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Originally posted by Shoals Resident:
So Paw-Paw (or anyone else) what is your solution to ending these wars? Withdraw all troops and walk away? Then what? How do we stop terroism from coming into the US? The cost of these wars is astronomical (monetarily and lives) but I don't see a real solution. I am selfish enough to prefer that they be fought over there rather than here. I haven't heard a good plan for dealing with all of the problems. Have you?
Good grief--that old dead notion coming up again--that if we don't fight
'em in Iraq or Afghanistan, the A-rabs will come swarming over here to our shores to do us damage. Bullfeathers to that nutty notion. They are not inhibited from coming to this country and doing us damage because we decided to go buccaneering away in two backward Islamic countries. They are not getting in and doing damage to us because--
we are told--the astonishingly effective homeland security systems put in place during 8 years of the Bush maladministration have been phenomenally effective! Do you really think those highly-touted, near-miraculous systems would become less effective if we pulled out of those two nations and left it to their the citizens to decide their own fates?
It was the U.S invasion of Iraq IN IRAQ and the U.S invasion of Afghanistan IN AFGHANISTAN that energized the fires of Islamic righteousness in the breasts of Muslims within those nations and those from other Islamic nations who came into Iraq and Afghanistan to defend their Islamic brethren from "western imperialism." If we had stayed home, they would have stayed put. We inspired those Muslims; we produced the cause celebre', the casus belli and they responded predictably.
But they did not commandeer ships or planes and head full speed for our shores. They went to those places on the globe where GWD and DC and DR decided we somehow needed to go to hold back the islamic menace. Then, once we got into Afghanistan and whupped some Taliban butt, and had that particular Islamic menace on the run, we pulled out most of our forces and deployed them to whup up on Saddam and interdict those weapons of mass destruction that never were.
We botched things in both countries and have stayed around botching up things even more, but in the meantime, no A-rabs have been able to do any more mischief on our shores than the hapless Christmas day undies-bombing incompetent who succeeded only in scorching his own crotch! And all this during a time when we have given the 20 million or so of wildly-extremist, America-hating Islamic fanatics as much inspiration as we possibly could to come on and git us if they can!
You can not have it both ways. You can not argue that the puissance of the Bush homeland security program has given this nation a virtually impenetrable and astonishingly effective defense against Islamic terrorism and at the same time argue that we must continue to wage the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to keep these evil devils at bay.