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The beloved pet of two small children was accidentally let out of it's home Friday, by way of the children. When the parents of the children realized this, they went on a search of the neighborhood. They were then told by the MSPD officer's wife that she had shot the dog. And that after being shot, the dog had wandered off. She was later found dead in the middle of the road.

OK---When did it become legal to discharge a firearm in the city and When did it become legal to shoot a dog?
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Originally posted by UNA LIONS FAN:
The beloved pet of two small children was accidentally let out of it's home Friday, by way of the children. When the parents of the children realized this, they went on a search of the neighborhood. They were then told by the MSPD officer's wife that she had shot the dog. And that after being shot, the dog had wandered off. She was later found dead in the middle of the road.

OK---When did it become legal to discharge a firearm in the city and When did it become legal to shoot a dog?


The right of self defense makes it legal to discharge a firearm in most cities, as well as shooting a dog. The facts of the case, when revealed, will determine if the shooting was or was not justified; hence legal or illegal.
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Originally posted by Tw0PenniesToYa:
I find it hard to believe that the family pet of two small children posed a threat to a grown woman. If it was in self-defense, so be it, I just still find that hard to believe.


You're leaning pretty heavy on the "beloved family pet" statement from the first post, aren't you?

There are regular news reports of children, women and even grown men killed by "beloved family pets". Do a search for "woman killed by dog"...you'll get a long list of links to stories.
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Originally posted by Infomercial:
BTW, if you accidentally shoot a dog critically, aren't you supposed to finish it off instead of letting it suffer. My Dad, raised in ol' Kentucky, told me that. Just asking? This cop feel good married to this woman, does he?


No. Shooting the dog after the attack is negated would not be authorized under the self defense exception to the discharging a firearm in city limits ordinance.

Most spouses feel good about being married to their significant other....don't you?
Dogs, even friendly ones, are unpredictable.

My aunt has a dog who knows me relatively well. The dog was rubbing against me, I was petting her, rubbing her belly and talking to her inside the house.

I had to go outside to move my car and at the same time, my aunt let her outside to do her business. I got out of my car to go back inside the house and the dog started viciously barking at me. I spoke to her thinking once she heard my voice, she would recognize me and back off. She didn't. I backed away from her and managed to get back into my car before she lunged towards me.

They finally called her back inside and that's when I was able to go back into the house. When I saw her inside the house, she was friendly towards me again. No trace of the vicious dog who had just scared the bejebus out of me.

My aunt found it difficult to believe that her dog acted this way towards me. BTW, this dog is a mutt and not a breed one would normally be wary of.

So don't ever underestimate a friendly, beloved family pet and don't judge this lady until you hear her side of the story.
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Originally posted by bubbaluck:
Maybe someone will shoot her. Under the right circumstances that too can be justified.


Do you ever stop to think about how incredibly stupid something sounds before you say it or type it? Because judging from this dumb "a" post, you don't. What a complete lack of regard for a human life. In my opinion, your account should be closed and you be banned from this site forever. What an idiot!
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Originally posted by UNA LIONS FAN:
The beloved pet of two small children was accidentally let out of it's home Friday, by way of the children. When the parents of the children realized this, they went on a search of the neighborhood. They were then told by the MSPD officer's wife that she had shot the dog. And that after being shot, the dog had wandered off. She was later found dead in the middle of the road.

OK---When did it become legal to discharge a firearm in the city and When did it become legal to shoot a dog?


What is the source of this story?
My sister and brother in law had a "beloved family pet" for years. When their daughter was 3, sitting in the floor playing, the dog walked by and out of nowhere bit her on the face. My sister was sitting there with her so its not a case of the child provoked the dog. Just because it is a family pet doesnt mean that it is incapable of being a violent animal.
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Originally posted by UNA LIONS FAN:
The beloved pet of two small children was accidentally let out of it's home Friday, by way of the children. When the parents of the children realized this, they went on a search of the neighborhood. They were then told by the MSPD officer's wife that she had shot the dog. And that after being shot, the dog had wandered off. She was later found dead in the middle of the road.

