Nothing Comes To Forumland -- An Answer To Deep's Genesis!

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Sorry Bill, I did not know that I had to specify a flavor of Christianity. Silly me, I thought they all followed Christ.

No, only fundamentalists are truly Christians. lol. every one else is new age.
In fact, they have the easiest time in this life- they say "yes" to Christ, and have no accountability, and their sins are invisible, and they are completely invinsible.
Right, Bill? it's like a get out of hell free card.

(by the way, i don't buy it for a second- and I do consider 'once saved always saved' to be false doctrine, heresy and completely contrary to God's Holy Word. downright dangerous).

i went to a youth revival at a "black" church today. the guest speaker was very inspiring and he told those kids just like it is. but, i ber bill would call them new age or liberal because he wouldnt agree with something (anything) that was said during the sermon.

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the way, i don't buy it for a second- and I do consider 'once saved always saved' to be false doctrine, heresy and completely contrary to God's Holy Word. downright dangerous).

Veep I am in complete agreement on this. I fear that hell will be full of people who professed Christ, but followed their own will and not His.

EXACTLY,Max!!

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Originally posted by b50m:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Really, B50, when you reference Christianity, you should be more specific what you mean.

Sorry Bill, I did not know that I had to specify a flavor of Christianity. Silly me, I thought they all followed Christ.

No, B50,

Not all churches, or people, who claim to be Christian -- are Christian. Look at yourself. You declared yourself to be New Age/Christian/Wiccan. Sorry, that is impossible -- for the New Age and Wiccan religions are totally opposite of Christianity. They are totally at the other end of the spectrum. So, no, a person cannot be a practicing New Ager, a practicing Wiccan -- and be a Christian believer. Oil and water do not mix.

There are many cult churches which try to wear the Christian hat -- and, they may talk some of the talk, but, they do not walk the walk. Just because the church is called Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints -- does not make it a Christian church. The Jesus Christ they mean is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible. Their Jesus is a created being, spirit brother of Lucifer (Satan) -- and is not the preexisting God the Son.

Just because the Jehovah's Witnesses have "Jehovah" in their church name -- does not change their status from being a cult church.

So, yes, if you are going to discuss Christianity; you do need to be specific about which churches, which religions, which people you mean.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by vplee123:

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Sorry Bill, I did not know that I had to specify a flavor of Christianity. Silly me, I thought they all followed Christ.

No, only fundamentalists are truly Christians. lol. every one else is new age. In fact, they have the easiest time in this life- they say "yes" to Christ, and have no ccountability, and their sins are invisible, and they are completely invinsible. Right, Bill? it's like a get out of hell free card.

(by the way, i don't buy it for a second- and I do consider 'once saved always saved' to be false doctrine, heresy and completely contrary to God's Holy Word. downright dangerous).

Hi VP,

Your ranting only shows one thing: You have spent more time studying Traditions and Catechisms -- and little time studying the TRUE Word of God, the Bible. Maybe you should put those other books in your closet, get out your Bible, wipe the thick layer of dust from it -- and really get into God's Word.

You will be amazed at the revelations it will give you. Especially about salvation and eternal security.

Or, you can continue to play the ostrich game and hide you head in the sand of the Roman Catholic sand box -- and declare only the Pope right. Whatever!

And, VP, gaining the blessings of the atheists on the Religion Forum -- is not really a blessing!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by tcf531:
i went to a youth revival at a "black" church today. the guest speaker was very inspiring and he told those kids just like it is. but, i ber bill would call them new age or liberal because he wouldnt agree with something (anything) that was said during the sermon.

Hi TCF,

It all depends upon the church and the pastor -- but, not the color of his skin. If he is preaching the Prosperity Gospel, the Social Gospel, the Name It And Claim It Gospel, or any of their offshoots -- you are most likely right that I would not care to hear them.

However if they are someone like the late Rev. E. V. Hill, the pastor of the Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church in Los Angeles -- I would really enjoy hearing them.

Trash talk, regardless of the color of the talker's skin -- is still trash talk -- even if he/she is claiming to be spiritual.

Would I call it New Age or Liberal? Only if it was! If I saw Shirley Maclaine sitting in the audience -- then, I would call it New Age. If I saw Hillary Clinton sitting in the audience, then I would call it Liberal.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Guess he told you VPLEE!
See, he will get ya'll straight.
Also, how about that veiled remark about "their" religion?

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Originally posted by paw-paw:
Guess he told you VPLEE! See, he will get y'all straight. Also, how about that veiled remark about "their" religion?

