we are in debt for trillions. congress passes bill for 1 plus trillion. Plus talk of more money to Ukraine. does anyone think we have already declared war on Russia? we haven't sent people, yet supplies for the fight against them. on top of that we keep spending. where does it stop? how does it stop? every voter should be concerned.
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Coming to the US with his hand held out. Yes, anyone with any sense is concerned and should be, but liberals have no sense and their leaders count on that fact to get us into WW3 with Russia, China, and who knows who else. There is no one that will come to OUR aid when it happens.
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In a video released by his office from the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, Zelenskyy on Monday was handed a Ukrainian flag and alluded to delivering it to U.S. leaders.
“The guys handed over our beautiful Ukrainian flag with their signatures for us to pass on,” Zelenskyy said in the video. “We are not in an easy situation. The enemy is increasing its army, and our people are braver and need more powerful weapons. We will pass it on from the boys to the Congress, to the President of the United States. We are grateful for their support, but it is not enough. It is a hint – it is not enough.”
And Zelensky has come to the US begging again.
No one? Ever heard of NATO?
Whoever drew that image has some weird fetishes. I don't see any attribution.
@Kate Colombo posted:No one? Ever heard of NATO?
What about NATO, Kate? Is Ukraine a member, or are they still banned because of the corruption in their political offices and their dismal human rights record, which neither one has improved?
@Kate Colombo posted:Whoever drew that image has some weird fetishes. I don't see any attribution.
You've posted all sorts of pictures without "attribution". Give it a rest, Kate. You aren't impressing anyone except maybe the low intelligence group of liberals around here. It absolutely depicts the democrat's view of America.
@giftedamateur posted:What about NATO, Kate? Is Ukraine a member, or are they still banned because of the corruption in their political offices and their dismal human rights record, which neither one has improved?
As usual, you have it totally BACKWARDS. A former government official of Ukraine banned that country from joining in 2010. Now that new leaders have been installed, it has become more difficult for Ukraine to join when it's being attacked.
For the reading impaired, the NATO remark was to answer YOUR question as to who would come to the U.S.'s aid. That would be NATO.
@Kate Colombo posted:As usual, you have it totally BACKWARDS. A former government official of Ukraine banned that country from joining in 2010. Now that new leaders have been installed, it has become more difficult for Ukraine to join when it's being attacked.
For the reading impaired, the NATO remark was to answer YOUR question as to who would come to the U.S.'s aid. That would be NATO.
For the "reading impaired" miss snark? Seems that is still you because I can read unimpaired the reasons they were denied. If only you were as smart as you think you are. If only you were as important as you think you are.
No, it would be YOU that has it backwards. As usual with you libs, you tried to twist one little thing with a tiny ring of truth and have it completely overshadow the actual truth. Won't work. They have been barred for exactly the reasons I posted.
This is from the U.S. Dept. of Defence...wait, don't tell us you know more than they do? https://www.defense.gov/News/N...nvasion-austin-says/
Oh, and I'm still not a liberal. I'm a middle of the road citizen who can actually read with understanding and without bias.
Ummmm... the Ukraine has been on track to join NATO for 8-10 years. They have also filed a formal request to join NATO. They , the Ukraine, have NATO enhanced partner status... take that for what it's worth.
@Kate Colombo posted:This is from the U.S. Dept. of Defence...wait, don't tell us you know more than they do? https://www.defense.gov/News/N...nvasion-austin-says/
I got mine from NATO. Of course you think you know more than the ones that explained why they passed up Ukraine.
@Kate Colombo posted:Oh, and I'm still not a liberal. I'm a middle of the road citizen who can actually read with understanding and without bias.
You without bias? That has to be among the most hilarious things you ever claimed! You're real hung up on that lame attempt at insult, " citizen who can actually read with understanding". It's obvious you don't shine in that area and you really need a new mantra. All I hear when you post is poor Fredo.
USA is the biggest supporter of NATO, so exactly who would come to our rescue? We are in debt, which is why so many Americans don't want to be in NATO.
@1130 posted:USA is the biggest supporter of NATO, so exactly who would come to our rescue? We are in debt, which is why so many Americans don't want to be in NATO.
Really? Because American support for NATO is at a 48 year high... with just over 80% of ALL AMERICANS in favor of supporting NATO or increasing our , America's, support of NATO.
Support for maintaining or increasing the US commitment to NATO is bipartisan, with large majorities of Democrats (90%), Independents (78%), and Republicans (75%) in support.
@1130 posted:USA is the biggest supporter of NATO, so exactly who would come to our rescue? We are in debt, which is why so many Americans don't want to be in NATO.
