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Scary words from a Baptist politician:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

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I yam what I yam and that's all I yam--but it is enough!

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Why is it wrong for a islamic nation to have an islamic government but it is right for a christian nation to have a christian government?

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Because while there *are* christians in this nation-we are *not* a 'christian nation'.

 

Have you ever heard of 'religious freedom'?'

Freedom *of* religion -also- means 'freedom *from* religion.

 

That's the beauty of freedom. You don't have to be what somebody tells you to be.

 

Those islamic nations are islamic nations because their beliefs are dictated to them.

Once that happens here-we're no better than they are.

 

Last edited by Road Puppy
Originally Posted by CaptainCrusader:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Why is it wrong for a islamic nation to have an islamic government but it is right for a christian nation to have a christian government?

Christians don't chop off the heads of non-Christians.

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 If you read some of their comments when they get upset at an atheist you'll see they'd love to be able to do that.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

As for violence, read the bible. 

road puppy, I agree with you.  I was throwing that at the right wingers.

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Why the "right wingers"? The left uses religion just as much as the right uses it.

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Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

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You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

 

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

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You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

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The theocratic sector of the right wing does far more than "mention religion." And pray tell,  who is saying that "the right can't mention religion"?  The right is replete with representatives who mention religion all the time.   You need to get yourself better educated on where these theocrats are coming from.  Surely you do not consider Huckabee's ideology, below, as simply some kind of "mention" of religion!

 

From the arch-theocrat of Fox News:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

 

Are you ready, Best, for Huckabee's Constitutional reforms? 

 

Last edited by Contendah
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

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You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

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The theocratic sector of the right wing does far more than "mention religion." And pray tell,  who is saying that "the right can't mention religion"?  The right is replete with representatives who mention religion all the time.   You need to get yourself better educated on where these theocrats are coming from.  Surely you do not consider Huckabee's ideology, below, as simply some kind of "mention" of religion!

 

From the arch-theocrat of Fox News:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

 

Are you ready, Best, for Huckabee's Constitutional reforms? 

 

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No, I'm not ready and I'm not worried either because it won't happen. Again, your views line up more with huckabee's than mine. I say the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them. I don't agree with all that either, but for one side to use religion just as much as the other, yet get a pass on it, is just wrong. I want religion out of politics, and that means both sides using it and one side attacking another for that use needs to stop.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

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You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

___________________________________________________________________

The theocratic sector of the right wing does far more than "mention religion." And pray tell,  who is saying that "the right can't mention religion"?  The right is replete with representatives who mention religion all the time.   You need to get yourself better educated on where these theocrats are coming from.  Surely you do not consider Huckabee's ideology, below, as simply some kind of "mention" of religion!

 

From the arch-theocrat of Fox News:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

 

Are you ready, Best, for Huckabee's Constitutional reforms? 

 

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No, I'm not ready and I'm not worried either because it won't happen. Again, your views line up more with huckabee's than mine. I say the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them. I don't agree with all that either, but for one side to use religion just as much as the other, yet get a pass on it, is just wrong. I want religion out of politics, and that means both sides using it and one side attacking another for that use needs to stop.

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So now you have migrated from your previous all-subsuming assertion that "the right can't mention religion" to the Revised Standard Version of Bestworking, namely that "the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them."   From the absolute to the qualified-- good for you, Best.  And perhaps you will think twice the next time before venturing into that kind of insupportable, dogmatic, and absolutist assertion.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

----------------------

You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

___________________________________________________________________

The theocratic sector of the right wing does far more than "mention religion." And pray tell,  who is saying that "the right can't mention religion"?  The right is replete with representatives who mention religion all the time.   You need to get yourself better educated on where these theocrats are coming from.  Surely you do not consider Huckabee's ideology, below, as simply some kind of "mention" of religion!

 

From the arch-theocrat of Fox News:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

 

Are you ready, Best, for Huckabee's Constitutional reforms? 

 

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No, I'm not ready and I'm not worried either because it won't happen. Again, your views line up more with huckabee's than mine. I say the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them. I don't agree with all that either, but for one side to use religion just as much as the other, yet get a pass on it, is just wrong. I want religion out of politics, and that means both sides using it and one side attacking another for that use needs to stop.

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So now you have migrated from your previous all-subsuming assertion that "the right can't mention religion" to the Revised Standard Version of Bestworking, namely that "the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them."   From the absolute to the qualified-- good for you, Best.  And perhaps you will think twice the next time before venturing into that kind of insupportable, dogmatic, and absolutist assertion.

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Frankly , I don't really give a damm if the right, or the left mentions religion, or anything else, as long as they don't attempt (as Huckabee has tried to do ) in forcing their particular beliefs on our laws in some form of stripping of existing Constitutional rights of citizens.

Our Constitution has only ever had one, and only one amendment that stripped away rights, and that resulted in one of the biggest crime waves in our history.

We don't need any more "thou shalt not" laws.

Leave people and their private lives alone !