OK---When did it become legal to discharge a firearm in the city and When did it become legal to shoot a dog?


Let me guess a small good mannered Pit Bull.
Like I implied earlier, why do people think it's okay to shoot a dog only on the grounds that it is a certain breed (yes, I mean a pitbull)? Was it attacking? I didn't see a thing about it if it was. Otherwise, if she was just afraid of it and she had time to go inside for a gun, she should have just kept her butt in there with the door closed. If she already had a gun outside with her, then she apparently saw the dog and came outside with a gun intending to shoot it. Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a firearm.
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
Like I implied earlier, why do people think it's okay to shoot a dog only on the grounds that it is a certain breed (yes, I mean a pitbull)? Was it attacking? I didn't see a thing about it if it was. Otherwise, if she was just afraid of it and she had time to go inside for a gun, she should have just kept her butt in there with the door closed. If she already had a gun outside with her, then she apparently saw the dog and came outside with a gun intending to shoot it. Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a firearm.


Other than this posting, I've not seen anything about the alleged shooting in any publication.

You left out another possibility in your obviously biased scenarios...she was already armed when she was confronted with an attacking dog, and she fired in self defense.

Since no other facts have been reported in this alleged incident, those are just as, if not more probable as any other.
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
Like I implied earlier, why do people think it's okay to shoot a dog only on the grounds that it is a certain breed (yes, I mean a pitbull)? Was it attacking? I didn't see a thing about it if it was. Otherwise, if she was just afraid of it and she had time to go inside for a gun, she should have just kept her butt in there with the door closed. If she already had a gun outside with her, then she apparently saw the dog and came outside with a gun intending to shoot it. Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a firearm.


I have a kid so if I see a pit bull in my yard it dies; end of story.
How would you feel if some physco neighbor had a no trespassing sign and started shooting the kids that came into his yard? Aside from the obvious unjustified action, it wouldn't be fair to the kids who can't even read a sign yet, right? So, to assume all pitbulls are mean is assume all pitbulls know they are mean and deserve to be used as target practice, and they don't because many aren't. Many are loving family pets and I can assure you there are million and millions more that wouldn't chase a cat, much less hurt somebody, than there are means ones.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

Other than this posting, I've not seen anything about the alleged shooting in any publication.



Since no other facts have been reported in this alleged incident, those are just as, if not more probable as any other.


Unfortunately, this may never be public knowledge....I'm sure it will be kept "hidden".
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Originally posted by UNA LIONS FAN:
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

Other than this posting, I've not seen anything about the alleged shooting in any publication.



Since no other facts have been reported in this alleged incident, those are just as, if not more probable as any other.


Unfortunately, this may never be public knowledge....I'm sure it will be kept "hidden".


Why would it be kept "hidden"? Both sides have to agree for that to happen. All it takes is one person contacting the media...since you seem to imply you have inside info, I suggest you give Tom Smith a call.
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
How would you feel if some physco neighbor had a no trespassing sign and started shooting the kids that came into his yard? Aside from the obvious unjustified action, it wouldn't be fair to the kids who can't even read a sign yet, right? So, to assume all pitbulls are mean is assume all pitbulls know they are mean and deserve to be used as target practice, and they don't because many aren't. Many are loving family pets and I can assure you there are million and millions more that wouldn't chase a cat, much less hurt somebody, than there are means ones.


Some attacks are from mistreated pits but most are from a family pet that was a love able would not chase a cat pit until it killed their or a neighbors kid.
The comparisons of some idiot shooting children for coming into his yard and shooting a dog are ridiculous and hold no water to any "dog shooting" situation.

On another note: I have a 75lb Black and Tan Coonhound in my backyard that wouldn't hurt a flea, but I wouldn't be shocked for a minute if he ever got out and went into someone's yard with a 3 or 4 year old that a parent would end him right there. Attacking or not. It would be hard as parent to see a dog that big approach your child and not take some kind of drastic measure. Would I shoot a Coonhound in that situation? Doubtful, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone else did. It would be sad for sure...even if the dog did attack and it was YOUR "beloved pet", if someone had to kill it, you're not going to be happy about it, but it is what it is.