All other countries want from us is money and support for THEIR wars. They would turn their backs on us if we were attacked.
So just where did you read NATO doesn't want Ukraine? I've linked my info, why don't you pony up and do the same?
Oh, and I found your "artist." He's a Mormon called Jon McNaughton who's been dubbed a "meme illustrator." If polygamy is your bag, he's your man.
unicon? really 80%, not sure what that matters. my point is i don't trust them to come to our aide if needed. majority of them can't defend themselves. All they want is our money, as soon as Trump started cutting back, they screamed.
Kate so you don't like him cuz his religion? hmmmm
@1130 posted:unicon? really 80%, not sure what that matters. my point is i don't trust them to come to our aide if needed. majority of them can't defend themselves. All they want is our money, as soon as Trump started cutting back, they screamed.
Kate so you don't like him cuz his religion? hmmmm
Well eve, you claimed 'so many Americans don't want to be in NATO'.... I merely showed you were making up your own facts. I even provided proof.... that's how this is supposed to work.
@Kate Colombo posted:So just where did you read NATO doesn't want Ukraine? I've linked my info, why don't you pony up and do the same?
You want us to think you're so smart but you can't do a simple search, always needing links. Pitiful. I can find anything I'm looking for without being led around by the hand.
@Kate Colombo posted:Oh, and I found your "artist." He's a Mormon called Jon McNaughton who's been dubbed a "meme illustrator." If polygamy is your bag, he's your man.
That info gets you what exactly, Kate? What do you "win"? He's not my artist btw. Are you trying to insinuate he is not a super talented artist? That's sad even for you. Is he a polygamist or are you just displaying the usual liberal bias against Christians? What's your bag Kate? Besides snark that is. You have a bit of a problem.
@giftedamateur posted:You want us to think you're so smart but you can't do a simple search, always needing links. Pitiful. I can find anything I'm looking for without being led around by the hand.
Well, actually, since you made the claim, you're responsible for the proof... that's how all forums work....
Funny how you Republicants never seem to have proof of your claims and ALWAYS post the same 'little rant' when called out on it.
11:30, I don't like any men who abuse women. Check out the truth of Mormonism in case you think women fare well under that religion.
GA, actual links send readers to an author's website where they actually make money from their writing. When you don't post a link, you steal from the creator.
Actually, when you post an entire article, even with a link, you're stealing from the writer/artist. It's surprising the mods allow that here.
@Robot Unicorn posted:Really? Because American support for NATO is at a 48 year high... with just over 80% of ALL AMERICANS in favor of supporting NATO or increasing our , America's, support of NATO.
Support for maintaining or increasing the US commitment to NATO is bipartisan, with large majorities of Democrats (90%), Independents (78%), and Republicans (75%) in support.
a sample of 3100 people is not proof. my comment was many, not most not a percent. we have seen that polls are often wrong. they are a tool for politicians to spend more money
@1130 posted:a sample of 3100 people is not proof. my comment was many, not most not a percent. we have seen that polls are often wrong. they are a tool for politicians to spend more money
Well, eve...Most Americans agree with supporting NATO... ain't democracy wonderful.
@Kate Colombo posted:11:30, I don't like any men who abuse women. Check out the truth of Mormonism in case you think women fare well under that religion.
GA, actual links send readers to an author's website where they actually make money from their writing. When you don't post a link, you steal from the creator.
Actually, when you post an entire article, even with a link, you're stealing from the writer/artist. It's surprising the mods allow that here.
Men abuse women in every religion, and something liberals don't seem to care about, some women abuse men. You liberals have NO problem with Islam, the #1 religion for abuse of women, they even have videos online showing Muslim men the proper way to beat their wives. Do Mormons or any other Christian religion have videos showing the proper way to beat their wives? Plenty of Muslims practice polygamy. Why didn't you answer me when I asked if he was a polygamist or were you just displaying the usual liberal bias against Christians? I know plenty of Mormons and have never seen them mistreat their wives, or know any with more than one wife. I am sure you have whined to the mods. Did you tell them you've been stealing too, since you post pictures and don't show where YOU got them? As I said, I can find what I want without being led by the hand, and I don't trust any site you liberals post, I'd rather do my own research. So, please Kate, get off of it. It's not like you intended to buy anything from McNaughton. You made it clear you didn't care for him because he is obviously a Conservative. You just wanted to know who he was so you could belittle him. The thought of you frantically popping your fingers on the keyboard in search of his name makes me smile, then, eureka, you see he's a Mormon, and you figured you could work with that by belittling the Mormon religion. I guess you're giving Tucker Carlson a rest while you obsess on McNaughton a while. With so many misfits in the "woke" dem clown parade this is who you picked to fret about? You're pitiful, and only looking more ridiculous with every post you make.
