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Originally Posted by Zazu:

I am not defensive. You assume I am Christian,  I am not.  I am agnostic.

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I gave up religion a long time ago. Does God exist? I'm not 100% positive, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that He does. So when I first mentioned being Agnostic, I got a sermon from Bill Gray. You can expect one about the hazards of being one of those dirty ole Agnostic's. I get the impression you can handle it, but I just wanted to warn you.

"Miami Face-Eater loved god-always read the bible...."

 

I'm reminded of how many 'attaboys' it takes to become a local hero and a legend.

If I remember correctly, it was in the neighborhood of one thousand.

 

However (there's always a 'however'), ONE 'aws#!t' wipes the slate clean and ya hafta start all over again from scratch.

 

Ol' MFE committed one helluva 'aws#!t.'

 

I do hope christians don't use him as an example.

 

**Side note-The spell-check is apoplectic atm. I love yankin' that thing's chain.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Zazu:

I am not defensive. You assume I am Christian,  I am not.  I am agnostic.

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I gave up religion a long time ago. Does God exist? I'm not 100% positive, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that He does. So when I first mentioned being Agnostic, I got a sermon from Bill Gray. You can expect one about the hazards of being one of those dirty ole Agnostic's. I get the impression you can handle it, but I just wanted to warn you.

I welcome any one who wants to give me a sermon.  I might learn something. But thanks for the warning.  So far, Mr Gray and i have not had any problems in discussions.

 

From the definition of agnosticism, I am of the 'strict sense' definition. I cannot justify a belief that deities do or do not exist.

 

 

From Wiki

In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify the belief that deities either do or do not exist. Within agnosticism there are agnostic atheists (who do not believe any deity exists, but do not deny it as a possibility) and agnostic theists (who believe a deity exists but do not claim it as personal knowledge).

Originally Posted by Zazu:

 

From the definition of agnosticism, I am of the 'strict sense' definition. I cannot justify a belief that deities do or do not exist.

 

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Ah, Zazu, Zazu, Zazu.................my friend, you have gone and done it now.  Bill will label you a "fence sitter", and shortly tell you how wrong you are, how you aren't a Christian (even if you don't claim to be one), and that you are going to hell.

 

I'm going to go ahead and punch your ticket for that particular train, just to save us all a little time.  You're welcome.

LOL................

 

A 'fence sitter' requires an indecision for believing or not believing in a deity.  I am not undecided.  I do not have enough evidence to make a decision. 

 

I am not a Christian and I may go to Hell, if it exist, but that won't be known until I die, at which point, if it does exists, I can do nothing about it and if it doesn't exist I will never know.

 

But thank you for the ticket.  I do love trains.

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by A. Robustus:

I only point this out in reference to those Christians who ask us atheists, how we manage to know right from wrong and keep from committing horrors without the Bible and belief in their god. Just sayin'.

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The "Christians" that say/ask those things are to be pitied.

 

 

 

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Yeah, I figure they don't know any better than they were programmed to know.

I can appreciate the christians that ask that question of me and then actually listen to the answer and learn something..

Most don't.  They simply can't comprehend anyone having a moral compass without gawd. It's all most of 'em know.

 

 

 

---Z#$%&*in' zipperheads....

 

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 I couldn't imagine learning anything from you.

 

Originally Posted by Extra-260:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by A. Robustus:

I only point this out in reference to those Christians who ask us atheists, how we manage to know right from wrong and keep from committing horrors without the Bible and belief in their god. Just sayin'.

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The "Christians" that say/ask those things are to be pitied.

 

 

 

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Yeah, I figure they don't know any better than they were programmed to know.

I can appreciate the christians that ask that question of me and then actually listen to the answer and learn something..

Most don't.  They simply can't comprehend anyone having a moral compass without gawd. It's all most of 'em know.

 

 

 

---Z#$%&*in' zipperheads....

 

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 I couldn't imagine learning anything from you.

 

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Lulz.

 

I couldn't imagine you learning anything from anybody. Once cement hardens, it's kinda like that.

Now, why don't you take your issue of Mangina Monthly back to Starbucks. I'm sure the the turtleneck crowd misses you.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:

Let's remember some notable atheists- Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, etc. Don't know if any of them ever chewed anyone's face off, but they sure murdered a lot of people. 

 

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Have you read all the slaughter ordered by your god? Read the bible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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