Oh, and after being bitten twice in my LE career by Pitbulls, I don't care what any animal lover says, it would be hard for me not to shoot it if it came in my backyard with my kids there...I'm not worried about if it were just me cause that would just turn out however it turns out, but if my kids are out there...well, more than likely that dog has met it's end.
I agree with dntblnk, I have a lab and I love him, he is protective of us so I cant say he wouldnt bite someone he thought was a threat to us. As much as I love him, if he gets out and someone shoots him in self defense (of themselves or their kids), even it its just perceived (ie he's running at them, which he would do, playfully however), I could not hold them accountable. I would do the same in their shoes to their pet.

However, I would take it a little different if he was shot just for 'being' in someone elses yard. Some folks would walk out and shoot your dog just because he is in their yard.

I guess we'll have to wait for the entire story. Hopefully it was a defense case.

TDR
I can't imagine taking the life of anything. I love animals, I don't kill them. I'll even take a spider outside. However, if a dog was about to attack one of my kids or even one of my animals, I would. I just think anyone who shoots a dog simply because it's walking across their property or looks like/is a pitbull shouldn't have access to a gun at all because they have bad judgement. There is nothing worse than a human being with a gun who has bad judgement.
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
How would you feel if some physco neighbor had a no trespassing sign and started shooting the kids that came into his yard? Aside from the obvious unjustified action, it wouldn't be fair to the kids who can't even read a sign yet, right? So, to assume all pitbulls are mean is assume all pitbulls know they are mean and deserve to be used as target practice, and they don't because many aren't. Many are loving family pets and I can assure you there are million and millions more that wouldn't chase a cat, much less hurt somebody, than there are means ones.


Are you implying that dogs and children are of equal importance?
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
I can't imagine taking the life of anything. I love animals, I don't kill them. I'll even take a spider outside. However, if a dog was about to attack one of my kids or even one of my animals, I would. I just think anyone who shoots a dog simply because it's walking across their property or looks like/is a pitbull shouldn't have access to a gun at all because they have bad judgement. There is nothing worse than a human being with a gun who has bad judgement.


I agree on the defense part. I will kill an animal on the basis of food. However, I will burn a spider down for no reason.
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
How would you feel if some physco neighbor had a no trespassing sign and started shooting the kids that came into his yard? Aside from the obvious unjustified action, it wouldn't be fair to the kids who can't even read a sign yet, right? So, to assume all pitbulls are mean is assume all pitbulls know they are mean and deserve to be used as target practice, and they don't because many aren't. Many are loving family pets and I can assure you there are million and millions more that wouldn't chase a cat, much less hurt somebody, than there are means ones.


Are you implying that dogs and children are of equal importance?


Oh come on, now. Are you serious??? It was a comparison of a scenario, not a comparison of a dog's importance vs a child's importance. Are you planning to dog me about everything I say now or what?
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
I must say, I have never lived anywhere else where people get off this much on shooting things. You all should be glad you live here because I can tell you one thing, there aren't many other places where people could get away it. You'd all be drawn and quartered by the public before the law ever got to you. Seriously.


Like, where are you talking about? Because D.C., Gary, IN, Cincinnati,OH, and L.A. are all pretty efficient at shooting things.
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
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Originally posted by forumaddict2:
How would you feel if some physco neighbor had a no trespassing sign and started shooting the kids that came into his yard? Aside from the obvious unjustified action, it wouldn't be fair to the kids who can't even read a sign yet, right? So, to assume all pitbulls are mean is assume all pitbulls know they are mean and deserve to be used as target practice, and they don't because many aren't. Many are loving family pets and I can assure you there are million and millions more that wouldn't chase a cat, much less hurt somebody, than there are means ones.


Are you implying that dogs and children are of equal importance?


Oh come on, now. Are you serious??? It was a comparison of a scenario, not a comparison of a dog's importance vs a child's importance. Are you planning to dog me about everything I say now or what?


That's why I asked you instead of jumping on you. I wanted to see what you meant. Easy.

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