The point again, for the reading impaired, is concerning the artist who created the rather dubious work of art you shared, GA. He's a Mormon. He's not a Muslim, Hindu, etc. He's a Mormon, a great number of which practice polygamy and abuse all their "wives."
You cannot find one instance here, or anywhere else, that I have denigrated the Christian religion or any true Christian belief. Polygamy is not a Christian belief, unless you, like Mormons, throw out the adultery clauses in God's Holy Word.
Now awaiting your apology or, barring that, your reason behind your mixed-up review of my posts.
Oh, and Tucky C? It looks like he just got some extremely bad press. I was waiting for someone else to post about it, but I can if you're too tired.
@Kate Colombo posted:The point again, for the reading impaired, is concerning the artist who created the rather dubious work of art you shared, GA. He's a Mormon. He's not a Muslim, Hindu, etc. He's a Mormon, a great number of which practice polygamy and abuse all their "wives."
You cannot find one instance here, or anywhere else, that I have denigrated the Christian religion or any true Christian belief. Polygamy is not a Christian belief, unless you, like Mormons, throw out the adultery clauses in God's Holy Word.
Now awaiting your apology or, barring that, your reason behind your mixed-up review of my posts.
Oh, and Tucky C? It looks like he just got some extremely bad press. I was waiting for someone else to post about it, but I can if you're too tired.
Kate, it is painfully clear that you are the impaired one. Every time I think you can't get more ridiculous you top yourself. Your entire post about McNaughton was intended to denigrate HIS Christian religion, and you liberals do that all the time with Christians. Please put a plastic bag over your head while you wait for me to apologize to you, it won't be coming. I don't owe you an apology and I most certainly will not be giving you one. I don't review your ridiculous posts, I reply to them. Post about Tucker all you want, matters not one wit to me. Maybe it will be cathartic for you and give you a little relief from some of that self-hatred and self-loathing you have to go along with your low self-esteem.
Kate the point actually is you have done the same thing racist, bigots do. You have attacked not for what he did/said but his religion. You lumped into a group rather than discuss his art
11:30, merely pointing out that the artist is an outlier in both the religious and political world. Have you also chastised those on here who have pointed out Mitt Romney's Mormon ties? Or those of Mo Brooks? When misogyny hides behind religion, I will always point it out.
@Kate Colombo posted:11:30, merely pointing out that the artist is an outlier in both the religious and political world. Have you also chastised those on here who have pointed out Mitt Romney's Mormon ties? Or those of Mo Brooks? When misogyny hides behind religion, I will always point it out.
Did YOU point out the things said about Romney, seeing as it was once more you liberals denigrating his religion? Misogyny? That is rich. Have you had this discussion with any Muslims? Let me repeat for the reading impaired, "Men abuse women in every religion, and something liberals don't seem to care about, some women abuse men. You liberals have NO problem with Islam, the #1 religion for abuse of women, they even have videos online showing Muslim men the proper way to beat their wives. Do Mormons or any other Christian religion have videos showing the proper way to beat their wives"?
Now, do you have even one shred of evidence Mormons or any other Christian organization abuses their wives any more than any group of men in any walk of life and political party? Why do you suggest a man being a Mormon equates to him abusing his wife? You should be ashamed, but that would mean you had a moral compass, and you have shown us you don't have one. All you have is hate and innuendos.
Oh, and I found your "artist." He's a Mormon called Jon McNaughton who's been dubbed a "meme illustrator." If polygamy is your bag, he's your man.
Oh, btw Kate, I meant to ask you about the source for your potentially libelous statement about this man. Since you are so big on sources, do YOU have one for your claim that "he's our man" for polygamy? I can't seem to find any confirmation of your claim.
Try Wikimedia, or don't Satanists use that website? What? You're not a Satanist;?Neither am I a liberal.
Here's one for you for free: https://www.sltrib.com/opinion...-to-victimize-women/
Last time Kate, for the reading impaired, I don't click on sites you liberals post. I have already done my own searches and NO WHERE does it say the man is a polygynist. Kate, your neediness is pathetic. So, you admit you libeled the man?
At least I didn't steal his painting.
@Kate Colombo posted:At least I didn't steal his painting.
I didn't steal his painting either, Kate. And, I didn't insinuate that he was a polygynist and a wife beater, like you did.