Hi Paw,

Please show me where, in my last response to VP, that I mentioned anything such as "that veiled remark about 'their' religion?" You are putting words into my writing that I did not write.

Are you being deceitful on purpose -- or, just can't seem to help yourself?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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If he is preaching the Prosperity Gospel, the Social Gospel, the Name It And Claim It Gospel, or any of their offshoots -- you are most likely right that I would not care to hear them.

Is this not part of your post?

Sounded to me like an underhanded shot at "black" churches collectively.

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Originally posted by paw-paw:

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
If he is preaching the Prosperity Gospel, the Social Gospel, the Name It And Claim It Gospel, or any of their offshoots -- you are most likely right that I would not care to hear them.

Is this not part of your post?

Hi Paw,

Yes, and if you will READ IT, you will find that the "their" was referring to offshoots of the previously mentioned forms of theology -- NOT to any religions. And, by the way, that post was written to TCF, not VP.

Paw, please don't be so eager to disagree and condemn -- that you fail to read the post before writing a response.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill.
If YOU would read my post, I said "also". Since my post was made after your bashing of VP and your reply to TCF. I simply was mentioning both your replys together.

Don't try to side-step the issue. You assumed, since the church mentioned was a black church, that they would be teaching some form of religion you were against!

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Hi VP,

Your ranting only shows one thing: You have spent more time studying Traditions and Catechisms -- and little time studying the TRUE Word of God, the Bible. Maybe you should put those other books in your closet, get out your Bible, wipe the thick layer of dust from it -- and really get into God's Word.

You will be amazed at the revelations it will give you. Especially about salvation and eternal security.

Not at all.
As I have told you before, my Bible and my God are the center of my life.
Just because I don't subscribe to your doctrines does not make me any less educated in Scripture than you.
I can (and have) cite many passages which deny "once saved, always saved".
I will not do it again, because this is becoming a "round and round". And you have always ignored those Scriptures.
Don't claim to know ANYTHING about my faith, my devotion to God, or how dusty my Bible may or may not be.
You have no idea about such things.
I think you don't like me because I represent the "other" way...and you will refute anything I say. And when you cannot refute it justly, you will blame catechesis.
That is just wrong on so many levels.
So I will ask you again, do you really think in your heart that you are doing God's work here?
Do you not see a pattern of animosity between you and **Pretty much** everyone on this forum?
You need to start taking responsibility and humble yourself. You might just learn something.

VPLEE
GOOD reply. I'm gonna' sit over here and watch.

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Originally posted by paw-paw:
Bill.
If YOU would read my post, I said "also". Since my post was made after your bashing of VP and your reply to TCF. I simply was mentioning both your replys together.

Don't try to side-step the issue. You assumed, since the church mentioned was a black church, that they would be teaching some form of religion you were against!

Hi Paw,

This is your post:

Originally posted by paw-paw:
Guess he told you VPLEE! See, he will get y'all straight. Also, how about that veiled remark about "their" religion?

Please explain how that "also" is referring to TCF.

Y'all come back now, ya heah?

Bill

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Originally posted by paw-paw:
Sounded to me like an underhanded shot at "black" churches collectively.

Hi Paw,

Would you care to explain that accusation?

Are you saying that all of the Prosperity Gospel, the Social Gospel, the Name It And Claim It Gospel preachers are black?

Not so, my confused Friend, most are not black.

It seems to me that is YOU who is denigrating black pastors and churches. I, for one, have great respect for them. And, as I said earlier, I had very great respect for E. V. Hill; loved to hear him speak. He was a great pastor.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by vplee123:
Do you not see a pattern of animosity between you and **Pretty much** everyone on this forum?

ONLY YOU AND YOUR ATHEIST AND LIBERAL LEFT FRIENDS!

I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

NO, JUST THE FEW LIKE YOU, MY "FISHY" FRIEND -- WHO COME LOOKING FOR A FIGHT! SORRY, CAN'T ACCOMMODATE YOU! GOD BLESS!

I can't believe that Bill has pulled this insane post out of the drawer for the fifth time now.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi VP,

Your ranting only shows one thing: You have spent more time studying Traditions and Catechisms -- and little time studying the TRUE Word of God, the Bible. Maybe you should put those other books in your closet, get out your Bible, wipe the thick layer of dust from it -- and really get into God's Word.

You will be amazed at the revelations it will give you. Especially about salvation and eternal security.

Or, you can continue to play the ostrich game and hide you head in the sand of the Roman Catholic sand box -- and declare only the Pope right. Whatever!

And, VP, gaining the blessings of the atheists on the Religion Forum -- is not really a blessing!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

This is how you express Christian love for VP?


