Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Aparantly Boner dosen't give a damm . http://www.addictinginfo.org/2...-back-from-vacation/
jmmg, if house R's were to do that, they would be neglecting one of the major responsibilities they have been given by the Constitution, not that they care about the Constitution, they just hate Obama and any thing he tries to do .
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Congress is scattered all over the world. It would take days to gather them back to DC. If, its of such importance, then, Reid should call the Senate back immediately and start the debate. By then, the House would be back anyway. It would be best for the Republicans to simply withhold their vote and let the Dems settle the mess and deliver the results to Obama. Just heard Obama say it didn't matter if the delay was one day, one week, or one month. So, if it doesn't matter to him, why should anyone else run around as if it mattered.
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Then why was Boner demanding immediate reports to Congress from Obama. If it can wait, then it can wait.
Frankly, I once more state I hope we don't intervene. Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait/Iraq 1, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq 2 . Other than making a bunch of war contractors filthy rich, what did the United States actually gain from these experiences ? (Oh, and I almost forgot that little island that Reagan invaded )
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Korea was justified. South Korea is a democracy, wealth and prosperous. The north is starving and lead by a succession of megalomaniacs. Afghanistan was necessary to dislodge al Qaeda. The Talib were given a chance to kick them out or turn them over. They refused and suffered. the consequences. As a participant, I wish the war in Viet Nam had concluded differently. Kicking the Iraqis out of Kuwait was necessary.
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we have not fought a "war" ( I use quotes because none were declared ) since WWll to win it.
We nowdays just fight for parity or whatever .
I believe you should not fight unless you intend to win , and then get Congress to declare WAR and then fight to win it. Do whatever it takes, even if it means killing all the men and selling the women and children into slavery. Fight to win.
None of the "conflicts" I listed above were ever fought to "win" , hell, even the "wars" in Bush's beloved Iraq , we rebuilt their roads, schools , and hospitals, and gave the people of Iraq free health care, and not all that much different in the "war" Bush forget in Afghanistan.
We need to be rebuilding our own infrastructure here, in this country. It's no wonder the rest of the industrialized world does so much more for their own citizens, like assuring they have health care. They ain't giving free health care to Iraq, Afghanistan and no telling what other places.
We spend our wealth and blood on war, other places spend their wealth on building their own countries and on families.