well. If you stay here long enough, you will see that even some of the people you disagree with are pretty good folks. There are people here that I have disagreed with on many topics, yet I consider them friends. I have received encouragement and advice from people here that I have disagreed with often. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I do not have respect for them. Well, except one guy, and he is universally despised.

LOL Who REXUBU the FNORDIANSLIP?

 

I'm not disagreeing with the fact something happened and it appears bad. He is close to me, but I keep an open mind as I don't know all the facts. I do take his word though until given good reason not to as I know him closely. It's just the fact I am sworn to fight and protect everyone's rights. I don't mind people speaking their mind, I just hate when its not educated cause they don't take the time to research before the talk. I also hate seeing something so public be used in such a way as to defame someone and likely when a jury is picked lead it to be biased. I also am sworn to fight that everyone has a fair shake. Gets good forensics in an investigation of them. Gets a fair trial. I'd do the same for anyone on here. It's my job. But I'm gong to especially do it for him as I know him and because of what he's already been through. That's just human nature. Say what you want as long as you are respectful of his rights and the people involved

 

Plus I'm not judging anyone here just rationally replying to comments. I don't know anyone here IRL but the ones I do. How could i judge based on what is in this short forum. I will defend my self though and I reserve the right to judge and individual post as discourteous or disrespectful.

Joseph, you can be sure they'll get a jury if it comes to that. They've gotten plenty of juries locally even for Kristie Scott in Russellville. Will it come to that? The wife is getting better, if she can talk and he's innocent won't she say so?

Traci, are you his sister or her sister? You've claimed to be both. Things like that are why many of us don't set much in store by new posters who come on here claiming to know the real story. From reading Mr. Underwood, I understand the child has been in foster care for a while. No? Usually there's family to take the child. Not here?

Originally Posted by Trutooit-II:

Joseph, you can be sure they'll get a jury if it comes to that. They've gotten plenty of juries locally even for Kristie Scott in Russellville. Will it come to that? The wife is getting better, if she can talk and he's innocent won't she say so?

Traci, are you his sister or her sister? You've claimed to be both. Things like that are why many of us don't set much in store by new posters who come on here claiming to know the real story. From reading Mr. Underwood, I understand the child has been in foster care for a while. No? Usually there's family to take the child. Not here?

I am Tommy sister. She is my sister in law, but i still consider her my sister just to answer your question.  After 11 or 12 years it really doesn't matter.  She is a part of the family in every word since.  As far as their son yes he is with family, I will not say who because it really doesn't matter.  He still saw his parents daily.

Originally Posted by Trilla Nicole Emerson:

only 3 ppl no what happened in there house, uncle tommy, aunt tanya and the father, so shut yalls mouths

The o in only should be capitalized. People is spelled p e o p l e, not ppl. Happened in  there[sic] (their) house is a grammatical disaster. The T in Tommy and the T in Tanya should also be capitalized. A comma should appear after the word so. The regional term Y'alls should include an apostrophe either here y'alls or here ya'lls. I have seen it both ways. The phrase shut y'alls mouths is rude and will get you nowhere on this forum, and technically our mouths are not in play here. We are typing. If you want to get "snippy", do it right.

Confusing.  If he didn't shoot her why doesn't she say what happened? Couple of points-ask anyone that works with abused women and they will tell you that it is not unusual for an abused women to "hug and kiss" on her abuser, or stay with him. Drugs, guns, domestic violence-yep, they sound like a couple of peaches. Loaded guns in a house with a child, sheesh.

Jennifer, they did not have the child. The child was in protective custody with DHR due to their drug trafficking arrests. Apparently, the wife has talked and accused the husband according to what has been said here.

 

My mother was a great stickler for the social graces. I fail at them many times, but I certainly remember her idea of baseness was to say "shut your mouth." It creates neither respect nor credibility for the speaker.

I have absolutely no opinion on the people in this story as I don't know any of them.  On the subject of guns, however, I do have an opinion.  I live alone and have three guns and an air rifle in my house.  I don't collect them.  I just like them.  I like to shoot them, plus I keep rat shot in one in case I run across a snake.  I also have plenty of ammo in the house.  I learned to shoot a rifle as a kid.

 

The simple act of having guns in the house really doesn't have real meaning in this story to me. 

I got a tattoo back in 2003 done by Tommy. I did not like him because he was a smart a55 and just a jerk to be around. I had to get that tattoo redone, actually I think either Adam or his brother redone it for me. I have 3 tattoos all from the place he was employed in 2003. When I went back to get it redone it had faded(in 3 months) they remembered me and my picture was in their book. I also told them he was too rough and a jerk. They apologized and told me they had several complaints on him and he no longer worked there. Then they redone my tattoo.

       Adam, I really like you, your brother, and the owner of the business but I am just wondering why would you talk negative about him at that time yet come here and defend him? Like I said I have lots of respect for WCT that's the only place I'd get a tattoo at but why do you seem to contradict yourself? Just wondering.

    Also Mr. Underwood I would just like to say THANK YOU for serving our country and to all the parties involved I hope you all find peace in such a trying time. The way that I am though If I didn't like you then than I'm not going to like you when such and such happens, with that being said....Tommy is a JERK!!!!!!

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