Have a blissed day, Bill.

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

Yep, and Ram is yanking his chain half the time.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

NO, JUST THE FEW LIKE YOU, MY "FISHY" FRIEND -- WHO COME LOOKING FOR A FIGHT! SORRY, CAN'T ACCOMMODATE YOU! GOD BLESS!

A few?

Please name those on this forum that you find are NOT atheist, new age, or liberal. Who is NOT misguided, in your opinion?

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Not all churches, or people, who claim to be Christian -- are Christian. Look at yourself.
and, they may talk some of the talk, but, they do not walk the walk.
Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi VP,
Your ranting only shows one thing: Maybe you should put those other books in your closet, get out your Bible, wipe the thick layer of dust from it -- and really get into God's Word.
You will be amazed at the revelations it will give you.
Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi Paw,
please don't be so eager to disagree and condemn
Bill

Not all people that claim to be Christian are Christian? Go look in the mirror, Bill.
“Christians” like yourself is what give Christians a bad name.

VP ranting??!? If you would wipe that dust off of yours, you would be amazed what you might find in it. You sure wouldn’t find what you’re doing

This is rich!! Bill Gray telling someone not to be so eager to disagree and condemn!!

Paw shouldn’t be so so eager to disagree and condemn???? Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, ain’t it?

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
A few?

Please name those on this forum that you find are NOT atheist, new age, or liberal. Who is NOT misguided, in your opinion?

Don't hold your breath while waiting for an answer, Crusty. He can't name any, except possibly ram.

AW, CHICK! - WE REALLY DO HAVE TO QUIT MEETING LIKE THIS - FOLKS WILL START TO TALK!

I think I just threw up a little into my mouth.

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

Yep, and Ram is yanking his chain half the time.

Then I need to try harder to decipher Ram's posts and give him more credit.

Good luck, A.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
AW, CHICK! - WE REALLY DO HAVE TO QUIT MEETING LIKE THIS - FOLKS WILL START TO TALK!

Can't touch it with a ten foot pole can you, Bill?

Can't quote everything semi said that a)made me laugh and b)I agree with, but...."What semi said"

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

Yep, and Ram is yanking his chain half the time.

Then I need to try harder to decipher Ram's posts and give him more credit.

It helps to have about half a fifth under your belt.

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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

NO, JUST THE FEW LIKE YOU, MY "FISHY" FRIEND -- WHO COME LOOKING FOR A FIGHT! SORRY, CAN'T ACCOMMODATE YOU! GOD BLESS!

HEY.. wait.. i thought *I* was fish?
or was i deep?
need to get your assumed alises staight bill.
you're forgetting who was who.
senile old goat.

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
I guess in Gray's eyes everyone on the forum with the exception of Ram are liberal leftist atheists.

Yep, and Ram is yanking his chain half the time.

Then I need to try harder to decipher Ram's posts and give him more credit.

It helps to have about half a fifth under your belt.

I have suspected such to be the case!

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
A few?

Please name those on this forum that you find are NOT atheist, new age, or liberal. Who is NOT misguided, in your opinion?

Don't hold your breath while waiting for an answer, Crusty. He can't name any, except possibly ram.

No, if he pays close enough attention, Rram won't pass muster as a conservative Christian, and will therefore be on Bill's very long list of those of us destined for Hell.

An all-knowing god would never allow Himself to be stuck alone with Gray for all eternity. Therefore, _________ [fill in the blank]

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Originally posted by A. Robustus:
An all-knowing god would never allow Himself to be stuck alone with Gray for all eternity. Therefore, _________ [fill in the blank]

Hi my Fishy Friend,

Not to worry! We will have lots of company -- billions of saints living eternally in the presence of God.

If I were you, I would make reservations TODAY on the Glory Train -- we never know which breath will be our last one. I would hate to see you have to say, "Oops! I blew it! I waited too long and now I am on that slippery slope!"

Truthfully, I would love to have you join all of us in heaven. Think about it.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Don't hold your breath while waiting for an answer, Crusty. He can't name any, except possibly ram.

Oh but wait, "Had Enough" thinks Bill is the cat's meow. As a matter of fact, if I didn't know better I would be tempted to think old Bill created a character that would "join" this forum to defend him.

As Bill himself would say, "Hmm...you think?"

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Originally posted by O No!:

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Don't hold your breath while waiting for an answer, Crusty. He can't name any, except possibly ram.

Oh but wait, "Had Enough" thinks Bill is the cat's meow. As a matter of fact, if I didn't know better I would be tempted to think old Bill created a character that would "join" this forum to defend him. As Bill himself would say, "Hmm...you think?"