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

----------------------

You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

___________________________________________________________________

The theocratic sector of the right wing does far more than "mention religion." And pray tell,  who is saying that "the right can't mention religion"?  The right is replete with representatives who mention religion all the time.   You need to get yourself better educated on where these theocrats are coming from.  Surely you do not consider Huckabee's ideology, below, as simply some kind of "mention" of religion!

 

From the arch-theocrat of Fox News:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

 

Are you ready, Best, for Huckabee's Constitutional reforms? 

 

--------------------------

No, I'm not ready and I'm not worried either because it won't happen. Again, your views line up more with huckabee's than mine. I say the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them. I don't agree with all that either, but for one side to use religion just as much as the other, yet get a pass on it, is just wrong. I want religion out of politics, and that means both sides using it and one side attacking another for that use needs to stop.

___

So now you have migrated from your previous all-subsuming assertion that "the right can't mention religion" to the Revised Standard Version of Bestworking, namely that "the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them."   From the absolute to the qualified-- good for you, Best.  And perhaps you will think twice the next time before venturing into that kind of insupportable, dogmatic, and absolutist assertion.

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I meant what I posted. The right can't mention religion. You pressed, I explained. The left turns into wolves and goes on the attack when anyone on the right mentions religion, yet turn into sheep when the ones on the left do it. You are a perfect example. The republicans that post here catch **** about their views on homosexuality, both from the left and right posters. You post against about homosexuals and not a one on the left calls you on it. AGAIN, your religious views follow along with huckabee's and bill's views. Mine do not.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Maybe because it is the right wingers, such as Huckabee, who are the ones who want to morph the Constitution into a religious dictum.

 

----------------------

You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type. So it's wrong for them but OK for you? Got it. Oh, and the right can't mention religion but pelosi, hillary, jackson, all that bunch can go into churches and tell them how jesus wants them to vote for democrats.

 

 

https://search.yahoo.com/searc...F-8&fr=yfp-t-196

 

___________________________________________________________________

The theocratic sector of the right wing does far more than "mention religion." And pray tell,  who is saying that "the right can't mention religion"?  The right is replete with representatives who mention religion all the time.   You need to get yourself better educated on where these theocrats are coming from.  Surely you do not consider Huckabee's ideology, below, as simply some kind of "mention" of religion!

 

From the arch-theocrat of Fox News:

 

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

 

Are you ready, Best, for Huckabee's Constitutional reforms? 

 

--------------------------

No, I'm not ready and I'm not worried either because it won't happen. Again, your views line up more with huckabee's than mine. I say the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them. I don't agree with all that either, but for one side to use religion just as much as the other, yet get a pass on it, is just wrong. I want religion out of politics, and that means both sides using it and one side attacking another for that use needs to stop.

___

So now you have migrated from your previous all-subsuming assertion that "the right can't mention religion" to the Revised Standard Version of Bestworking, namely that "the right can't mention religion without the wrath of the left falling on them."   From the absolute to the qualified-- good for you, Best.  And perhaps you will think twice the next time before venturing into that kind of insupportable, dogmatic, and absolutist assertion.

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I meant what I posted. The right can't mention religion. You pressed, I explained. The left turns into wolves and goes on the attack when anyone on the right mentions religion, yet turn into sheep when the ones on the left do it. You are a perfect example. The republicans that post here catch **** about their views on homosexuality, both from the left and right posters. You post against about homosexuals and not a one on the left calls you on it. AGAIN, your religious views follow along with huckabee's and bill's views. Mine do not.

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Are you in possession of a dictionary, Best? If so, I encourage you to look up the definition of "can't".

 

As to my views harmonizing with the views of Huckabee and Bill Gray, you must not be paying attention there either.  I find myself a member of the so-called "Cabal" that Bill imagines as a coalition of organized persecutors of him.  The history of this forum is replete with instances where I have strongly disagreed with Bill Gray on numerous religious topics.  As to Huckabee, I share some of his basic religious views and dispute others--most especially his views on church and state. Your ASSertion that  my "religious views follow along with huckabee's" is just a radical and stretch on your part. You erode your credibility with your irresponsible accusations!

Last edited by Contendah
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Not a stretch at all. Plain to see that, as I posted the first time, your views "line up more with huckabee's than mine". Try to muddy the water all you want, you know what I mean and you know it's true. Now, don't you have about six more threads to make about nugent? 

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Best, you alleged above that: "...as I posted the first time, your views "line up more with huckabee's than mine." Your first post on this subject was this: "You know contendah, when you get going on homosexuals you come across just like bill or a huckabee type." Thus you are asserting no more than  that on a particular subject, my views resemble those of Bill or Huckabee. I do not dispute that on that particular topic I hold views very similar to those two persons.  But that does not mean that  in any comprehensive sense my "religious views follow along with huckabee's".  To assert otherwise is just a radical and stretch on your part. You need to cultivate some sense of proportionality and objectivity.

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